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     | Unrecorded Date Learn how to write in english guys, and drop this barbaric and uncivilised language.
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| | Unrecorded Date USA. HADAAD ENGLISH TAHAY SOOMAALI BAAN NAHAY, HADII LAGU DUUFSADAYNA HADAL MAMAUDNIN.
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| | Unrecorded Date To USA we proud to write this barbaric language. If you lost your Identity you are in deep ••••.
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| | Unrecorded Date TO USA@badow/lagaroone •••• you, kiss my ass.
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| | Unrecorded Date I hope you would stop reinforcing the this stereotype whoever you are whether female or male.I am surprised to see us abusing each other through the net. However I would have to say disscusing how to write the perfect English is not an issue for a lot of somalis (just in case you did not know that) So if I were you I would come up with a topic with more depth and benefical for our society and the development of our culture. However I can also understand what you mean by barbaric language. If I have got it right you properly mean The proper standard English. But What you seem to have missed here is that most Somali people have not been to an English education system so they find it hard to express themselves in this form of language. Therefor they use the language picked from movies and some rap songs. So if I were you I would concider what topics I come up with before hand.
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| | Unrecorded Date ahmed kismaio. ciao,nimo waa mahadsantahay adaa u buuxiyey haduu wax fahmayo,laakin odaygan waxaan u maleynaa in uu hadda soo galey qurbaha, laakin qurbaha waa lagaaga soo horreyey. waxbarashana waa laggaga horreyey. laakin ma ilowdey halkan in ay tahay the home of somalis. somalinet........ hadabo soomalida waxaad heleysaa kuwa kuu turjumo chinese hadaad dooneyso. mr learner dont forget your background. ahmedkismaio e mail. dimoh@usa.net
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| | Unrecorded Date like the brother said if you are enlish we are somalis just because we are in enland it does not mean we are english, get that you fick head.
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| | Unrecorded Date He guys, This is the man called USA, you guys are talking somali language and somali culture, i myself somali but i am djiboutian, born and raised in my beautiful djibouti, the land of rule of law not the land of warlords. Anyhow my point is despite our differences we are all somalis but wisely opposite. Somalis are today a nation about to die a suicidale nation, everything you earned in past is gone today, you may live in canada, in the states or elswhere in the world. Your only option is to asimilate in the society that you live. somalia is a country without structure and legitimate gov't, the only anarchy area on earth, the home of aidid, ali mahdi, abdillahi yusuf, egal etc... how can you allowed your beloved country ruled by those seffish warlords, don't you have at lease a litle bite of patriotism and you want protect the somali language, it cannot protected in the gurbaha, the best place is at home. For those in the gurbaha. According to the statiscs, an immigrant is a an immigrant only for one generation, the second genation will by any means assimilated in the that society, look at north africans in france, where are they today, lost and disorganised. The backs in north america and the first generation of indians in the united kingdom, history cannot be twisted, it is there for you and study carefully and after that choose assimilation or go back home and fight against your own warlords
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| | Unrecorded Date Helleo UsA I am surprised at your comments whcih suggest to that you are aiming for the asimilation of becoming an American which shows to me the difference between Djiboubtians and the people from Somalia. Well just in case you did not allready know this we are not about to become the people of these countries we live in even if our children do, and as far as our children are concerned we don't care if they want to make these counties their homes. However what I would like to say is, that I have been to Djiboubi a year ago and I would not call that place home brother. Mainly because it is the worst place on earth and I am sure you know what I am talking about(all that sewage). After my visit I went to Somalia for the first time in my life, and despite the signs of war destroyed country, it is the most clean and fresh place on earth. So if I were you I would not even mention Somalia and DJoubti in the same sentence. As far as our culture goes don't try and put us in the same categorie as most of the immigrants in USA and Europe, Somalis are very proud people who would not take asmiliation as an option in the few coming years. By the way for argument's sake Asians in England are the most culturally aware people on earth and the reason I know this is because I live there. They still have arranged marriages, they still wear traditional clothes, and still go to the temple for worshiping. (So that was a bad example to use). Another thing you are obviouly unaware of the political situation in your so called home land but let me tell you this much, Djibouti is not better then any other African country, with its coraption and unjustice. But just because you did not have a war yet, does not make you so greater or any better then the rest us So if I were you I would watch the space and listen to the BBC.
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| | Unrecorded Date Salam, Excuse me Mister USA, you have stated that you are Djiboutian,by definition you are not Somali so one question:WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING IN SOMALINET? Instead of puzzling your small mind with Somali problems I suggest you try to look at your own country and its problems. p.s. I am not even talking about the thousands of French men who f--k your women; and the millions of illegitmate children!!!!!! Peace to all my SOMALI brothers/sisters
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| | Unrecorded Date To idil I would like to say! that you need to learn how to read the words that are writen by USA instead of making comments sis/bro what ever you are!Because you would understand more that you think. peace out !!!
