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     | Unrecorded Date TO ALL SOMALI MEN AND WOMEN. I AM A SOMALI MAN AND RECENTLY TRAVELLED TO EUROPE AND THE STATES AND AM MARRIED BUT I FOUND THAT SO MANY SOMALI WOMEN ALL BEAUTIFUL AND NO SOMALI MAN HOLDING THIER HAND IN MARRIAGE . I MEAN ALL THESE GIRLS ARE AVAILABLE THEN I VENTURE ON TO CHECK TO MARRIAGE FREQUENCIES OF SOMALIS TO SOMALIS AND FOUND OUT OF THE LARGE POPULATION OF SOMALI MALE AND FEMALES ONLY A FEW ARE GETTING MARRIED AND THE PROPORTION OF AVAILABLE AND WANTING TO GET MARRIED WOMEN AND THE ACTUAL NUMBER THAT END UP GETTING MARRIED ARE GREATLY IN DIS PROPORTION .------------------------------------------------MY QUESTION TO YOU ALL IS WHY IS IT SO AND WERE ARE ALL THE MEN THAT ARE DESIRABLE TO WOMEN IN MARRIAGE OR ARE THE SISTERS DEMANDING TOO MUCH OR ARE THE NUMBER OF US MEN THAT CAN CUT THE BIRTHDAY-CAKE JUST TOO LITTLE AND THE SISTERS ARE GROWING OLD WITH OUT A MAN. please reply in a friendly manner cause i mean to insult nobody and if there are things i have miss-stated piont it out to me in a diplamatic manner...........BUT I NEED SOME ANSWERS QUICK AND FAST.
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| | Unrecorded Date PPL. HELP THIS GUY OUT.....CAUSE I DONT KNOW WHY BUT I AM SURE YOU WILL BE TOLD
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| | Unrecorded Date Mr Dalmar I'm not juror, but my speculation is simply,"scapegoat" most of the male had legacy: Jaad / Qaad, which cause lassitude and madness. that is a reason scared many female.
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| | Unrecorded Date You hit the bull's eye mOwLiD-mAcAaNe!!! Balwada whether is qat or qamri is one of the main reasons that women refuse in making a commitment to a man.
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| | Unrecorded Date I AGREE JAD IS WHY THE MEN ARE NOT GETTING MARRIED AND ARE SPENDING ALL THEIR MONEY ON JAD RATHER THAN THE WOMAN IN THEIR LIVES....IT'S EITHER JAD OR COFFEE...I GUESS THIS HAS REPLACED THEIR DESIRE FOR WOMAN...LOLOLOLOL
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| | Unrecorded Date To Nagaad & Maryan.. brilliant! We as a Somali-man how we can breakthrough those boycott, and keep our customary. Peace & love
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| | Unrecorded Date TO ALL 'Y' THERE ARE GOOD MEN, MAYBE U WERE LOOKING AT WRONG PLACES OR U ARE MAKING HARD 4 US TO FIND U . SO PLEASE BE4 U JUDGE US ALL MAKE YOURSELF AVAILABLE. PEACE AND LOVE.....
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| | Unrecorded Date They want a Ten thousand dollar ring and a big wedding at the Sheraton Hotel,,lol The ladies are at lose, They are all waitting for Prince charming to show up,, My advice to the sisters, This is not a fairy tale, neither a soap opera, It's called reality. Wake up before the Chickens come home to roast. The biological clock is ticking,,,tick,,,tac,,tick tac,,,tic,,
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| | Unrecorded Date Let it tic,and tic and tic. I would rather have the clock tick to death than settle for a lazy loser bum and have a miserable life.
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| | Unrecorded Date Discriminator god for it girl until u die, who cares
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| | Unrecorded Date PEOPLE..... U R MISSING THE POINT HERE:- BALWAD is not the main reason........Coz if a man want to get married, he will do anything to attract JULIETTE. Why blame Jaad on the incompetence in our society coz not every SOMALIAN GUY eats Jaad....Puhleeese. There has gotta be another reason for the minimum "Marriages". I reckon it is 1:-The lack of encouragement in the somali community....... Majority of the girls are not encouraged enough to get educated...The emphasis is mainly put on the Boyssss of the Family. 2:-In QURBOland......We,Somalians don't make use of the resources available to us so we get by 10 yrs or so withouht knowing the response to 'How R U?' 3:-When it comes to marriage.....We are unable to share a life...coz we never had a life to share in the first place..... Overall conclusion.......MAJORITY of Somalians prefer standing in street corners at 10 am while the MINORITY goes to get their education and gets jobs in the real world. PS:- I am carefully using the terms Majority & Minority coz we all ain't bad......Just coz there are a few bad apples in the basket U are not gonna burn the whole FARM.....CAPISHE..... PEACE BADGIRL
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| | Unrecorded Date Areee.....from where I stand, there are way too many marriages goin on! mahee jogtina!
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| | Unrecorded Date Salaam to you all, First of all I am married (Al-Xamdu Lillaah), Second, I have been trying to find out the cause of this problem (for it is a problem). I discussed the issue with many Somali women who are ready to get married, if Mr. right comes, they are blaming the men for not approaching them and discuss the issue. On the other hand the men I talked to came up with this excuse, and mind you, not one, not two but many: You know what, back home it was easy to approach a lady, you could take her to a movie, buy her some perfumes or dirac and garbasar, take her in a cab, offer her dinner, you know, basically, materials open the door and you go through the nine yards. Now here in the U.S. (I only talk about here) maybe the lady makes bigger bucks than you do, so how could you try to control her financially, and where do you start when you approach her???? They also claim that it's not the right time to go and ask her parents. (I don't know if this applies to "ALL" women) That indicates that Somali men know only one type of shukaansi, and it has expired. Peace all
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| | Unrecorded Date damn!!! Muriidi that might explain why i am not married or have any girlfriend. ••••! ••••! ••••! ••••!
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| | Unrecorded Date lol @ MasterP that is really funny man, but i think ur over reacting a bit, people at different circumstances may not be able got married.
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| | Unrecorded Date lol @ MasterP that is really funny man, but i think ur over reacting a bit, people at different circumstances may not be able get married.
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| | Unrecorded Date Dear Dalmar, from what i have observed, I came to the conclusion that many somali women dont want to get married so fast is because they are OUT there getting themselves degrees and tryna get stable jobs BEFORE they get married. It used to be that back home, when women turn a certain age, they would get married....but nowadays, in the west especially where we are unsure about our futures, women want to be assured that they would lead Stable life, there fore, they want to go thru college, become independant and so forth...another reason is because the lack of GOOD [AND good-looking =) ] somali men!!! need i say more?! Be Peace
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| | Unrecorded Date MissX, you said when talking about why Somali ladies do not get marry this: the reason is that because "the lack of GOOD [AND good-looking =) ] somali men!!!" Are you talking about light-skinned, dark-skinned, tall, short, athletic men, skinny, chubby men, short hair, bald, curly hair, kinky hair, big nose, long nose.....? Can you define what is a good looking men to you, MissX? Are you saying that there are NO good looking Somali men out there for you?
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| | Unrecorded Date and the battle goes on!!!!!
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| | Unrecorded Date i'm glad i don't need anymore women, i have 4 beautiful wives and they r all well educated, 2 r doctors 1 is a lawyer and the other 1 is a student, and they r all somalis. i don't care if the rest of somali ladies never get marry.
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| | Unrecorded Date Where do you live sheikh Sharif? Pls. don't say USA or Canada..
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| | Unrecorded Date Malaaq, Sheikh Shareef lives in Fantasy Island.
