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     | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 04:00 am Any Advice please I really need one. I am a somali sister who really Confuse about her Futre. You see guys I guess I have Big problem...One problem that I can,t scape from, One problem which is Rulling mylife, One problem that I can,t relate 4 any Somali person specially whit the GUYS, That problem is (Tribe) I hate any one who is Triblist, any one who talk about Tribe, any one who think he/she is better than any one else cuz of his/her tribe...Infact I don,t hate Tribe but I do feel sick if any one talk about it...So Guys I want know if I can ever find, A Somali Guy...who is happy who he is not cuz his TRibe? any one who think what he do he do it Himself and his fammily, but not Tribe. Can I ever find a Somali Guy who have no Tribe basicly? do any one feel the way I feel about Tribe? or I do need help? Btw I don,t hate my Tribe and I don,t want any one to hate his/her Tribe....but what I hate using it....I hate putting some one down cuz his Tribe or thinking some one better cuz of his/her tribe....I am really sick of those cheap, ignorence, no base thoughts which our ppl suffer. Thanks all 4 the time... and Advice needed.....is it only me who feels this way....or is there some of u who feels the same? hope is not only me! peace
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 05:53 am confused girl as michael jackson says;you are not alone. unfortunately this problem is present in our society,my advice to you is go for the younger guys(early 20's-early 30's),they tend to be more liberal than the older folks who crave tribalism! whatever floats your boat,just keep in mind they are plenty of non-tribalist decent somali guys out there.
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 07:42 am If you dont pay attention you will feel much better, trying to correct people or critizing will only get you in trouble......Even those of us who think themselves as non-clanist sometimes give the subject (clanism) way too much credit. time will eradicate tribilism, not you or me.
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 07:49 am confused: It seems I overlooked your question, sorry bout that. You maybe able to find such a guy, but might take you forever finding him.. try the easier way, advice your next prospect how you feel about tribalthing, maybe you can teach him to be neutral about it.
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 08:01 am Walaalo you are trying to fight something that is a fabric of the somali culture. Remove the tribism and you will unwind the somalian nation back into a mass of formless thread. walaalo the tribes are not the problem infact i was informed that it aids us in ways that only an expert should enter into greater detail. How would you know not to marry your brother if your father has had many wifes around the world??? Don't excuse the behaviour of our people by blaming something that is nothing more then a social tool. Our people need to grow and develop beyond this level of complacency that seems to have mutated into an art and a social topic for the young. Start with yourself and live your life as a clean and an upright person who contributes to your society, which/where ever that may be... Nabadgelyo
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 09:49 am looooooooooL@Farax Thanks 4 the advice...but I must say that, the Triblism our ppl suffering have no age....infact some ppl I know teach their children as soon as they can talk...what is worst they feel proud of it.....Wallaahay I am not lying, when I go to some of my friends Families...Their children ask ppl what is your Tribe? and u know what....when ever they say that I do really feel SAD....cuz this disease have to stay 4 ever whit them......what worries me.......even if I find a Guy who feels same way as me...........which is unlikely...how can I protect my children? do I have to move to an Island? I am stil confuze! Sharmaarke Sure I will tray may best to find some one who feels same way as me......but what is I find HIM....how can any one scape from the sick society? how can we bring a children whitout Trible disease? I guess I am asking too much.....Cuz deep down I know may Ideal way of life......don,t exist our Society......I need Society whit no TRIBE! can we reach that Society one day? can our children reach that one day? can some one get Cridet what he/she deserves whit out TRibe? only God knows..... but if we don,t tray how can we ever reach that? it seems unlikely! Kamaldiin. Believe me I did tray to live may life as clean as posible when it cames to Clan and Tribe...The things you don,t understand, Tribe takes a great deal about Somali behaviour....You think I should have Care if Tribe don,t destroy our Land and ppl? if we use Tribe just by name and to keep our ROOTS as Allah (swt)said.......it would not have bother me br......but we don,t and that is why,it is creates a lot of unhappiness and unhealthy Society....and I don,t want that for myself or my Children......I will do any thing to protect them.......but my Question is can I ever Reach that DREAM? if yes how? Peace all
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 03:24 pm You know what i hate? i hate tribe and what i hate more is the person who treat me specail cause of been same tribe with him i cant stand that but what can i do is the way of somali people this years you not alone confuze
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 10:56 pm confusedgirl you are good thinker and we need ppl like in our sociaty and you are right about everthing you said about our ppl usaing tribensm wronglly , i personally don't use it and it would be nice if everyone was thinking like you but the fact is that there are so many arogant ppl in our sociaty and in my opinion and remember this is my opinion god knows what will happen i think it will not end untill this genaration are all dead onlly that time we my have chance and mybe the next generation my use it like you said ppl are teaching there children now and that is sad really and think a wise person would not do that after knowing what usaing tribe had done to our country. as for you sis i hope you find nice person who thinks like you and if you don't try other ppl who are not somalia . thanks all.