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| | Unrecorded Date heeeey people ..creatures of Allah ! I was born and raised in Djibouti but originally from somali...I dont call myself a djibouti but I would defend both countries as I love them both and would not allow any1 insulting my two beautiful countries, regardless of any problems they had politically or socially cuz I believe what happen was meant to happpen by Allah's sake and some ppl who just woked up one morning and just said I wanna be a president But !!!! I believe that am fortunate to have two countries And like to say one thing why compare two countries who in reality doesn't match .....I mean somali and Djibouti are regarded as 2 different countries and every country has its own problem ..and by the way and after all we are somalis, Muslim , same culture ...we all eat laaxox...lol..mmmmmm ! and Idil I dont know hat the hell you are talking about women being dissed by french guys..... I think every1 makes a mistake ....and I am sure that we would find dirty womens in everywhere south or north of somali So dont go there walaal /abaayo/ think ppl and dont separate yourself as you are already separate in guurbaha find yourself and unite for Allah sake instead of talking such thing Waar maxaa ku dhacaay somalia iyo dadkii ba? peace
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| | Unrecorded Date Its me again Danger I agree with u 100 % that 's one of the reasons why Somalis dont get on cuz they dont listen but jump to wrong conclusions Ax what a pity
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| | Unrecorded Date To Nimo. Bonjour la somalienne. It is true that djibouti is no better than any african country, but i will say that djibouti is better than somalia in terms of governing, look at your so-caled beloved country, is ruled by warlords, there's no rule of law not enven rule of morale, and most of all the brillants and the so-called somali intellectuals are working abroad for arabs, british, canadians, americans, scandinavians etc... What about your own poor people, in refugee camps, getting raped and abused by kenyans and ethiopians. Sister stop this b.s and hypocrisie. Djibouti may not be the best place on earth but at lease we have a governemnt, institutions, school, an army that protection us from somali warlords, a currency, an international relation with other nations and most of all people dedicated for advancement, and respected as existing nation. In terms of assimiltion I presently live in Montreal quebec but usally travel to ottawa and other part in canada even the usa, i found out that somali refugee are the poorest of the poorest and as we all know if you are poor in this hemisphere the outcome is really bad, somalis are considered to be the scums, the welfare cheaters and soon we will see prostutions and other forms of degradation, i fell sorry for the big brothers and sisters who suppose to be our role models, last night a friend of mine called me from france and was telling me that the situation is worst in england. All those thing combined and end is dark, assimilation for the diaspora, deseases and war for the ones at so-called home, destruction for the environment, humilation abroad. No one will ever want to go back because they think a ghost live in somalia and some of them think that somalia is cursed by Allah along the somalis. I thank our leader's who refuses back in the 60e for unification, i thank them so much because we are better this way. That's why you need to assimilate yourself in the beautiful country that you are living now with jobs good housing and better living standard, or be patriotic and go back home with ak-47 and fight for your homeland, or better way sell it to the jew or americains, or us djiboutians, will'l take of it, while you enternaining yourselfs that tommorow will be a better day. .................................................... FOR IDIL you said "...p.s. I am not even talking about the thousands of French men who f--k your women; and the millions of illegitmate children!!!!!! " How many somali bitch's and lesbians or fag's living abroad and getting f..k by arabs, ethiopians, black niggroes, white europeans etc...? The number of somal illegitimate is inccountable. The time of french rule is over and the land belong to us somali djiboutian, afar djiboutian, arab and mixte djiboutians, we will protected and fight against you beloved warlords. We all know you now and cannot play the goody goody anymore, all you care want is piece of bread and a bottle of beer and will be well off for at lease couple of days. In canada we call them CHEAP AND CLEAN AT SIXTEEN YEARS OLD AND FAT, CHEAP AND UGLY AT TWENTY YEARS OLD. POUR MAINTENANT JE TE DIRAI PEACE OR PAIX IN FRENCH
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| | Unrecorded Date ow my god, ya'll should hear urselves...what'z dis issue about djaboutianz and somaliz???? i mean speakin' as a somali...i dont got nothing against djaboutianz okay..however, i do have something against what USA said...in ur earlier messages, u mentioned some "warlords" that we shouldnt be following..well, im just here to tell u that ur information aint that correct..next time u want to start a chat intellectually..u need to do some research...second of all, i "think" <and im not speakin for every1 here> that the reason djaboutianz are lookin "down" at us is cuz they truly believe they are livin a higher life style than us..and SOMALIA is lookin down at djabouti cuz they believe they've adapted to the french lifestyle..so both sides are at fault..personally when i visit the djabouti chat line....when i tell some peepz am somali..they say offensive stuff..we need to move beyond that..and act like neighborz suppose to u know..cuz we got the same rootz, same people!!!! ~Be Peace~ ps: and all this sh!t about somali n djabouti women should stop cuz ya'll got MOTHERZ AND SISTAZ...we dont need fightin amongst ourselves..that'll only make us weaker than everyone else....REPRESENT Y'ALL...n better yet...RESPECT!
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| | Unrecorded Date Hi USA I can not even contabilate with your comments any more but I am going to anwere your personal arguments against me.As for the rest of the topic I am sorry but I have some decensy and respect for the motherhood of Africa and its women. I don't know about you but I could not put myself in the position of insulting African men after all they are fathers and brothers to famillies, they can be (Sheeks) and respected members of families, so at the end of the day despite everything I have some respect for the diversity of societies and their misfortures (If what you say about somali women is true). But what I am going to answere to you for is the disrespct you have inflicted on my nation, even thought we are a nation like any other nation were faults and misfortues are concerned. However the comparisons you have used on the bases of argument need to be more stronger then that, since they are all based on collected and elaborated facts of war torn country. But what you would have known if you listen to the evening news and the 'New African' paper (which gives alternative news unlike most of the ideologicaly biased, and more forwarded then backwarded news of Africa as the missery countinent making through their threshold). You would know that having a government who supresses its nation's liberty and freedom of speech, a country which still recieves aids from its colonist, a country which has a system based on who you know rather then what you can do intelecgualy, a country which does not have one form of productivity but depends on exports from the developed world is not much better then a war torn country who's nation would not except repression from a number of people who work on the bases of the colonial minds. A group of people who are hand picked by the Western capitalists. As for understandingand respecting of different cultures it seems like many Africans you don't have any respect for your brothers. But then what is new that is what we are like colonial minded and corrapted. At least even if the white people think that we are below their level they are discret about it. You can tell from the number of nationalities who live in their countries, and yet they have the decency to keep personal believes to themselves. Tell me, how many Somalis live in you so called home, and how are thier standards of living. Even though your government does not give them anything out of their pocket, they still manage to deposite some of the United Nations Aids provided for the survival of these people into their Swiss banks, like our other African neoghbours you have mentioned. As far as our assimaltion goes you need to read a bit more brother cause I can tell you have not at the moment.This is a refference book for your empty shelf (Amy Tang: The Joy Luck Club)if you read this book and a few more researches by sociologsts both in the USA and the UK into ethnic minorties you would find that assimilation is one of those invented words that is not based on any facts or testable theories. For it has never happened yet. Yes people have attempted the idea but being born from a nation is somthing you can't wipe out of a person by assimilating, that is how we are as human beings. You can never eliminate you ethnical race or assimilate into a nation you are not born into. Yes you can eat their food, you can get close to them as much as like and even live similar live styles as them, but you will always remain your race no matter what. As an example look into the African Americans in the USA, some of them still practise the small religons in Africa despite the fact they have been in the USA for so long. So as a word of advice please let us be a bit more mature and change this topic since it will not neither entertaing nor educating us in any form or sort.