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| | Unrecorded Date Shariifo, it is true that Shareef is not telling the truth, but what about the Somali ladies who say that they are not ready for marriage? The guy(DALMAR) who opened this page, posed a question under the title of: "WHY SO MANY SOMALI GIRLS ARE NOT MARRIED" and he also pointed out that there is a problem facing the Somali girls: "AND PROBLEMS THEY ARE FACING". The question he posed is been asked many times before by Somali guys, even when we were back home: I think they made it a concert(play) about it: "HABLAYA-HOOW HAD-MAAD GUURSAN DOON TAAN" But the Somali women of today are denying that there is a problem of being a single. I do not know what is the reason, though. I suspect that the Somali ladies are lying when they say it is not a problem. Ladies all over the world are eager to get marry as soon as they find their match, but most Somali ladies put on a show some how when the subject of marriage comes up; it is like that they are stuck-up, conceited, snobbish; thus, they are the ones living in a dream world. Or is it the CUT(the circumcision) which makes them behave like that and blaming the Somali men for their lack of emotion(feeling, sensation, passion).?
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| | Unrecorded Date Michigan....you are funny. MissX....afkaaga caano lagu qabay (2% if you like). you said exactyly what I wanted to say. However I should add that, men are intimidated by women nowadays and I live in Canada so I can only speak what I see. for example..I noticed that when I go to clubbing with my girlfriends, we like to go ourselves, we call it(girls nite out), so we go and have fun. My point is guys(black men) hit on us, they ask as to dance or whatever, and to be honest with you I never seen or heard somali guy doing that. All they do in get drunk and stand around or just look at you until you wanna scream(so annoying oh my god!!!),and when they see you dance with goodlooking brother they look at you like you killed someone...what's up with that???? I dont get it, so I say they need self condifende and they need to work on those shoulder, if you know what I mean.....coz if you need a girl, boys you need to look good physically,( that necessarily does not mean handsome face, but it definitely means nice body like Malcolm in Y&R), so I say (get up and build you muscles that yo'mama gave you..lol). Dont get me wrong I'm not dissing the somali guys, but that is what I see and how most of the girls feel. Xirsi I hope that explains Peace y'all and Happy Hunting
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| | Unrecorded Date Woman2ooo, Wrote: for example..I noticed that when I go to clubbing with my girlfriends, we like to go ourselves, we call it(girls nite out), so we go and have fun. My point is guys(black men) hit on us, they ask as to dance or whatever, and to be honest with you I never seen or heard somali guy doing that. All they do in get drunk and stand around or just look at you until you wanna scream. You honestly believe you will find a Man or a potential husband, in a Club !!! Its like going to the junk yard to look for a good car. If somali guys dont hit on you even when they are drunk !!!!! then take the hint girl.
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| | Unrecorded Date Woman2000, there is nothing wrong for a lady prefering and wanting a well build athletic man with muscles and broad shoulders. For sure, most Somali men, those who have no broad shoulders with muscles, must have their work cut out for them if they want to win over the Somali ladies who prefer those kinds of men. Women2000, it seems to me that the Somali men you met know that the reason you will reject them and that is why they wouldn't ask you for dance. Therefore, no wonder why they are being intimidated by you ladies and your preference. So, if good looks, muscles and confidence are what these Somali ladies want in man, most Somali men must start to eat right and start working out. Meantime, though what are you ladies going to do? Are you still keep going to your nite-outs and night clubs looking for African American brothers instead? If that is the case, there will be less marriage between so many Somali sisters and so many brothers in the future, because most Somali guys will not marry a lady who is been around with the brothers. Are these ladies expect to marry the American brothers, if not, are they planning to build family with a Somali brother after her experience? I got the feeling that this arrangement is not going be a win win situation for ladies.
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| | Unrecorded Date i'll never share a bed with a woman who goes to clubs.... najeynaa, they r unclean dirty and wasaq woman200, can u please shut ur stink hole, we somalis don't need a mentally unstable hooker.
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| | Unrecorded Date Salaam From where I stand there are too many weddings that people throw themselves into that end up in divorce. I know what I am talking about I am divorced. I would suggest to all of you to think hard about what marriage means. Learn what Islam has to say about marriage and what are the best examples to emulate. As an educated woman who is above all Muslim, I place the blame on men and women alike. Men no longer are as responsible and women have become too westernized. For all single sisters, a man that is religious, educated and hardworker is hard to find so if he comes your way grab him. Forget about looks and money. For Somali men please become more aggressive and demand your rights, foreigners are taking your woman away. As to the young lady who mentiomed clubbing and drunk men, rest assured that GOOD eligible men are not found in clubs. And a man who asks to dance with you and frolick with you is not a man but a dayuus, so go with the foreigners and leave the somali men alone. For all: KEEP A HAPPY FACE
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| | Unrecorded Date Optimistic, good advice: "For all single sisters, a man that is religious, educated and hardworker is hard to find so if he comes your way grab him. Forget about looks and money. For Somali men please become more aggressive and demand your rights, foreigners are taking your woman away." However, there is a big difference between most Somali men and women if they fooled around and lost good opportunity to settle down with the right match. You see, in our culture, a woman who is known to fool around in her prime time and looses best years of her life(also her virginity to a man who was not married), she looses her best asset: Her reputation. Thus, she will have less chance finding a nice man who will accept her past history. A Somali man, on the other hand, no matter how much he fooled around with different girls(both non-Somali girls and Somali girls), he has more chance finding a nice virgin girl, that is when he turned around his life and became a religious man. I said earlier that "I got the feeling that this arrangement(girls fooling around and guys fooling around) is not going be a win win situation for the ladies.", because a lady is always expect to challenge man's respect, and never move his compassion(she does not want a man to say to her he will over look her bad reputations, but I don't care if she is a virgin or not). I know it is not fair, but this is the world we live in and it is our culture. Ladies are the fairest of creation and they must protect themselves, because they are judged differently in our culture and as we are aware, that few women, those who are lucky, beautiful or have money, always have a fair chance of over-coming their past history, but women in general have not had a fair chance and it is still the same. Sometimes, a woman's best protection is money of her own or her beauty, but as times goes, he looses her beauty and runs into the rist of running out their biological clock running-out. A man can fool around and easily marry a virgin, even well into his 50's, no so with a lady. Women who fool around, like men, run into extremes and as a result, women, almost always, worse than men at the end. So, whatever women do, they must do it twice as well as men to be thought of good or better. Luckily, this is not that difficult since most women can protect themselves better than men.
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| | Unrecorded Date OK,Listen Up guys coz this is how it is. MasterP what can I say other than that is is vice versa, and I got the Impression that you have been one of the guys who stand around. However, I dont recall saying that I'm gonna marry some loser I met in club, I said I go there to have fun and I do. And for the record, it was one example, here is another closer to home, How about somali parties , or even weddings,Did you ever see guy asking a girl to dance,,,,,I think not.. All they do is stand around the bar and watch girls dance....what's your excuse for that???? Sheik-Shareef arent you the one with the four wives....give me a f*cking break. off all pple to call me names!!, and I dont think you are sheik, I know your type " horny old f*ck"....get with the program. Optimistic Well, Here is a smartman....who have been burned...sorry pal I think you're all hypocrite, and misunderstood me on purpose( or you dont know any better). However, which ever the case might be, lets get few things straight. 1. I didnt say I like african-americans men better than somali men. what I said was they ask us, somalis dont...was that too hard to understand. 2. what's wrong with nice healthy body( dont do it for us, do it for your sorry selves). this means, if somali girls see their men, doing something about themselves, they wouldnt notice other, and I know alot of guys who work out and stuff, my boyfriend is one of them and i'm proud of him, we even go to the gym together. 3.get over this idea about marrying a virgin, coz such thing dont exist anymore (even aqwaan sisters fool around nowaday, atleast I know of one). I dont think you can have your cake and eat it. you all wanna the girls to sleep with you and you dont wanna marry her after....that just doesnt work no more ( there is no damaged goods). And what's with the hostility....I'm just telling the truth, if you dont like it, I can suggest what to do with it Grow up boys :0) Ciao, and bouna fortuna
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| | Unrecorded Date war inagaa wax aragnay, waaaaar waa maxay sheydaamaddan yari?