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| | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 06:17 am LoverBoy Yes I also don,t like some one treats me better than my friends becouse I am same tribe as them...but don,t you think if we just eccept what the Society belives, we will never go no where...I mean the whole point of Education is to learn wrong from right and we know that Clan system is Wrong for our ppl.....so if you are Educate person and you know that Society teaching is Wrong..... do you stil have to Follow the Society? I don,t think so......if our Believes base the Rootless Society like Triblism.....then Lets Follow the Other Rootless Societies like the KAAFIR one! well you may say but we are a MUslims....I will say to you then Stop being Triblism becouse, it has no Base in ISLAM.....infact is was the reason Islam being Introduced,to Stop those Ignorent ARABS, at that time...who their live was based one Clan is better than the other.....it was to teach all HUman being are the same and the only difference is what they make of themselves.....if Allah(swt)says that who are you to say Differently? I am stil confuze! Hanad Thanks br for understanding my Views....and your advice is well taken... I really feel so strongly this is where all our Problems coming from......I also believe so long as Clan system exis our Land it will never got peace....You see Br .....Our ppl can,t even get a Healthy atmostphere in here, althought they are so far a way from Home....This is a disease....becouse when you sick no matter where you go that sickness is whit you......unless ofcourse you got the Medication to Control your Condition..LOL that is how I hate TRiblism....You see the SAD thing is, this disease can spread easily you can pass to your Children.....their ennocend Minds can be rule by trouble disease which you have no Control of...yet No one knows how our ppl suffering.....I laugh when ppl talk about the future of Somaliya.......yet they don,t recognise the Problems.....deal whit problem b4 you look 4 the solution.....this is my Opinion.....I could be very Individual......but deap down when I see ppl who are suffering....or being treated in a cruel maners cuz of there TRibe..............it really make me so angry.....infact it hurts......so that is why I feel May be just may be........I am the only one who feels that way.....But the Only reason I open this Discution was......what Can we do about it? does the Society make the ppl or the ppl make the Society? if other ppl can change the World and can get rid of their Dark Societies...........why can,t we? why we have to Eccept the bad poibts that, our Society Believe? I mean the Ignorent Believes? only God knows........but I am stil Confuze! peace
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| | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 12:39 pm Sis Listen, I do have much more problems whit Tribe things, it had happenned to me In real life experience. The only thing I do is, I stay a way narrow minded people who think, that Clan life is the only life. It is sad our people can,t understand, so my advice to you do what you have to do whit your life, and ignore those Clan •••• dogs they are loosers.
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| | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 02:34 pm DONT HATE ON TRIBES HATE ON YOUR CONFUSED BRAIN
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| | Friday, March 09, 2001 - 12:55 am lolllllll@CONFUZE gIRL YOU THINK IT IS ONLY YOU WHO IS CONFUSE? YOU NEED TO HAVE A LOOK YOUR SIDES gIRL, TELL ME WHAT DO YOU SEE? tHE SOMALI SOCIETY CALL CONFUSEsOCIETY. SO HONEY EITHER GO AND FIT TO THE OTHER sOCIETIES OR ECCEP US. IS THAT fAIR?
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| | Monday, March 12, 2001 - 07:22 am Guys, don,t you think that Triblism....is the Enamy of our Nation? and until we kill Tribe & Clan society........we will never be able to go forward? why our Thoughts have base by Clan? is there any SOMALi person who is Brave Enough.....who will stand up and say....hey I am a PERSON....I am Individual......I am a Muslim....then I am Somali....I am HUmanbeing? cuz that is All I am.....stil Confuze....lol.....peace
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| | Monday, March 12, 2001 - 07:44 am I am isaac if your people killed mine then... i would be stupid to ignore history... without roots you are notheing... that is the bottom line...what society are you trying to save? and why? what makes you an expert politician?