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| | Unrecorded Date Hi USA I can not even contabilate with your comments any more but I am going to anwere your personal arguments against me.As for the rest of the topic I am sorry but I have some decensy and respect for the motherhood of Africa and its women. I don't know about you but I could not put myself in the position of insulting African men after all they are fathers and brothers to famillies, they can be (Sheeks) and respected members of families, so at the end of the day despite everything I have some respect for the diversity of societies and their misfortures (If what you say about somali women is true). But what I am going to answere to you for is the disrespct you have inflicted on my nation, even thought we are a nation like any other nation were faults and misfortues are concerned. However the comparisons you have used on the bases of argument need to be more stronger then that, since they are all based on collected and elaborated facts of war torn country. But what you would have known if you listen to the evening news and the 'New African' paper (which gives alternative news unlike most of the ideologicaly biased, and more forwarded then backwarded news of Africa as the missery countinent making through their threshold). You would know that having a government who supresses its nation's liberty and freedom of speech, a country which still recieves aids from its colonist, a country which has a system based on who you know rather then what you can do intelecgualy, a country which does not have one form of productivity but depends on exports from the developed world is not much better then a war torn country who's nation would not except repression from a number of people who work on the bases of the colonial minds. A group of people who are hand picked by the Western capitalists. As for understandingand respecting of different cultures it seems like many Africans you don't have any respect for your brothers. But then what is new that is what we are like colonial minded and corrapted. At least even if the white people think that we are below their level they are discret about it. You can tell from the number of nationalities who live in their countries, and yet they have the decency to keep personal believes to themselves. Tell me, how many Somalis live in you so called home, and how are thier standards of living. Even though your government does not give them anything out of their pocket, they still manage to deposite some of the United Nations Aids provided for the survival of these people into their Swiss banks, like our other African neoghbours you have mentioned. As far as our assimaltion goes you need to read a bit more brother cause I can tell you have not at the moment.This is a refference book for your empty shelf (Amy Tang: The Joy Luck Club)if you read this book and a few more researches by sociologsts both in the USA and the UK into ethnic minorties you would find that assimilation is one of those invented words that is not based on any facts or testable theories. For it has never happened yet. Yes people have attempted the idea but being born from a nation is somthing you can't wipe out of a person by assimilating, that is how we are as human beings. You can never eliminate you ethnical race or assimilate into a nation you are not born into. Yes you can eat their food, you can get close to them as much as like and even live similar live styles as them, but you will always remain your race no matter what. As an example look into the African Americans in the USA, some of them still practise the small religons in Africa despite the fact they have been in the USA for so long. So as a word of advice please let us be a bit more mature and change this topic since it is not neither entertaing nor educating us in any form or sort.
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| | Unrecorded Date To all somalis NIMO IDIL MISS X usa fucker somalilsnd ali ahmed kismayo why and all the anonymous Destructive, assimilation, desperation, depression, lost of the land, mixture with other races, appearance of gays and lesbians, lost of the language, atheism, conversion into other religions. What a desaster for this selfdestuctive society, the futur is not bright and the prospect extremely dark. My brother and sister's choose assimilation is better that way, forget somalia you are not the only race that desapear in the face of the earth, studie the babylonians, check the romans, the egyptians despite their greatness and superiority, where are they today? we don't even know their language. Brother's and sister's, we possese all the caracteristiques of a lost nation. This is the reality, is all real not a hollywood movie. That' yor legacy on earth PAIX IN FRENCH PEACE IN ENGLISH NABAD IN SOMALI
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| | Unrecorded Date To all somalis NIMO IDIL MISS X usa fucker somalilsnd ali ahmed kismayo why and all the anonymous Destructive, assimilation, desperation, depression, lost of the land, mixture with other races, appearance of gays and lesbians, lost of the language, atheism, conversion into other religions. What a desaster for this selfdestuctive society, the futur is not bright and the prospect extremely dark. My brother and sister's choose assimilation is better that way, forget somalia you are not the only race that desapear in the face of the earth, studie the babylonians, check the romans, the egyptians despite their greatness and superiority, where are they today? we don't even know their language. Brother's and sister's, you possese all the caracteristiques of a lost nation. This is the reality, is real not a hollywood movie. That' yor legacy on earth PAIX IN FRENCH PEACE IN ENGLISH NABAD IN SOMALI
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| | Unrecorded Date To Nimo Can i get your personal email, so i will make my point very clear, and let me know if you write and read french. peace
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| | Unrecorded Date SALAAMU CALAYKUM It's amazing that i thought All somalians where the same, those who live in kenya, djabouti, or somalia itself. I thought that we have originated from one route, we believe in one god, and I guess we eat the same food, so what's the matter. I mean are we gonna reject each other just because, some waxaa kugumaystay talyaani, or fransiis, or kenyaan................... I think denying each other, isn't the way to go, no matter if ur djaboutian, Sujuwi, or somali, u all equal to SOMALI, and frankly, u are what u consider the other to be. peace
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| | Unrecorded Date hi all. to nimo and idil dear sisters althogh i agree with ur comments and usgeesions, i would like to say one thing to u sisters. some times when u meat people like USA it makes u wonder, why? how? could he/ she say that, but to be honest i have seen some people form DJIBOUTI and they say worst things then that so sisters don't waste ur time and energy on him. somalia is somalia, and djibouti is djibouti. and they can't be compared.