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| | Unrecorded Date Sheik (wanna be) If I wasnt annoyed with you, I'ld think you're funny. is that all you can say?????
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| | Unrecorded Date To:Troupled Chik/BadGirl "J"espere que tu vas te marier en blanc(sheeydaamad)I hope you'll be married in white. Meelwalba waxaad la taagantahay Nimanka eedeyntooda'e waxaan ku iri nimanka UK jooga waa dead bodies miyaa mise sheeydamad baad tahay. The Torah says,EL sit ma tiswash ta'rifa mincheir gosha ( a woman isn't worth a cent without a man) Better remember that, you ain't sh*t without a man CiiseRooti
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| | Unrecorded Date Optimistic: You have said it all,,,,,,let the wise ones take the advise from the wisdom of the sister. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you,
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| | Unrecorded Date Optimistic Thank you. The silent majority or minority of Somali men do thank you. God bless you. Bye Alex.
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| | Unrecorded Date Woman2000, you said "you all wanna the girls to sleep with you and you dont wanna marry her after....that just doesnt work no more ( there is no damaged goods). Yes, my sister, I agree with you that most Somali guys will sleep with you and use you, but wouldn't marry you. However, is your boyfriend going to be one of them? You said "my boyfriend is one of them and i'm proud of him, we even go to the gym together." Looks like to me, he is having his "cake and eat it" later with some nice girl. You said *all* guys "wanna the girls to sleep with you and you dont wanna marry her after....". The question is: Who is getting the better deal, you or your boyfriend, since one of the guys? Woman2000, there is no "hostility" coming from me...."I'm just telling the truth,", like it is. And as it looks, you and I seems to be in agreeing with things, right?
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| | Unrecorded Date MasterP...needs therapy from his increasing amount of hypocrisy. Optimist...you dont fit the bill pal, I know you been hurt,and thus You aightnt rational, and probably unstable..so your judgement is off, better luck next time around. My man Xirsi seems to me you're still confused, or you plain dont get me at all...( not that it's any of your business) but my boyfriend, is unbelievably sweet and he did ask me to marry him on our 2nd anniversay, but what you seem to be missing is , that I dont wanna be married, I'm 23 and I'm too young to settled, and finish my degree at U of W,I have year and half to go, so I've no rush to get married.the thing is I'm young, beautiful(if what pple say about me is true),smart,I can get any man I want, so believe you me if marriage is what I want, I'll get it, but it just happens to be the last thing on my mind. I used to life in toronto and I been to my share of weddings and divorces, so it's not something any sane woman will go for, just because her biological clock is ticking. so fellas,I think you're the ones who should be worried, todays woman dont need a man, so he can make her life miserable.....and if you need to know about men and their faults check the Male Bashing discussion. you might be exception Xirsi, but the majority of you are plain idoits. peace have a nice weekend boys (hope you get lucky to nite.......lol)
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| | Unrecorded Date Woman2000 i wouln't have u as a wife even for free in a million yrs...sharmuuuuuuuto siiil bolol.
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| | Unrecorded Date Waar sheikh shareef go and brush your dirty mouth and have some self respect brother.
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| | Unrecorded Date Women2000 may allah guide as all to the true path Aamiin! That is all i got to say.
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| | Unrecorded Date Sheekh Shareef, Saxibow magacyada aad huwantahay iyo afkaaga waxa ka soo baxaya isma laha, ee bal magacyada iska beddel intaadan xaaraanta daacin. Magac kuu qalmo raadso.
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| | Unrecorded Date woman2000, you said "seems to me you're still confused, or you plain dont get me at all...( not that it's any of your business) but my boyfriend, is unbelievably sweet and he did ask me to marry him on our 2nd anniversay" I'm not "confused" and yes, I did "get" what you said. You complained and whined about Somali MEN while generalizing them. You said: "you *ALL* wanna the girls to sleep with you and you dont wanna marry her after....that just doesnt work no more ( there is no damaged goods).". So, the only way I seem to be "confused" and did not "get" what you were saying is if your *boyfriend* is NOT a Somali, right, woman2000?
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| | Unrecorded Date Xirsi....he is somali alright, and I apologize if I generalized men, because there are good one and I can honestly say my boyfriend is one of them. And the bad ones....(the Sheik, with the problems)need I say more. Well anyway, I have to say it has been interesting discussion and mainly because you are the only rational person here....congratulations, you're hereby nominated for the man of the Week....have a great weekend and Enjoy yourself bro Xirsi. peace
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| | Unrecorded Date TO:Women2000 a.k.a Welfare queen Ya gotta long way to go.
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| | Unrecorded Date THE BEST QUOT OF THIS PAGE. By Optimistic on Thursday, March 23, 2000 - 05:32 pm: For all single sisters, a man that is religious, educated and hardworker is hard to find so if he comes your way grab him. Forget about looks and money. For Somali men please become more aggressive and demand your rights, foreigners are taking your woman away.
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| | Unrecorded Date Khalil, Ma dafnaa hee maxaa lasmaeeyaa ninyahow Soomaaliya lama joogee?
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| | Unrecorded Date Every Guy wants to date the most beautiful girl in town,, and when it comes to marriage they want a virgin for a wife ?? Every girl wants a fairy tale wedding and a handsome Prince. Seriously, somalis live beyond there means, you go to an engagement and you hear the girl's family asking for ten thousand dollars just for meher, the poor guy who makes eight buck an hour agrees to it. we all know he cant afford it. The wedding expenses, he gets half his family to co-sign a loan. She wants a big wedding you know where ! a honeymoon, a limo, the guy who makes eight bucks an hour,, Ali average is in deep ••••, After the wedding the limo drops them off at their government housing project, and you are wondering whats wrong with this picture ???? The word reality is not even in thier dictionary. And you wonder why am livin la vita lonely !!!
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| | Unrecorded Date lol@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ReaLdeal, my, but you have spoken the truth!!!! Rest assured though, you are not the only one living la vita lonely!!!!
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| | Unrecorded Date realdeal ya got that right and then some more DOW!
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| | Unrecorded Date faqri faan jecel !!
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| | Unrecorded Date So real day how do we face the reality? Maybe Hebel can help too.
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| | Unrecorded Date CiiseRooti....care to expand your meaning??....and as for taking welfare, what can I say, except that everyone takes little contribution from the government, no need to scorn that or point finger at pple who do, you have been in that situation, or still is for all I know. If not, good for you, but dont act like you never been there(after all we all are QAXOOTI,like it or not), and as for me sure I used to take welfare $520 amonth, but know I take Osap, I'm not lying to myself, I'm taking full advantage from the system, until such time that I dont need to anymore.....got that. Realdeal.....you are correct in your observation and I agree with you. somali pple live beyond their means....they need to get real. Xirsi...how u doin bro? hope you had a great w/end.. adios
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| | Unrecorded Date Ar Jac badanaa meeshaan. Listen Realdeal , we use to pay value of 100 camel "Geel" for your dowry " Meher" before, know many women even are OK with gacan moos ah. why?
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| | Unrecorded Date Woman2000, > Xirsi...how u doin bro? hope you had a great > w/end.. Thanks for asking, but my weekend was busy. I had to work. How was yours?
