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SomaliNet Forum (Archive): General Discusions: Archive (May 2000 - August 2000): Xamardaye,Wartasuuqa,kooca,Mim and Noofowkaniini,I miss you all
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mOwLiD-mAcAaNe

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On the verge collapse, it was very bad week for us, indeed we have to sack all Forum employee.
that might rule finding credible and formidable web for long term task.

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mOwLiDmAcAnE

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waxaan ku arkay qolka neefow kaniini labo qoraal oo dad hore meelo kale ku qoreen oo inta la soo guuriyey magacayga cinwaan looga dhigay waxay igu noqotay argagax, mase hubo inay tahay farsamo xumo dhinaca forumka ah iyo shirqool larabo inaan cago cadaan kaga baxo forumka!?
by mOwLiD-mAcAaNe

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mOwLiDmAcAnE

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waxaan ku arkay qolka neefow kaniini labo qoraal oo dad hore meelo kale ku qoreen oo inta la soo guuriyey magacayga cinwaan looga dhigay waxay igu noqotay argagax, mase hubo inay tahay farsamo xumo dhinaca forumka ah iyo shirqool larabo inaan cago cadaan kaga baxo forumka!?
by mOwLiD-mAcAaNeOn the verge collapse, it was very bad week for us, indeed we have to sack all Forum employee.
that might rule finding credible and formidable web for long term task.

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mOwLiDmAcAnE

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macalinka mingis aa ku haayee dooro la qalay dhigeed ku qubeeso.

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hebel

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ku:Walaalkey Mowliid Macaane , Xamardaye, NeefoowKaniin, MiM, Warta Suuqa ,Qumayo,Kuuseey, Kabeebeey,KutubeeyDhammaan dhallinyarta saaxiibyaasheey ah,,

Walaalayaaloow Warridkiin wax kama sheegi kariye Ilaahay ajar iyo xasanaad ha idin siiyo.

Anigu waan dhagaystay cajaladaha, bal waxaan dhagaystay kuwa dhiigga culummada lagu bannaystay,
Waxaana aan hubaa in dr dusuqi aad iyo aad loogu xad gudbay, xiqdi iyo xaasidnimo loo qabayna lagu gaaleeyay laguna bannaysanayo dhiiggiisa?

Bal waxaa naxdin leh in lagu soo gabbanayo difaaca diinta islaamka iyo sharafta Nebiga (SAW).

Waa dad u cad yahay meel kale.
Tusaale: Waxaan dhageystay shiikh lamagac baxay sh.Shibile oo Holland ka duubay cajal Fiidiyow ah oo ku magacaabay "khaladaadka Islaax". Ma aha khaladaadka Dusuqi iwm, bal waa tan Xarakada Islaax" Taasi waxay si fudud inoo tusaysaa "waxaa uu yahay hadafkiisu iyo cidda uu dan leeyahay", laakiin waxaa ayaan darro ah in lagu soo dhuunto "difaaca sharafta Nebiga (SAW)".
Illaa uu ninkaasi gaarsiiyay in xarakada oo dhammi Caqiidadeeda aysan toosnayn (muslimba ku jirin).
Intaa kuma ekaysan ee waxaa uu raadiyay culummo hore buugaag ay qoreen, ka dib waxaa uu ka dhex raadiyay wixii sixid u baahan, waxaana uu ka tegay wixii sax ah, wixii wanaag ahaa, dadaal ahaa, bal jihaad ahaa ay culumadaasi sameeyeen. Markuu sh.shibile soo ururiyay meelahaas sixidda u baahan, ayuu huwiyay shaqsiyadda qofkii qoraalkaas qoray, illaa uu ka dhigay inuusan ba wax wanaag ahba lahayn, bal diinta cadaw ku yahay.
Wuxuu ku gabagabeeyay sidatan:

Ka dib markii uu sh.shibile micno dhanka xun ah saaray hadalladii sh. Dusuqi ayuu wuxuu afkiisa ku xukumay dil iyo in dhiiggiisa la daadiyo.
Waxaa uu baarbaaray buugaag ay culumo hore ay qoreen (balse ra'yigooda un ah), wuxuuna kala soo baxay qoraalladii uu doonayay:
Tusaale: wuxuu ku soo gabagabeeyay sidatan:

Nin hebel (shawkaani) ayaa wuxuu buuggiisa ku qoray: In qofkii nebiga caaya waa in la dilaa.
Hadduu ula jeeday waa in la dilaa. Hadduusan ula jeedin waa in la dilaa. hadduu tawbad keeno waa in la dilaa. hadday dawlad jirto waa inay dishaa. Haddaysan dawlad jirin waa qofkii arkaa dilaa.
hadduusan hadalka ula kac u oran waa in la dilaa.
sh. shible waxaa uu intaa ku daray "Dusuqi waa in dilaa, hala dilo mar dhaw, ama hala dilo mar dambe, bal waa in la dilaa ".