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| | Unrecorded Date To alex it is true somalia is somalia and djibouti is djibouti and both are difrent in terms of country and history, but there's reality that you cannot escape from, and that reality is the fact that somalis all over the world chooses to fleed the country and never go back, most of them are happy to live in other country and work for other nations while their own people are living in hell. I have been surfing the net and not seein or heard any somali talking for the interest of somali people in general, is that patriotioc, living the country in the hands of warlords, how can you sleep well at night when your beloved birth country is run by a bunch of outlaws. You guys are jokers, you don't have a little bit of blood, all of you are happy to be in the white land and no sensation whatsoever about the destructions of your people. Any somali that you talk to back home wants to live the country, while those living in western society are in complete illusions, day dreaming and no plan of recapituation, and after ten years or more the populations will decline drastically, what a sad storie about people in the edge of complete colapse, what sad storie about young people with no hope other than complete assimilation, what sad story about people that claim extremely proud. If allot of djibouti thinh that way is because we see the problem closely than any other people on earth, we are somalis like you but ashamed, all that because of you guys. Look at the net and surf all you will not 2 somalis talking about or for somalia, and with that you can draw a conclusion, which is the land is in mercy of warlord. May Allah have a mercy in soul. USA
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| | Unrecorded Date TO USA How much somalia worth today, it is expensive? Because i know an american company who wants buy a vacant land for their toxic waste. Their plan is to destroy first the savages that lives there and use the land for their own purpose. .......how about that USA, isn't good deal**** ahahahahahahahahahahah.................
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| | Unrecorded Date HI USA (By the way change the name please because I am sure Americans would toast you if they saw a nigger ( as they reffer to us) using their name. Well, where shall I start? I don't even know anymore since it seems to me that we have gone into an ocean of arrguments. However It seems clear to me that you have not grasped most of my examples or information so I am left with no choice but to repeat myself "AGAIN" with a small information and the following refference Amy Tang (The Joy Luck Club) Please read this book, maybe it would open your eyes to some sort of facts. Now,I think what I should do is take this in a very simple form just to bring it down to your level. (No offence) Look at the word 'assismilation' up in the dictionary. If I am not wrong you would find that it means_ Being Similar. Now in your head I want you to think about this. What is similar? Obviously it does not have the same meaning as the word 'Same'. Since the same means equal in everyway. Now look into the meaning of similar.You would find that it means not exactly the same. I don't know if you have done Chemistry in school but I am going to use this as an example and I hope you would understand it.Read this on_ Carbon is an element of its own. When it reacts with other elements there is the formation of new compound with bits of Carbon property in it. However this does not mean that it is as complete or as unique as its orginal state. Now look into the word assimilation or similar and the hidden meaning behind this. It simply shows that like Carbon you would not be the same and unique as before but, but bits of your orginal self as well as bits from whoever you came into contact with. Now let us go into the psychological aspect of 'assimilation' and the agenda behind 'assimilation'. It simpliy means that your orginal state of being is not good enough so we want you to change. But even if you change you are not going to "one of us" (whites) but similar. Now if you have been with me so far dear MR USA you would understand my point which is lossing your identity just to become similar is the most disgraceful position any human being could put themselves into. I have been reading you argguments when I noticed an example you have used to support your case. A word of advice please finish reading the history books you read and never leave them unfinished. Another advice while reading I suggest you read between the lines (that is read the meaning behind the information given to you and try and understand who the author is benifiting or biasing against, after all the author is a human being with his/her points of views) I have also noticed that you have used evolved civilisations as a way of example, such as the Romans ans the Egyptians. Well in case you did no know this (and I am sure you didn't).These civilisations have not gone instict but evolved into the nations who live in those particular area of the world. I am sure if DNA tests were taken from the bones of the Egyptian ancestors and the present day Egyptians there would be similarity between their Genes. By the way I don't know if you are familiar with the term 'evolved' but it means moved on or changed over time. So the cultures and the civilisations of these people are still here. For example all the people around the medittrean such as Greece, Turkey and Italy are decendants of the Roman Empire and they have charateriztics of the Roman Empire as a common share. So like I said finish those history books. As far as discussing this issue through my e.mail is concerned I do not see the sense in leaving my e.mail in such a place where anyone could have an access to it. So no thank you but no. However if you leave yours I would be more then obliged to discuss as long as it is on a respectable terms and no offensive language is used. For the second part to your question 'No I do not speak or write French' Thank you . One colonial language is bad enough o corrupt the mind with their ideology. Thank you.
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| | Unrecorded Date SALAM, to all My bro/sis's I would like to say well SAID NIMO & alex!!!!!! I am SOOOOO PROUD that Somalia's future is in such good hands!!!!!!
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| | Unrecorded Date TO IDIL YOU ARE WELCOME SISTER, THE LAST THING WE NOW NEED IS PEOPLE PUTTING US DOWN. ESPCAILLY WHEN WE HAVE OTHER ISSUES TO DEAL WITH. BUT NO PROBLEM WE CAN HANDLE IT.