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| | Unrecorded Date But what kills me is that woman won't marry Galka. OK, a few will, but most avoid us like the plague. It's incredible. You would think that, Islam aside, people would be inclined to date men / woman they were attracted to. But I know a number of Somali woman who won't even consider it. Regardless of what the guy is like. It smacks of elitism amongst an ethnic group that can hardly make the claim.
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| | Unrecorded Date Why would any one marry a Gal ??? why ? They cant be that desperate.
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| | Unrecorded Date Not a gal!!! A Galka!!! I'm not advocating homosexual marriage here. Jesus!!!
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| | Unrecorded Date TO WOMAN2000, I dont think you would find a nice man in clubs. But if you are not looking for a nice man then well you are in the right place. AS your somali sister i would suggest that you stop going clubbing , its not a nice place for a girl to be and its dangerouse. Some of my friends go clubbing , they date boys ( like the westernised people), they dont wear hijabs etc. they do all these things and a lot more but me i dont do anything of , why , because i am somalia , i have a culture , i am muslim etc. There is a saying guur waa calaf.So no matter whether you go clubbing or space you will eventually get your calaf. But before thats happens , when i guy wants to marry a girl , he will look her education , repuatition , family , personality and whether she is a virgin or not. Most say it doesnt matter but beleive me it does. They are always lecturing me to date boys ,not to too much study and go clubbing with them but i tell them to get lost. Its not that i cant have boyfriend , Most of the good looking ones ask me out but i always tell NO. I am just going to waite for my calaf and would suggest that you do the same.
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| | Unrecorded Date What is a Calaf? I've never heard this expression before.
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| | Unrecorded Date Calaf is destiny Mad Mac!!
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| | Unrecorded Date Surfer Mahadsannid Abowe. My Somali just isn't what it should be.
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| | Unrecorded Date Mad Mac, why assume it is an aboowe?
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| | Unrecorded Date Ooooops. Sorry madame. I just assumed....... obviously blew that one. Let me restate. Mahadsannid Abai. While I'm at it, what's Zina? I'm sure no one is referencing the TV program.
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| | Unrecorded Date Abaayo Surfer Can I ask where in Somalia you're originally from and when you left? If you lived in Hamer which neighborhood? I lived between Medina and Lambar Afr. I also spent about 3 months out near Wanle Weyne. Do you miss Somalia or do you prefer your new home - wherever that is?
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| | Unrecorded Date I speak as a somalian women and the reason why I think somali women are not married is because somali men are fist of all not romantic enough the numer 2) reason is when they aproach a girland asking her to dinner or whatever they act as if they're doing you a favor saying stuff like ( "I know you want to go to dinner with me so I'll take you out " ) that is a total turn off , that makes them look uneduacted. another think is they don't understand that women are their own people they i think a women's place is in the kitchen and to look pretty well for a person like me who is her 5th year of university that is a big problem because I don't want some to expect me to stay home mine you if that was a decision we both came to that won't be a problem. personally I think taht somali men are the sweetest men but they need to wake up and smell the coffee and start to respect somli women and treat like the queens they truly are and one think I say to somali men is women are lookind for a decend man not into money it's all about you porsonality and atitude not how much you have in your bank account and someone whowants to make most of thier life . hodan
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| | Unrecorded Date Salaam to All Every community has its own problem. I mean look at your neighbor community they are also striving the same manners we do. Men and women are wondering what have happened to their species visa-verse to somalis. I mean this problem doesnt concern alone among from our somali community better yet, we have to ask ourselves how can we overcome with this barrier between our somalis sisters and brothers?? I, myself, too have no answer for this, however; it would be better if we all forget blaming one another. Men shouldnt be worried or intimidated by womens' living style, I mean how much money she makes or kind of car she drives and her fancy living style etc. Women on the other hand shouldnt be making too hard on brothes. Remember, God made us all kind of shapes hence, whether he's athletic or not, handsome or not, makes the big greens or not still he'll be who he is. Men were divided into these categories 1- Men who are educated and have decent jobs 2- Men who chew chat(qaad)and drink beers all day and night 3- Men who are very religious 4- Men who are uneducated On the other hand women were divide into these 1- Women who are educated and have well paid jobs 2- Women who are greedy 3- Women who are very religious 4- Women who are uneducated 5- Women who chew chat(qaad) and drink beers all day and night Well, these match both parties accept women beats one goal from men. Apparantlt, there are women and men who will find their match very attractiveness and presumably he or she will become his or her distany. Old said says "Nin Yar Yareesi Magalo" "Dumarna Quuris Ma Gasho" Nevertheles, I believe that we should be touted the better values that one carries to another and start to learn in a good manner ways we can approach each other . Peace
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| | Unrecorded Date Salaam to All Every community has its own problem. I mean look at your neighbor community they are also striving the same manners we do. Men and women are wondering what have happened to their species visa-verse to somalis. I mean this problem doesnt concern alone among from our somali community better yet, we have to ask ourselves how can we overcome with this barrier between our somalis sisters and brothers?? I, myself, too have no answer for this, however; it would be better if we all forget blaming one another. Men shouldnt be worried or intimidated by womens' living style, I mean how much money she makes or kind of car she drives and her fancy living style etc. Women on the other hand shouldnt be making too hard on brothes. Remember, God made us all kind of shapes hence, whether he's athletic or not, handsome or not, makes the big greens or not still he'll be who he is. Men were divided into these categories 1- Men who are educated and have decent jobs 2- Men who chew chat(qaad)and drink beers all day and night 3- Men who are very religious 4- Men who are uneducated On the other hand women were divide into these 1- Women who are educated and have well paid jobs 2- Women who are greedy 3- Women who are very religious 4- Women who are uneducated 5- Women who chew chat(qaad) and drink beers all day and night Well, these match both parties accept women beats one goal from men. Apparantly, there are women and men who will find their match very attractiveness and presumably he or she will become his or her distany. Old said says "Nin Yar Yareesi Magalo" "Dumarna Quuris Ma Gasho" Nevertheles, I believe that we should be touted the better values that one carries to another and start to learn in a good manner ways we can approach each other . Peace
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| | Unrecorded Date Hodan, why don't you give me your e-mail # and I will take you out to dinner, I know you want me to. Kutubey adigu ma Linnaeus baa awoow kuu ahaa, classification iyo waxaa waddid maxay yihiin, lol. Anyway hal category baad illowday oo aan ku jiro. Educated man without job, wife, money or prospects. Balwo oo dhan ma lihi, diintana waa jecelahay laakiin taariku salaad baan ahay, illaah ha isoo haddeeye-pray for me sister. So why don't I have a job. I can't seem to get the the jobs I am qualified for and the others I can't bring myself to accept them since they are so completely unsuitable for a man of my qualifications and accomplishments. So there you are, I just gave you a new category. Highly educated, unemployed, abstemious, quasi-religious man.
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| | Unrecorded Date Lol@@Gorgor kacay la Mood, your category always existed, they are the ones oo "la jaf-jafdo".....do you know any ex-pilots; docotors; agronomist or economist.....extra points if they studied in Europe......all they need to bring is there suit case....if they still have one.