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| | Monday, March 12, 2001 - 01:35 pm the bad think about tirbe is it never stops,that guy said he is isaaq, and then another one says he sub-tribe of isaaq, then it goes down, all the way it seperates the cousin and the familty with two mother and one father. it is sick, it never ends. and the things it is going to be there forever. i think some people think it is a insurance policy but it is a destruction policy. so confused girl that is the sorry punch of society we are. and u know what everone u try to discuss with it will tell u that hey do not beleive in that sort of a thing, then they do practice it. so go figure
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| | Tuesday, March 13, 2001 - 04:26 pm ConfuzG you are not confused or misguided , you absolute correct ,,,your views are well beyond the disturbance nature of Somali behavior of tribalism ,your wisdom or common sense is above the average Somali's how they perceive current crisis of Somalia ..and you know what you are very strong person , may Allah guide you all the way the right future ,, if all the young Somali ladies think that way ..the future mothers of Somali children ..may be we could lives peaceful and dignity our beloved Country ..look what We somali's are contributed to the world communities famine ,horrible pictures of killing ,destruction of whole nation which the world communities muslims and non-muslims wonder why why why ,,but we all Somali's know 'Devil tribal' spirit of evil followers ....even in islam says ''Wajacaluu Qabaa'ilukum litacrifuu''...my dear sister you are not confused you are full aware what Clanism done to our societies ...nothing wrong marrying Somali muslim man ,,they will have good mother and good teacher...thank you
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| | Wednesday, March 14, 2001 - 07:01 pm ConfuzeGIRL you need help ,xafid qabiilka you will be okay
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| | Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 04:56 am LOL@careless Sure, you may be isaaC as u call it. But tell me what r u first? Male/Female?muslim/non-believer? what I am traying to say is....there is many more things in life....that you can discribe yourself.....why have to be Tribe? the Minute you discribe yourself as a Clanism....That minute your whole personal Chracteristic dispear...hwy? cuz ppl our Society don,t except you as INDIVIDUAL...they Expect you to behave like your TRIbe why? to think liKE your Tribe? what Tribe....not only That ppl judge you as your TRIBE...assuming if you that TRibe..then you must think like THEM....it is all UNFAIRNESS...what Tribe? my Argument is....we r Individual FIRST and Formost.OKKK....so if any one can Judge me as INDIVIDUAL...then will understand me as real me.....as Humanbeing...not as any TRIBE...this what bothers me...Cuz I AM ME! LOl@Spike...insurence policy. Listen br, it is True that ppl seems to missnderstand this whole subject about Tribe/Clan things....Knowing your Clan or even subClam is not CRIME, but what is Really Crime, Commiting all this Cruptions that happens,it may seems imposible one day we became TRIBLESS ppl.....or atleast ppl who don,t brain washed by Ignorence WarLords....who have sarted this Clan disease at First place.....if ppl read their HISTORY and understand the Reasons.why Clan was Importand In our LAnd before.....then only then, they may understand.... it was all WAR nothing But WAR.....it was Power Hungry Individuals.....who wanted Rule those Ignorent ppl at that Time....and you know what? they secussed...but what makes me Confuse...why we have to stil Follow their Foot Steps? why is that is unthinable our Society to change things in a better way? why we have follow whit out questions? am I just Confuse?.... Governo What can I say... you are such sweet,thank you br for understanding my POINTs incouraging me more. .....But this is not only me, it is also about our Nation...I mean I have been witness a lot of distructions that Evil Clanism done to my ppl....and being Honest, although I am worry about my Futre..... Mine is simmple Compare what our Society going tthrough...what also worries me how, no one seems to undersands, what this Evil practice have done in the Past and it will do it again as long as we follow it....I basicly want understand why choose to live unhappy atmostphere? We live this World very short Time Allah (swt) said that.....why not use this time our Mind whit useful things? why not teach our Children...in ways they can be useful to themselves and Society?why teach them hate and Clan? I mean I know non of US have the all answers...but I believe we have a MINDS to question all those NOnsense going on our Society...when you Question things you can then search the posible Solutions.... one more thing....is there somali Muslim Man who don,t believe Tribe? never heard of it!
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| | Friday, March 16, 2001 - 07:20 am ConfuseGirl After all this I hope you are not confuse any more, or are you?
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| | Saturday, March 17, 2001 - 10:51 am bla bla bla somali pple goin no where
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