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| | Unrecorded Date To nimo I can see you are going very far away from the original subject by talking how human evolved through history and space, we can argued on that but is not necessary at this point. I did not said that romans and the babylonians history is dead but said that their identity is no longer original, so if i did understood you are saying that somali history will evolved through history and tomorrow we will became another people by losing our present identity and adopting the culture and religion of the majority. That's what we call assimilation, this people that we are living with are protected by institutions and constitutions, the existence of their language and religion is 100% guarantee, what about you nimo, you said and i quote "One colonial language is bad enough o corrupt the mind with their ideology. Thank you. " in other words you did subjugated yourself and accepted assimilation as a fact. You also said and i quote " It simply shows that like Carbon you would not be the same and unique as before but, but bits of your original self as well as bits from whoever you came into contact with. I am confused in this statement, indeed when you live in this society if you loss a bit of your original states of being it means allot in the western world, you cannot say lets compromise in terms of losing my identity, let me keep my language and loss my religion or vice versa, but in long terms you will loss much more including your personal originality and accept this fact simply because you don't have any other alternatives other than accepting the history, values, psychology of the people that you live with, unless you possess like jews strong and riche communities or influential and powerful origins or country like china. I don't really know sister your home country but that's the way it goes in north america, melting pot witch means forget where you came from and adopt our way of living, or as they say in america "loved or lived this america". Another thing, i see that you are very angry towards me, but what makes mad me and angry you is your hypocrisy, the fact you that are not even approaching the real problem, the somali issue, and please don't say that you are not somali, because your barbaric and anarchy philosophy is crossing all borders and affecting the peaceful somalis like those who lives in Kenya, Djibouti, Ethiopia etc... All you trying to do is covering the issue, you too afraid to talk about the real problem or your are extremely disconnected from this issue and as you advocating you are more into this western society. If you think you are protected the values and somali heritage think twice or more, because the history of this land is wide clear, there's no chemistry, only one is dominant and that is the rule of the majority as Charles Darwin and his theory of evolution describe. Physically you will produce beautiful babies by mixing yourself with other races but politically and economically you will be " cali besten" or "red indians"here in north america (hope you know the history of this people). That's why i told at the beginning, you need to build first your own home, organize your own people ( we will be on side), organise your own clan and reunite your own desperate people, fight with guns against your warlords and drop this non sense historic theories and demagogy fight for your freedom and regain the respect and dignity that you have lost in the horn of africa and in the world platform. The real question is, can nation and clan compatible to each to other? Will somalia ever survive and regain its sovereignty or As you all know your survival means allot to us, because we are the same family, My english is not as good yours but i hope u got my point, as you mention before we all got corrupted by one colonial power (no dispute one that) Peace USA
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| | Unrecorded Date TO USA WANNA BE Well I am being to loss my pateince and sanity with your ignorance at the moment. However I have got to make my last statement here and leave you to accumilate if you can have the capibilty or the capacity to do so. Since I am a student with dead lines to meet and essays to finish. So I am going to make a final point. I think there is a quite amount of miss understanding due to language here. When I used carbon as an example. I have also followed that with my personal quote " Lossing your identity just to become similar is the most disgracful position any human being could put themselves into" This means if we try to assimilate which is a non existing word (SINCE IT IS MADE UP BY THE COLONIAL SOCIEY TO MAKE US FEEL BETTER BUT DOES NOT HAVE ANY EXSISTING MEANING SINCE IT ONLY SUGGESTS BEING SIMILAR AND NOT THE SAME). Us Somalis can not make this choice since we know the importance of being unique. As for my suggestion to eveloution you have obvoiusly not grasped my comments but here I will go AGAIN. This was not in any way a suggestion to the exceptance of lossing our culture or orginallty but a to say that the soceities which have had eveloved, still have their distinctive cultural background. So please go to some English classes or get yourselve a dictionary. Now if that is clear so far let me get back to the issues of the topic you have you have reffered to as the "Red Indian" CORRECTION!!! It is politically incorrect to reffer them to this name. The are called "NATIVE AMERICANS". Sorry Mr USA you are living in the USA you must know and use the correct terminology. I am sure you don't know a few facts about these people but let me inlighten you. The native Americans are as good as instict.The few of them that are left have their orginal land taken away from them for example people of New york were taken to Navado and vise versa just to disperce them.They have the highest sucide and alchol problem in America.Thier religion and culture is turned into fashion acessories (as feather necklaces) Their sacre mountains have been defaced with carfings of American presidents. Now please do not compare us to these people. Go to Somalia and see the number of religious people there. Come to Europe and see the number of (Imaams) who spread the religion accross the Somali communities. If you do so you would see how much they out number the minorty who choice to live western life which you are reffering to. So please do not compare the "Native Americans" to Somalis. Native American are purposely supressed by the American government constantly. At least we don't have an invador doing this to us like the Native American. Did you know that the Native Americans have a genetic problem of not having the abilty to consume Alchol and the American goverment purposely makes sure that there large number of Alchol selling stores everywhere Native Americans live. Please read the papers and the social and political reports on this. Now you have indicated that you think Somalis do not have the strong cultures like the Chinesse and the Jews. But did you know the lenght of time it took these nations to over come years of starvation,unjustice,and major cultural revolution. Please look into the figures in the history books.You would see that these numbers are not a few years here and there but thousand of years. We have only had our civil war for the last 15 years please give us time to prove what we can be. Although I am sure there were pessimist like yurself who thought that the chinesse and the jews were never going to exsist any more at these times. So I am not surprised at your comments anymore. I suggest to you should stop looking into the last 10 years when China has build this economic power and the cold war has ceased. Comparing Somalia to this is like a drop in an occean. As for the Jews if you did not know it they have been trying to get gid of their Jewish names and heritage in order to be accepted by the majority. ( My tutor for media sociology is a Jew and her father changed his surname to collin rather then Cohans 30 years ago just to be accepted) The only reason why the Jewish community survived the tide is because of their women and the few religious members called the real followers of the Hasidim and the Rebe. This is another refference for you if you want to know more of this. Chaim Potok (My Name Is Asher Lev) By the way I was just wondering about this are you bored so that you could spare this amount of time or are you writing a paper on debates about assimilation or even a book. (Either way I am not going to be you resource of information any more) But I have to say this I don't think you have been reading or following most of the things I have been writing about for the last few weeks otherwise why would you be asking about whether I am Somali? Finally one thing to say- Doqonkii ku yeelaa waxuun lagu dabiibaaye dudumooyinkoo lala hadlaa damac ma yeeshaane Alla dooriyoow hadalku wuu kaaga darayaaye This is my last massage to you. People debate to get somwhere. But I know I am not going to get anywhere talking to a "Dundumo". As for barabaric lungage I suggest you look into the background and orgin of the word before using it.