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| | Unrecorded Date the somali guys that i have met so far, were intimidated by my attitude. i think because i'm self contained, and i dont like playing games, and i dont like listening to BSs!and I dont like cheats. and i dont tolerate irresponsibility. Bottom line is, somali men get insecure when they're are dealing with me! ! The socalled playa wanna bees, i adjusted 'em and thrash 'em. HARDCORE wannabees, made 'em soft and thrash 'em. the point is,only a real man can challenge me! somali men(not all) suck, they dont know how to deal with a woman, they want needy women who constantly reassures their male ego. PLease, get real.and I dont know why everyone is talking about single somali girls? why dont you ask yourselves, "why there are alot somali bachelors running around your neigbourhoods?". As you now more somali women are enrolling in higher education institutes. hence, they are becoming analytical thinkers. Somali women are now choosing their partners carefully,They are being more selective. "if the shoe doesn't fit you must quit". SO you ruggedy ass boys out there, get ready for somali WOMEN of the millenium. peace and luv tutti
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| | Unrecorded Date Ready-to-Wear, Ready-to-Go? Anigu waxaan aad sheegtay oo dhan ma ihi ee arrimo ka waaweyn baan faaqidaa oon dhexda kaga jiraa. Europe iyo meel baasna wax kuma barane aabbahay mutulihiisa iyo markaan geela la joogo ayaan culuunta is bari jiray. Waagaa waxaanu naalay Sarara-Weyne iyo Heegaale iyo aynigeeda. Waxaan xeeldheere ku noqday arrimaha sixirka, faalka, kuhaanka, yu'ashada, xiddiginta iyo wixii la halmaalaba. Markii dambena waxaan takhasus ugu tegey gobolka Xinjiang ee Shiinaha markii ugu dambaysana aan culuuntan ka gun gaadhayana wuxuu macalinkaygii ii diray Tibet. 40 maalmood baan buuro ka talaabeynay. That is where I studied the most jealously guarded secrets of the Tibetan shamans. They exposed me to a mind-bending cocktail of meditations that resulted in moments of absolute clarity about life, nature and our place in the universe. I would not delve into too great details because this stuff is too esoteric and in the hands of novice could be quite dangerous. That is that. Mid kale af-Soomaaliga igu adag baan u malaynayaa "La jafjafdo" meelaan u saaraan garan waayaye iga jaahil bixi.
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| | Unrecorded Date Gorgor Kacay la Mood, I don't think you have grasped the lessons of the Tibetan shamans. By assuming, what you could divulge might be "too estoteric and quite dangerous in the hand of novice" you have failed in one of the fundamental principles that guides the Shamans, and that is:- "Overcoming arrogance" rememeber the leasson:- "When you are fully gentle, without arrogance and without aggression, you see the brilliance of the universe. You develop a true preception of the universe". I don't want to assume anyhting, but one who claims to be schooled by the Tibetan shamans, you exhibit a lack of understanding of the principle of Drala!!! Take jafjafdo as homework, you might relate to the concept. May I suggest you change your username to Daraaye. Adios.
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| | Unrecorded Date Pret-a-Porter xaggaad igala qaaday naayaa/waryaa magacaygana maxaad ka rabtaa. Waxaan u malynayaa markaa yarayd ciddu kuuma iibin jirin dharka "reedhimiidh" ah ee harqaanlaa lagu geyn jiray hadana pret this pret that baa kaa soo hadhay. As for this Drala business I think I cut class that day. If I recall I got an incomplete in that course. I have to check my transcripts. Regarding the arrogance I am a Somali man and the stuff is in my genes (Soomaali baan ahay, San-ku-neefle ma oggoli, inuu iga sarayn karo). Addiga laakiin Soomaaligaagu keyga waaba ka liitaa baan u malynayaa. Daraaye. Ma fahansani waxaad ka waddo. Runtiina nin maskax xun ma ihi oo intaan falalowga noqon sodonka jisba korkaan ka xafiday. Daraaye waxaad ka wado laakiin way i dul martay. It could mean dipping. Do you mean to call me the big dipper. What, are you confusing me with Wilt Chamberlain. Unless you mean that I dip my johnson as frequently as he did his? hmmm. I really do not know. Daraaye what a quaint little handle, maybe I should use it. Dip. The dipper. On second thought no, there is something unsavoury about the whole name this bein' a community board and all. Anyway Pret-a-Porter arrintii oo dhan si kalaa u qaadatay, waxaan ahay illeyn nin faaltuu ahoo waxaan rabaa inaan wakhti dilee. Bye-Bye.
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| | Unrecorded Date Lol@@@@@Gorgor Kacay la Mood, man you are funny!!! Missing clasess, dhar reedimiidh.., Okay hadaan ku fahamay. Aniguse waxaan xirtaa dharka 'hudiedka' Adiga ma fahamesid, daraaye? jafjafasho? Bal waxaad tagtaa page-ka af Somaaliga cusub, intaaso aad ka heesha. You know what Wilt Chamberlain used to say...."Nobody roots for Golaith..." One last thing please say abaayo instead of nayaa. There is no price tag on gentleness ya know!!
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| | Unrecorded Date To: Reedimeed Touche sister, this naayaa business is completely uncalled for. But the thing is where I grew up gentleness was seen as a sign of weakness and everybody would beat on you until you were as hard and unfeeling as everybody else. So you see I am nursing all these deep psychological wounds and sometimes I can come across as coarse and unrefined. You know what else, there was this girl I was dating one time(I had a job then) and I tried to be the caring New Man and I was saying abaayo and all that and then she cut me loose. Would not even return my calls. So I talked to her friend who introduced us in the first place. I asked what gives. She asked me if she could be frank with me and I said shoot and and that is when she spilled the beans. Apparently the girl was going around saying: War kanu waaba mid nacasaan u maleynayaa oo abaayo iyo walaalo iyo please-tisii baaban ka yaqyaqsooday. War wuxu dumar buu ku af bartay mise xiniinyaba ma leh miyaa. Shock and disbelief were doing the marathon on my face. Here I was trying to do right by my sister and I get branded as some kind of wimp. But you know what you can't let one person discourage you. When I get a job and get off the Internet and am back on the dating scene I will be that same gentle guy; call me a wimp, wuz or what you like I will be true to myself. And anyone who doesn't like it I am falalow oo is ilaali yaan qardhaas kuu duugine. I can even send it online, so my reach is global now.
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| | Unrecorded Date Reedimeed: Hudheydhka xagee ka keentay laakiin mise weli Siinaay waa furantahay lol.
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| | Unrecorded Date LOL!!!! WALLAL YOUR REALLY FOOL OF IT. MAYBE YOU SHOULD BE HONEST WITH YOUR SELF AND THE REST OF US ,AND AS FAR AS ME GIVING YOU MY E-MAIL SINCE YOU ASSUMED I WANTED YOU TAKE ME OUT WHY DON'T GET UP STOP STARRING AT THE COMPUTER AND GET A JOB THEN STEP TO . P.S DO SOMETHING FOR YOURSELF BEFORE YOU DO ME A FAVOR. HODAN
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| | Unrecorded Date TO HODAN SIS Don't listen to that freak your an educated girl you don't need an unemployed loser like himself ,and your right that is what is wrong with other bother they're so into themself , but I'm willing to admit that I want to take you out you seem like a nice educated girl, so can you e-mail I'm sure you won't feel confortable giving me yours , so sister I hope you e-mail me then I'll tell you all about myself thank you Mohamed_112@hotmail.com
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| | Unrecorded Date To: Hodan, illaahay ha ku hodmiyee. First of all I think that you missed the ironic thrust of my comment. It was in no way intended as a serious romantic proposition. I was merely illustrating how some brothers can come across as crude, overbearing and presumptuous. Please accept my humble and unreserved apologies if I caused you any offence. And if you doubt my words, would I tell the whole world I was an unemployed bum if I had serious intentions. Fact is my self-esteem is completely in the toilet and I couldn't approach a woman now, succesful, unsuccesful or any other kind -full for that matter. Besides which I will never pursue an online or blind-date romances on account of my, and there is no hiding from the truth, ugliness. There I said it. Runtii waxaan ahay nin aad u foolxun oo wejigayga ciyaalka yaryar baa lagu cabsiiyaa. Your uncle is coming is enough to stop my young nieces and nephews from misbehaving. As you can clearly see if I were to hit it off with a lady online and she sees me, need I say more. On the other hand if I meet a lady face-to-face there is no deceit there and she make her mind up right then and there and no one's feelings will be hurt. So Hodan raalli ahaw and good luck with your studies. Maxamed: Ninyohow nin kheyrlaawe ah baad tahay. War ninyohow haddaad gabadha damacday oo hunguri kaa galay why are you dragging me into it. Can't you try for a lady without putting down another brother, specially one who is already down on his luck? Soomaalidii hore sharci bay lahayd inaan ninka dhulka yaala aan la oof-wareemin. Gaaladu xitaa waxay tidhaadaa "Don't kick a man when he is down". Addigu laakiin sharcigii waad ku xad-gudubtay. Xaal weyn baa ku qabtay saaxiib ee arrintaa wax ka dheh.
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| | Unrecorded Date Gorgor Kaca la Mood, hudheydhka waxa laga soo diray meeshii la oran jiray "ku-dhaacda". Lol@@ at how your ex didn't appreciate a new age senstive guy.....ma nacas bay ku mooday gortaad naxaariis tuustay.....war qofta maxay ka sameeyeesned....ma dhagax???
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| | Unrecorded Date To All All I would say to you all is Naas fadiyiin wo malhumshi xaga tanya fii xayathoom.
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| | Unrecorded Date Lol@you Gorgor Kacay la Mood, funny! (why can't you get a shorten the handle?) BTW is gorgor an eagle or a vulture?
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| | Unrecorded Date Reedimeed you really wounded me by associating my name with the unsightly vulture(Xuunsho). Don't you know this filthy bird feeds on carrion. You really let the music die, sis. No, I was likening myself to the beguiling sight of the beautiful eagle in majestic flight, as it soars with grace and elegance. But somehow, mysteriously, people found the handle risible and an object of derision and amusement. So from now on my "nom de plume" will be Galaydh(hawk), fitting in its elegance. And suitably pugnacious to foil any would-be comedians. And short enough to accomodate your request, carrissima Reedimeed. What is more it continues the bird theme(What do you mean bird fetish? I don't have a bird fetish).
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| | Unrecorded Date Lol@you Galaydh,....nice handle, Mr. Ornithologist.... Forgive me for not having vocabulary as rich as yours!
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| | Unrecorded Date i was amused by the uncencored, frank and sometimes off-limits remarks yet funny and intelligent discussion that i am almost late for go work so please....keep on...and i am sure there is an audience like myself who can't wait to read what the next person has say.....
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| | Unrecorded Date LOL, you are absolutely right spectator what amusing discussions we have here! i can't wait to read what the next person has to say..
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| | Unrecorded Date What is wrong with you ppl?, I though this dicision was about why most somalia girls in north american arn't marry?, As of somalia girl, I think is becuase guys have high explanision on us, and we have high explantaion on them. For ex: you will see a guy who said, oh I want women who doesn't have family in African, where as most of his family is in african. or you will see a sister who will said, oh i want man who is educated, whereas she not educated at all. we need came down to real life ppl. We as somalias need to support each other. Help one and another. This is story that happened to one of my friend. She has all her family in American..uncles, aunts, brothers, sisters, granmother, name it she has all in here. so, this guys decieded that he wants to marry her, what did he do?, he went to her famliy and asked. when they came up to her, they said well, did you talk to her, and he rely no. toshortlongstory, she refuse. After awhile, ppl in the city found out. One I was site next to this women and she, only you know (her), she think is all that, most guys wants to marry, no for her look but because she has her famliy here. At the moment I relized that this women was right. Guys only want a girl who has no famliy in African, but most of have family in african, just because we ain't as lucky as my friend. As for my friend she wish she a family in african, so she can feel what it feel like to send money, or to get late phone call, write letters explain why you can't send money at the period. We think she lucky and she like well, I don't but she ain't happy about it. so, that problem is from the guys not the girls. good lucky.
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| | Unrecorded Date TO..FATIMA .....GORGOR ....REAL-DEAL ....HODAN ....XIRSI;;;;;;;; THANK YOU ALL FOR SPARING YOUR PRECIOUS TIME AND DROPPING THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS I POSED IN THIS FORUM.Basically qaad ,geographical location ,low self-esteem and laziness on the part of the MEN::: and pride and fantacizing about a white horsed princes,fear of being put in the kitchen and insecurity when it comes TO financial afairs on the part of the WOMEN are THE MAIN CAUSES OF THIS PHENOMENA THAT WE HAVE UNDER DISCUSSION HERE. THESE ARE NOT MY FEELINGS ON THE TOPIC BUT A SUMMARIZATION OF ALL THAT HAS BEEN SAID AND HOW I HAVE COME TO UNDERSTAND AND RECOGNIZE THE PROBLEM FROM ALL YOUR EXTENSIVE ANALYSIS ON AND OF THE TOPIC. so if i have made a just conclussion or have the right idea or vice -versa PLEASE WRITE THE SHORT COMINGS OF MY MY CONCLUSSION....all ideas costructive or other wise are welcome as long as cleanly statednothing vulgar.............................peace.
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| | Unrecorded Date The answer is simple and it applies both ways, the draught does not discriminate. We all are human beings who have the same wishes and desires. So for one to target a particular sex and place blame on them well that just starts a vicious cycle with no tangible solution, (i.e.) this discussion
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| | Unrecorded Date to woman 2ooo i am a 29 yaer old somali woman who has had the opportunity to get married and the better lukck to get a neat devorce. so this is the voice of wisdom! you are smart not to rush to marriage. you are young, you are intellegent, obviously edducated, so dear, the world is your oyster, therefore enjoy. and don't listen to the nay sayers of this world, they are just jelous. to those who would say i am bitter because i am a devorcee, well actually my ex and i are friends now that we are not married any more. so thank god for devorce papers. to t
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| | Unrecorded Date What I would say to all of you is and what I have gotten from this is that people are not following what is in their heart but instead thier head a simple answer to this problem is for once let your heart control your head and stop judging and start respecting it's about time don't you think ?
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| | Unrecorded Date thanx for the words of wisdom Happy Divorcee, and I agree with you 100%, I have couple of friend who are also enjoying their freedom and are on good terms with their Ex-s. forget what these "know-it-all" pple are saying, coz the truth of the matter is they dont know squat about anything other then, what they imagined the world to be, I'ld say they are suffering from delay shock to the civil war... I dont let my heart control me Anon, I use my head, but I do listen to what my Heart has to say also. Peace and Stay single
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| | Unrecorded Date the problem is we somalies don't know how to get to know one another but instead are into matrials , and I speak as a women when I say somali girls can't express how they feel intead all they do is play a game and only girls who play a game get played if you play a game that is what is missing from somali girls they have no meaning for the word affection , it's as if the guy is going to start disrespecting if she tells how she feels and that is something we somali women need to work on and as for the bother they seem alright to me except for the lost ones .so I say be true to you are a relationship takes two not one think about it bye Zainab
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| | Unrecorded Date Zainab, don't say that. What you say is not the whole truth. I expressed affection, didn't play games, but guess what I GOT PLAYED.
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| | Unrecorded Date Regardless of what your feeling are most somalia mans will always play you sis. I date a guy for 2 years and I got paly ok. I love him. I even though of getting marry. at least he say he was going to marry. When his cousin come, he marry her, coz she was relative to him. so sis, never said we somalia girls don't show their feels, i really did show him how much i love. Is normal sis, guys just wanna play games. Oh i can date her, or take her out. all that •••• if u know what i mean. So pls don't come out here, and leauctler us about getting play. MANS JUST WANNA PLAY GAME..U JUST HAVE TO BE BETTER THEN THEM.