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| | Unrecorded Date To Nimo My sister i think you are disconnected from the reality on somali issues, you are only trying to impress me by talking something that everyone who went to university knows, . you said in you last paragraphe "This is my last massage to you. People debate to get somwhere", but you are not debating, you are simply trying correcting and reviewing some my examples as if you are my teacher all that because of your ego. You are using warlord tactic by going all around the issue. I can now understand why somalis have hard time solving their own problems, most of your have the warlord mentality. Hope you wake up when another 2 innocent millions get killed by starvations & diseases all that because of the mentality and arrogance of many of you and clan leaders or as they called warlords. May the glorious help you in your struggle. Peace & love my sister. Sharmarke Sahal (my real name)
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| | Unrecorded Date Kula yaabi maayo ee waa kudayasho INDHO la'aaneed Howdy!you so far away, from da so called "reality" CiiseRooti Rootile(my real name)
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| | Unrecorded Date To USA I know you don't like the culture and the language of somalis, which you have called barbarec language. It was not so long time when my head teacher shouted at me and said. "You must support your fellow djobuti and tell them. One day they become your brothers not as french. What we found as result is you people who live in vancuouver at the expenses of those who surfer in somalia. When you do something stubid you claim you are somalia, when you want your school fees paid you claim as somali. Somali Language. This is our honour, it is not narrated from Shakespear or french writer. It is what our grand grand father/Mother made for us. Sorry if you can not achieve this honour, You will never get them just by reading english books or french. "I wish I could find Djobutian writer. There are view of them, but they change their names into french names cause no market for it. Because You guys have steriotype every thing must be "french name, branded in french style & language, made parisq , Adverised by french tv and you made them suffer. So you are really Diaporassee in your home country. So we do not have good government, but we can read our writers notes. Somali Landlord. In the eyes of what you have commented, we can not hate our homeland because warlordes doing this or that and we are not supporting of their negative side. We will make the change when ever possible. I warne you, do ever go there and say somali are sleeping " You are all underservelience and we will take you to court when ever you come to Xagaa. You would never be civilized because you can speak english/french. They will teach you how to live with your fellow Hooomesex and you call them civilised. Nimo Thanks you my golden girl. Don't worry about USA. He is keeping his head above the water and he can't get better life. In history had a chance for them but they liked take away from french rather than making for themself in the hard way and their children could have benefited. Take care somalis Baashi
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| | Unrecorded Date TO BAASHA Thanks brother, that is what I like to hear. Somali brothers standing up to this ignorant and arrogant person. Like I said I am not wasting my percious time on a wasted "dundumo". However I am glad that there are other human being from Somalia who could tell this person a few home thruths. GOOD LUCK BROTHER
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| | Unrecorded Date Hello, everyone As I read what PPl wrote here, it see to SOME of you have low-knowldge of work together. What somalia really needs it People work together, understand each other, being a nation is more like. There those like USA and those like nimo adn idl who wants to make a different. If we think about where we are going to be the next 5 to 10 years, ...lets face most of us will lose their culture, language, and religion. I have see a young kid who didn't speak somalia, and his mother can only speak somalia, is that something, When i ask her why can't your baby son speak somalia, she rely, oh that becuase he was born here, like the supoosed to mean anything. I have 5 brother and 2 sisters that was born in USA and they all speak somalia as much as i do. It depends how the parents feel about their language, culture and relgion. SO people like USA WE know what their kids would look like in the near future..no offten wallallo. Only thing I hope to see in the next 5 years somalia be a country and people stop with this nonsens of qabil. AS M.L.K SEE I DREAM THAT ONE DAY TO SEE MY PEOPLE WALK AS ONE NATION...WELL I DREAM TO SEE SOMALIA AS ONE NATION TOO. WELL THAT ALL FOR NOW. PEACE OUT.
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| | Unrecorded Date Ladies and gentleman as djiboutian citizen or gov't do we have the right or legitimity to be involved about the current desperation and chaos of our big brother (somalia & somalis). Some will say let the big brother sinck like boat in a ocean, and some other will say no we have morale and blood ties with our people in somalia therefore we must be with them in better or worst. As somalis citizens all over the world please give as your inputs.
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| | Unrecorded Date to USA a.k.a sharmarke sahal alla ha kuu sahlo walaal waad u baahantahaye wxaan xasuustaa markii jabuuti xornimada raadinaysy,cadawga koowaad ee soomaalida waxuu ahaa faransiiska, ka labaadna waxuu ahaa cali caarif oo la jiray. waxaa kale oon xasuustaa heestan oo marwalba raadiyo muqdisho ka bixi jirtay ee aqriso jabuutaay calankii fayoobida jabuutaay mayd loogu fool dhaqay jabuutay dhiig loogu faraxalay jabuutayy ma dhamaystiri karo. waxaa kal ood ogaataa waxay jabuuti iigala dhigan tahy ninkii ku yiri hashiisii dabada la'ayd ama gooji ama ha goojin geela riman baad iigu tirsan tahay
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| | Unrecorded Date Where the hell was little sister, Djibouti, when big brother and its children, Somalia and its people needed it?
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| | Unrecorded Date guys! guys!guys! what is goin on here? don't let the one who dare call himself USA do this to you. I don't think he even knows what he is taking about.Lost Sheep always don't know where they are heading they just keep on getting lost even if you show them the right way.I guess what iam trying to say is save your strength for a better and sensible fight he is not worth it.