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| | Unrecorded Date I am not talking about any particular person , I'm just giving my opinion on why somali girls aren't married if I offended someone I'm sorry for that and your right some guys do play nice girls who haven,t done anything.
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| | Unrecorded Date Ithink that Zainab Has a good point It's true somali girls that I have delt with had a atitude problem Act as if they hate you when they really love you and that is a serious communication problem on their part beacuse we have feelings too and actually want someone who want's us back not someone who acts all that and trying too hard to be hard to get Girls need to relise that if they show some love doesn't mean we'll lose respect for them , and their are the sick guys who think playing girls is a joke well all I have say about that is I hope you don't have a sisters because the example your setting for them is just horible. take care everyone Ahmed
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| | Unrecorded Date Zainab,,.... coming from a somali woman i never thought such words as/or to the same effect of SOMALI GIRLS ENJOY PLAYING THE BROTHERS..... well could be uttered and thought of by a somali girl......GIRL CHEERS ....CAUSE SOMALI GIRLS ARE TOO PROUD EVEN FOR THIER OWN......AND THAT YOU AS A GIRL BRING IT UP IS ....I8S BUT MUSIC TO MY EARS......and if you were here i would extend to you a pat in the back and respect .........sis you have made me a believer in somali girls again.....and that the real deal beauties with a pure thought and kind heart for thier men ARE STILL IN THE HOUSE.....zainab....you will succeed in an all somali value based happy marriage. ......................................AND TO HELL WITH THOSE "i am in america and have and am recieving an education so somali men watch out" kinna biatches ...to those kinna girls please go and date foriegners cause of what you are any somali man would not take you serious and wanna marry you . i mean for what you value your self on an all foriegn standard of gradation and school of thought ,thus making you an attractive and unappealing to a real somali man.tradition and up bringing make a woman what a woman really is.NOT CAUSE YOU GOT BOOPS AND THE MATCHING SET TO GO WITH THAT ..MAKES YOU A WOMAN...GIRLS BETTA RECOGNIZE ONLY PUNKS PLAY GIRLS .......MEN DONT AND ARE ALL AROUND IT IS JUST THAT MORE PUNKS THAT IS ALL......SO DONT CHECK YOUR SELF ON THIER LEVEL AND REMAIN IMMATURE MENTALLY BUT INFORCE STANDARDS OF A WOMAN ON YOURSELF AND BE TRUE TO YOUR ORIGIN AND TRADITION THUS HONOURING YOURSELF and then see if there are more flies around you or real MEN................................ AHMED................PIONT WELL MADE YOU SPEAK FOR ALL OF US .SERIOUS ONES. to all you w2000...and the rest girls open your eyes.
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| | Unrecorded Date somalman: WoooW! Stop right there. First of all don't generalize women in American into one category. It's like saying all you Somali men chew qat,drive cabs, have a gut sticking out-- the size of Alaska, and gossip like women. I think an apology is in order for those brave and educated Somali sisters who are actually pursuing there dreams rather than visualizing it in a coffee cup somewhere at a coffee house. Maybe you're one of those men who wants their women locked in the kitchen slaving over your meals while you screw other women. THAT AIN'T HAPPENIN' BRO MAN! You know what, why don't we make this argument fair and start on the same level. GO get your education and then we'll start arguing. Is that fair? Allah bless
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| | Unrecorded Date Hi brothers and sisters........ First thing is first, guys ..... sisters ,,,,, they are educated, I am not lying but I am student for myself, and Everytime I go to the Library, all I see is sisters studying, working hard, where is are brother's.......... I gues they chewing Qaad, and most of the brothers I know they don't go to school, they're working parking, work is good, but still we are not in the third world, we have a free education and I think we have a good opurtunity. I am single, but Getting married is not easy, before you get married think, not once but twice. And you know what else, I wouldn't ask my husband, expensive wedding if we can't afford why bother, Sharaton Hotel Etc. I rather buy a House and a car, I think it is very important to buy a House instead rent a Metro House and leave there for ever. So I think we need to wake up ... Love ya all Bye sisters and Brohters
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| | Unrecorded Date Hi all, From the Somali woman's point of veiw. specially, todays woman. Most Somali men don't want anything out of life, nor that they have a goal in life. Most of them are content with the way their misrable and undignifying life is. Wherease, most Somali women even though they have been deprived of eduction and encouragement, they try to make the best out of their situation - work, study, or even baby sit. Can you tell me what do Somali men do, or what have they ever done. Most Somali women especially the progressive ones, don't want to be married to a man who does not take care of his personal hygien, most of them when one passes them by the road they smell like hell, and have unmaintained teeth, uncombed hair, and for the most part they can't even recall when was the last time they went to the Hair Cutter for a trim. That is a terrible thing to imagine, waking up next to a DAWACO COOFLEH..LOL. Would you introduce that creature to your mother??? I don't think so. Hoyaadaa baad kaga nixinaysaa. Somali women have woken up and they know better now not to put up or marry a guy who chews qaat all night, and sleeps all day, and at the end he expects his bed to be made and.....They need to wake up and smell the roses...nothing comes for fee. Too baaaad for Somali men.. What a waste!!!!
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| | Unrecorded Date I assume that at least all of you have some kind of primary or high school education. Yet I can't believe my eyes! Some of you jump to such narrow conclusions with out even considering what you saying. The word "Somali men or Somali women" applies to millions of people. Among them are good and bad people. I am not a psychiatrist, but I can clearly see that among you little knowledge is playing great role when most of you made such conclusions. Come on lets be more realistic, how can someone come up here and write "nimanka somalida oo dhan waa saan mise naagaha somalida oo dhan waa sidan". When analyzing such issues, one is not suppose to come up here and say "oh, taasaa aniga saas ay igu suubisey or arkaas suu ii galey, weligey nin somali ma la igu ag arkaayo", all these comments are more opinionated. They are not spotting the initial arguments main points either do they recognize the assumptions that lie behind it. Most of you don't understand the meaning of a statement that, the sense of what necessarily follows from a given statement as distinguished from what a statement merely suggests without proof. I am not trying to teach you to be critical thinkers here, but just pointing out how most of you have been influenced by your own personal opinions. Now let me go back to the main topic: The answer is very simple here, so many Somali men and Somali women are not married simply because we don't have goals that are more realistic to accomplish. We all want to land on the moon, which is quite impossible to do. So we have to reevaluate our goals and edit them to more realistic and make sure they are compatible to one another. We are all grown ups, who know what we can accomplish in life. Baka.
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| | Unrecorded Date Hi brothers and sisters, To : concerned girl, i really have to disagree with you there i don't know which country you are from, but from what i have personally seen from the somalian brothers is very encouraging a lot of them are attending universities, infact over the last three years the number of somalian guys at my university have doubled. I think this shows that we somalian men are begining to wake up and realize our goals and ambitions. You are right about the point that a lot of somalian guys are in a bad situation, with no certainty with their future but also you need to broaden your knowledge about us because a lot of us are quite ambitious, focused and know what we want to get out of our life. I would also kindly ask you not to reffer to all somalian men as a waste, i guess it just goes to show that you may have come across the wrong type of brothers! that is all i have to say concerned girl
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| | Unrecorded Date To concerned girl,it will be better if we start with your father,uncle and brothers assuming you have them, what do they do,what have they achieved in life?