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| | Unrecorded Date Mr USA, I have read all your comments and they have made no sense to me because they are not objective nor emotional. I wonder what makes you think this way! I'm not trying to defend the present situation in Somalia, which is morally indefensible, brutally monstrous and ethically repugnant nor am I trying to criticise DJ just for the sake of your arguement. Words do reveal the underlying characteristics of the individual concerned and it is obvoius,from your comments that you don't even know enough about where you live and how the people of your clour are denied opportunities, in terms of work and education and live the most deprived parts of USA just because they are still seen as outsiders, despite living there for centuries. Let alone a guy from DJ talking about assimilation! No conscoius person of Somali dscent can allow him/herself the luxury of talking about being a member of the societiy that he/she found themselves in.In fact, no one in the world with free will chooses to be no one when he/she is somebody. I bet lots of non-Somali readers will laugh your idea. Others will find it disgusting because they experienced the pain of having no value in their societies. Remember, those you claim that assimilation worked for them,did not freely come to America. Unlike you, theirs is not a history of people seeking to escape political oppression, economic exploitation, religios intolerance or social injustice. Rather, their ancesters were stolen from the Continent of Africa; placed on ships againist their wills, and transported across the Atlantic. No wonder, Molefi Kete once described people like you as naive who are content with living today and waiting for the death tomorrow because they have no worth and respect for themselves and have no value in their societies. In Britain, the first black and Asian people arived in middle of the sixteenth century and they are still the most disadvantaged people in UK. This is because they are denied all the opportunities that their white counter-parts enjoy. Let me give you a little story. We once had a lesson about racial inequality in America and one of my black class mate have become increasingly emotional. I asked him why he lost his coolness? He said, 'he felt no one because he is not respected as a human, he is seen as a someone with no identity and culture.' I guess you have gone deep into the occian and you see no way back! I'm proud to have DJ alongside me and I want to see them succeed in solving Somali problems. In fact, I'm really glad to see them doing what the Americans do for Britain regarding the the war of the Nothern Irland. You said, Somalians are consider scum in where you live and it seems you are quite pleased with it. Well, you mihgt think of your self as French but let me remind you an old saying, ' never ask a question that you can't answer and never say something bad that you can't distance from your self.' Afterall, we are all Somalians in the eyes of non-Somalians if you get what I mean. The war in Somalia is fundamentally a political crises because it has to do with the inability of the politicians to establish their will regarding the rulling of their people. Rise up you mighty people! This is not the way things ought to be. The present situation does not speack to a reality of our own making. I contend that it is necessary to direct our activities toward two fundemantal principles. In the first instance, we must seek to free and mobilize our minds. Secondly our activities must be placed in the direct line of the struggle of total liberation of our people from the warlords. God bless you all guys.
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| | Unrecorded Date hi nimo there is a saying in swahili that don't waste your breath on a deaf and ignorance individual. just ignore him and prombly he will quit. keep the good work to usa, l feel sorry for your mother to raise such ignorance individual like u
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| | Unrecorded Date lee qaablaawe! USA aa la i dhahaa aa? Look here son if your so called beautiful country (djabuti) is war free zone why did you immigrate to the USA son? Not only that but USA wouldnt accept your deformed ass if you said you were djabutian, but what did you say, you are from somalia to get the citizenship period! So if i were you, i would keep my shut fella. And i am through.
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| | Unrecorded Date asalama `alaykum muslims, usa, LOL! this 'barbaric' language...happens to be one of the most ancient languages you can find. it would do yah MUCH favor to learn it. wait until somali archeologists go back and dig up our land where they will find much wisdom and civilization at its best...for all humans! and, fyi, ask any african -- our land is THE ONLY land where truly milk and meat are found, incountable. *keeping my peace* peace - ahmad
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| | Unrecorded Date Hello to all those who are reading this message. I apologize for the fact that I am leaving this message in an area of the forum that is of a different subject matter than my message. But I really need this message to be read by some Somali people. Before I begin my message, please keep in mind that if you wish to respond to me about my message, you will have to e-mail me, because most likely, I will NOT return to see what messages are posted in this forum in response to what you are about to read. I am not Somali, but I am learning the Somali language. It is TRULY a beautiful language as I hear it spoken. I live in U.S.A.. There are Somalis around me, and some of them are even my friends. As I study the Somali language, I am coming across a number of hurdles, some of which I cannot overcome without the help of others. I have some Somali-English dictionaries, but that is not enough. For that reason I am humbly requesting that if there is any person who is willing to help me in my efforts, could you please e-mail me. I would only need to send you one e-mail about every 3 weeks (or even less often than that). My questions would be in the e-mail. The time it would take you to answer the questions in each e-mail would be 10 minutes or less. I know that I am not supposed to advertise in this forum. But I'm not actually trying to sell anything, and I hope that my message does not fall into an unacceptable category with regard to what is allowed in this forum. If this is the case, then I do apologize. But in all honesty, I am just sincerely trying to learn your language, and I need some help. In the past, when I have tried to ask some other Somali people for help, I have found more or less the same questions to be asked to me. So, I will state these facts now, since I imagine that some of you may be hesitant to help unless you knew this information: -=-=-=-=-=- The reason I'm learning Somali is for multiple reasons: (1) I have some Somali friends, and would like to be able to talk with them also in their language (2) I'm an open-minded person with regard to other cultures, and I try not to be single-minded, and I think it's good to know about others. (3) I see Somali people where I work, and some of them are even my friends-- and I would like to be able to communicate in their language with them. (4) I enjoy studying foreign languages in general. (5) I think it is a very beautiful language. -=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=- About myself: I'm male, student and working, and I live in U.S.A -=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=- Some of the Somali people that I have asked for help in the past have said, "why don't you ask for help from the Somali people that you see in your city?" The reason why that is not practical is because of the time issue. I am trying to get more that 1 helper. Why? Because through my asking certain Somalis my various questions in the past, I have noticed that certain words are not recognized by certain individuals. Often, I get the response, "There are different dialects, depending on whether you are from the North of Somalia, the South of Somalia, etc.". Or, “We don’t use that word, I’m from the North, etc.”. Then, if I ask a different person who is from a different region, he / she would often times end up knowing the word. I have seen that certain words I would ask a person, he / she might know what it means, but another person would not have ever heard of the particular Somali word (and visa-a-versa ). The questions I ask Somali people are stemming from my readings in the Somali language, AND THESE BOOKS ARE DIFFERENT BOOKS WHICH ARE WRITTEN BY AUTHORS WHO ARE FROM DIFFERENT PLACES AND WHO HAVE DIFFERENT DIALECTS (people, some of which may be from the North, or some of which might be from the south). I need to have helpers from different places in Somalia. That is why I need more than 1 helper. So for this reason, I am in essence trying to get more than one helper in order to get that needed variety of dialects in order to get the answers to my various questions. Please forgive me if I have said anything wrong or incorrect about that, but this is my experience to this point, and this is what some Somali people around me have explained to me so far. So my basic idea is to be able to send my e-mail questions to more than 1 person (to a couple of people who are from different places in Somalia). That way, I can be sure to get the answer (that only a person from the North might be aware of, or only an answer that a person from the South might be aware of). That is why it is not practical to ask people in person in my city because it takes too much time running around trying to get different responses from different people with different dialects if the first person I ask does not know the answer perhaps due to the fact that this person is not from a certain region where a certain word is not even used (and this word just happens to be the word that I'm asking for the meaning of). -=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=- "Why don't you just go to one of those Somali web sites and get grammar books and stuff?" This is also not enough. I have already bought some English-Somali dictionaries, and I have access to Somali grammar books. But there are some questions that you need to ask others. For example, here is one question that you might receive from me: in a Somali text that I was reading, I saw this sentence, <<Hadda waa nin weyn >> . . I already knew the meanings of the individual words, "Hadda" = "Now / just now" <><> "waa nin" = "he's a man / it's a man" <><> "weyn" = "big". But I'm almost sure, based on the context in which this word appeared that the author was NOT talking about a BIG man, like a giant. I was thinking perhaps "weyn" was being used in the sense "adult" or "older / old man". But I was not sure. This was an example where I really needed a Somali person to let me type out this sentence to him / her in an e-mail (as well as the sentence before and after it), and then to have that helper simply explain the following information: "WEYNcan also mean 'such and such' and that in this sentence where the word WEYN is used, it means 'such and such'." -- Because I don't have the experience of hearing the language spoken in context (because I can't understand Somali spoken fluently yet), I sometimes need the help of a person who has heard these words used in various ways, and who is able to give an easy 3 second answer off the top of his / her head because it's his / her native language, whereas I can not do that. There is another reason why I need more than 1 helper. Because these questions pop up often when I do my readings in Somali. I want more than 1 helper because I DON’T want to burden and overload a small number of helpers with my questions in e-mails every 2 days. That is not polite, and it is inappropriate. So, I’m going to get enough helpers to that I can divide up my questions among various people. That way, my MANY questions are being answered, but each individual is only answering about 1 e-mail every 3 weeks. And each e-mail only takes about 10 minutes or less to answer the questions. After all, if a person is kind enough to offer his / her help, then the least I can do is keep my questions to a limit for that person. -=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=-=- And the last question that I've gotten a lot of times is, "Hey man, you are Somali, why don't you just admit it! I don't believe you!" No, I am not Somali. I am American. I cannot prove it unless you live in my city and meet me. -=-=-=-=-=- Well, I think that is about it. Once again, I apologize if this message is inappropriate for this area of the forum. If any person is willing to help me, I WOULD VERY MUCH SO appreciate it. Basically, I need a person who speaks both Somali and English fluently, and who is also able to read the Somali language. And by the way, please keep in mind that if you wish to respond to me about my message, you will have to e-mail me, because most likely, I will NOT return to see what messages are posted in this forum in response to what you have just read. My e-mail is as follows… gateway388@hotmail.com
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| | Unrecorded Date Hello Mr USA Can you tell us how did you get your legal papers in the USA?. I am sure according to your paper remember when you were sitting infront of the immigration officer, how wonderfull Somali you were and now when you got your papers and your silly belly full, you are out offending Somali people. How many traitors we have seen before. Listen jerk, everybody knows big brother Somalia has been in troubles lately, but it ain't no dead yet. It is waking up step by step and one day you will regret what you are saying today. And mind you Somali people can stand more than your sort of rubbish and more. Just hold on and wait we are coming, for the time being we are busy making some transnational dollars in business and stuff, when get enough of it, we will be coming to Djibouti as usual to kick the asses of your French-trained bitches..Aya Ya Ya! how lovely they are and cheap too. What were you before 1976? and what were we then? And finally if you can't stand Somalis, get out of Somalinet and join DjiboutiNet or something if you can ever come up with anything like it from your tiny little desert corner of the horn.
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| | Unrecorded Date T0 USA NASIIB DARO WAXA ILA MUQATA IN DAD NOCAN AH AY JIRAN OO KU FANAYA IN AY YIHIN DAD IS BADALAY AMA U HEYSTA HADAY KU HADLAN AF QALAAD IN AY YIHIIN DAD ILBAX AH USA WAXA YAR AAN KA IRAAHDO WAXA MESHAN KU SOO BADHIGTAY USA SOMALI KUMA DHUTINEYSO LA 'AANTAA TAN KALE USA BAL DIB ISKUGU NOQO WAXAEY ILA TAHAY IN AADAN SAXSANEEYN NABEDGALYO
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| | Monday, January 01, 2001 - 07:29 pm To USA Il ne faut pas perdre ton temps avec des somaliens. Pour qu'un dialogue ait une signification pour eux , il faut parler de " clans". Eh oui! le clan, le sujet favori des somalien et d'ailleurs ils s'y connaissent fort bien dans ce domaine . A part cela les autres sujets ne les interessent pas ou ils n'y comprennent beaucoup de choses. Sur c , a +
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