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| | Unrecorded Date Kutubeey Waa Tanaa Dalmar As Your Name Explains A Traveler Who've Been Around The World Like A RoadRunner Found Out Great Amount Of Single Women -Whom Are Waiting Their Hands To Be Held By Somali Men-. Hmmmm But Don't You Think You Only Encountered Women. What About SSM (Somali Single Men)? - Whom Have Completly Forgotten About Their Life And Drowned Into The Depth Atlantic Ocean- Well..That's Very Sad In Our Community, Isn't It? And It Might Be Bigger Than What You And I Think. Okay Let Me Come Back To What I Wanted To Say I, Myself, Think Women Should Stay In A Single Life And Let Their Biological Clock Ticks Than To Be In Unhappy Marriage. Lately, As We All Know It, In Our Community Marriage Decreased While Divorce Was Increasing Highly Coz Of Inadvertently Chosen Wrong Partners. Isn't Marriage Supposed To Be Combination Of Both FUN And HAPPY?? What Some Of Women And Men Want Is To Get The State Of Marrying Only Once During Their Lifetime And Pleasantly Continue Staying In It The Rest Of Their Life. Isn't That What You Call A Healthy Marriage? Having The Quality That Tends To Give The Pleasure You-I-They-He-She-We Are Craving While Others Just Want To Marry Someone Opposite Their Sex By Not Thinking Of The Consequence It Carries Or Behind It. They Do That Because They Just Want To Get The Label Of Being Married Or Called Married Guy/Gal.. That's Why Marriage Falls Apart And We Afraid To Take That Big Steps. Okay I Admit That We All 'Men and Women' Have Our Inconsolidate differences.. We 'Women' Blame Our Somalian Brothers For Not Taking Their Parts Of Being A Real Man. On The Other Hand, Men Blame To Us By Being Hard On Them And Expecting Everything From Them. Don't Take Me Wrong When I Say That I'm Simply Emphasizing The Fact And The Problem That Lies In Between Us. Well, Few Men And Women Are Exceptional And Where Are They?? We All Say (Blah Blah Blah) They Are Either In Monogamous Relationships Or They Are Happily Married And Having Kids...(Cool....). I Guess I've Talked Too Much Now Let Me Make The Long Blah Blah Short And Smooth. Okay, The Question Here Is Who Is To Be Blamed And Not To? Hmmm BLAME BLAME !! I Wonder When We Are Going To Stop Blaming One Another. Wouldn't It Be Great If We Stop This Bull Shitting And Stabbing Each Other's Back By Saying Bad Things From The Opposite Sex? Like It Or Not These Problems Between Us Won't Go Away Unless We Make Them Disappear...HOW??? Next Episode!!! Kutubeey Waa Qul Qushay
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| | Unrecorded Date somalis men ain't good enough for somali woman , wait? is something wrong with dis picture , ah hell no , it is all rite, well sis if wat u are trying to prove is dat u are too good for us , well let me say dis , yes u r , way too good , da somali woman is da pomp ,is dat a word? ,u r everything , da beauty , da mind n da queen , well almost every sister in dis forum seems to despise da somali man , well sisters , there is simple solution, how about disclaiming us , dissociate ur self from male dominant somalia ,seeking ur future in non-somali patners, leaving us in self pity ,angry , dismayed ,miserable ,so most of us could continuing chewing chat , drinking bear ,n leading a miserable bachelor life, n u could be living da goals u set for ur self , so far da only we get in common(at least those who have written da above massages) is da word "somali" , how about erasing dat word from ur mind ,pretending it never existed in ur mind , so it could be more easy for u to fit in dis secular , liberal so called free world , well u must saying iam high on something , i bet u r rite , well wat u know iam dat skinny low life somali man , yeah iam high, i have been doing some coctailing lately , wat was dat i was mixing? a herione , from india or wait a coke from da bolivian high grounds in latin amreica , wait dis is not me , it is da brother next door , ah dat son of bitch pyscatharist must have given da wrong bills , do my health insurance cover dat? wait i don't have one , well iam same old somali (man) loser , well sisters , i don't understand why u care about how we feeel ,u r a free woman , makes choices , in fact be an example for all other sisters , help them in their quest ,make sure they don't end with a somali man , well as for somali sisters in somalia , well we could help them by eliminating them so dat they freed from miseries , since we are self-destructive society ,well lets continue dat , starvation , guns , diseases have killed so many , n with invasion of AIDS virus , many more will die , well da few left could be eliminated , perhaps we could use anthrax to finish them off ,saddam could lend us a hand in obtaining few litres of anthrax , dat should enough to wipe da leftovers , well as for those in da west , da sisters can run off with non-somali guy n da bro should continue living in their miserable bachelor life , n da land of somalia could be claimed by ethopia or kenya , or perhaps it could a dump site for toxic wastes , da name "somali" shouldn't be only erased in our minds but in da world, in dis way da sisters can achieve their goals n da bro live their lives , n dus comes da end of the somali race , just like da Aztecs , da Maya , Mohicans , da Phoraohs ,etc , i guess dis could be portrayed in a hollywood epic movie , ha wat should i called it , " the last of the somali" how does dat sound? , so people let's dream dat , girls don't settle with somali loser , go for da finer , well i guess u would say iam nuts' crazy , foolish n da list goes on , wait am i really crazy , stupid , ignorant , selfconsumed , rejected ,insane , hypocratic , undesirable, filthy , unattarctive ,ha do i suffer from multiple personality disorder , or i just lash agianst others so dat i could feel better , wat am i ? , simple a skinny somali man , only despair or hopelessness written on my face , so gals , keep away , oo man i need see to dat docter agian , by da way all comments , good n bad chaw
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| | Friday, August 04, 2000 - 06:39 am go sami , go sami , go sami , ditch da biaaaachtes ladies in da forum, forget our freaking somalia, n go with da monkey boys
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| | Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 01:21 pm To My Friend DALMAR... I don't want to say your conclusion is incorrect,but I guess you miss 1 very Important point which is required culturally and Religionly. Most of somali girls are untilored now a days, and as far as this is concerened you have seen in this discussion some one promoting clubbing and dating before marriege, this is alien to our wishes and life, and against our principle if the Girl is not Virgin, no body will approach her for a proposing, let alone marriage, If she lost her virginity through clubbing or sleeping around she has no dignity, reputation and she is dirty to have her or to marry her,yes I do feel sorry for those who are in this catigory and I prey for them, but it's their faults. My freind Dalmar this is not the medieval times, but we have Religion which never changes. that is why you see many unmarried girls around, I won't even look at them, for get about any thing else.. peace
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| | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 09:02 am this is to guleed... heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy wait up bro..........this is what?year 2000,,and we live outside countries which have different culture and maybe not even a religion.it seems to me that ur one of the sick head boys (somalian) and u know why i said,is because all u talk about was if a somalian women go clubing or sleeps with men (she is this she is that she lost this she lost that),,,honey i myself am a virgin but i am here for the name of somalian womem (virgin or not virgin) ok,,and i beleive if a women sleeps without marriage HER CHOISE just as much as men's where they have freedom and choice.u talk about culure and religion,,,,more 75% of somalian men have lost their virginty b4 marriage and most of them to non somalian,,,,,so plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz stopthis ••••,,,,do us (somalian woman) a favor and stop making somalian woman more then what there is to it coz these women who sleep with men without marriage @@@@@ they are just doing what their brother 's(somalian men) did long time ,something called having fun. honey wake up and smell the coffeeeeeeeeeee. this to the somalian women i beleive that we need to look at ourself and say are these somalian men(mooryaan/marqaanyaal)gonna keep on classifying us for God know how many more years? we need to see where the trouble is coming from and it isn't certainly from women it is from THE BOYS.so ladies it is about time we tell the boys to start acting like men and stop acting like boys,,(not all somalian men are losser******** aight)i beleive one in a million and i found the one in a million,so ladies don't give up on our brothers.
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