Ilaahaybaa idiinku dhaarshay taasi ma diin difaacid baa ? In qof uu si xun u macnaysto qof kale hadalkiis isla markaana uu dil ku xukumo ?
Sh. shibile xaggee buu jiray markii ay ITIXAAD-ku maatada iyo waayeelka iyo caruurta muslimiinta ah ee gaajaysnayd qudha ka wada jareen, ka dib markii ay u hogaansami waayeen "siyaasadda itixaadka"?
Muxuu wax uga oran waayay? Muxuu diinta islaamka iyo amarkii Nebiga (SAW)u difaaci waayay ? Maxaa maanta soo saaray magiciisa ? balse waxaa hubaal ah in uu Dusuqi iyo al-islaax ba ahaayeen ciddi markaa qaylisay oo tiri "dadka ha daayo, yaan la dilin dadka muslimiinta ah ", Illaa ay islaax duruuftu ku qasabtay inay is-muujiyaan oo ay dadka ku yiraahdaan "dadoow waxa magaca ilaah dhiiggiina ku daadinaya , waayeelkana ku dilaya ma aha wadaaddada oo dhan, Innagu waxaa nala yiraahdaa Al-islaax, in la idin dulmiyana ma doonayno", waana marxaladdii loo bixiyay marxalatul tamyiis (kala bixii). Sabata ku kalliftayna waxay ahayd "in dadku diintaba ka cararin". Maanta ayaa waxay keentay in arrinku aar goosi gaaray, illaa maanta mar labaad la bannaysanayo dhiigga culummadii shalay difaacaysay maatadii muslimminta ahayd ee soomaaliyeed, iyadoo loogu gabbanayo "difaaca diinta islaam iyo sharafta Nebiga (sAW).

Waad mahadsan tihiin.

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mOwLiDmAcAnE

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Asalama Alaykum All!

As we have known for a while, South Mogadishu is having Islamic Movements(millitants, courts, etc) And now we hear that Merka and its area are having the light, also. Read on:

"Islamic Courts Play Bigger Role in Somalia!

MOGADISHU (Oct. 29) XINHUA - The popularity of the Islamic courts has rocketed in chaotic Somalia following crackdown on bandits and illegal roadblocks.

Large demonstrations were held Friday in port town of Merca, 120 Km south of the capital, in support for the islamic courts. Sheikh Dahir Hassan Gutaleh, deputy chairman of the Sharia implementation council, told the crowd that they had no political agenda, but just to create a safe environment for the common people to conduct their usual businesses.

A eyewitness in the town said he felt that there's nothing worse than lawlessness. According to eyewitnesses in Merca town, hundreds of militiamen from the Islamic courts, all in green uniforms and tarnished scarves round their neck and head, strengthened their positions around the port and the police station of the town.

The Islamist militiamen have further spread their influence and power to some of the neighboring districts and villages so as to consolidate their presence in Lower Shabelle region where over 36 illegal roadblocks which hindered the business activities have been washed away.

While the Islamic courts in South Mogadishu are effectively dealing with the insecurity along the roads between Mogadishu and the southern regions, the sixth Islamic court in South Mogadishu was founded by the Sheikhal clan Thursday.

More than six battle wagons and 90 trained militiamen have been donated to the new Islamic institution by its sympathizers as the first round of contribution.

During its inauguration attended by more than 600 guests from the other Islamic courts, Sheikh Nur Ali Osman, its chairman, said his men would apply the security building measures taken by the sister courts in both sides of the capital." By Hiiraan Online!

...May God give us the light of Islam! Amen!


Blessed BE!

Peace, MowliidMacaane

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Geesi

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hadalku dhankuu u jeedaa dhankuusee kajeeda???!

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Warta suuqa

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mOwLiDmAcAaNe;

SXB... waa kuu joognaa dhammaan inkastoo farsamada ay yara qaldaneed maalmahaan sida aan qabo. Sxb ayaamihi hore way soo noqon doonaan haduu ilaahay yiraahdo.

Mowlid, sxb.. ma waxay rabaan sidi CiiseRooti ineey suuqa kaa saaraan oo kawaanka lagu keeno.


Hebel,

R U sure you are hebel !? I can't believe this! a full page essay from hebel at one time!! And your blue thing ,, a aah. I don’t get it. Something must be wrong.

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Mariah

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Warta that is exacly what I was going to say about hebel...A full page...unbeliavable.....

What happened hebel you find out you were going to die or something...

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Xamardaye

Saturday, June 17, 2000 - 01:39 am
hebel,waxaa ii muuqdo hebel oo gar iyo gafuur deestay.
warta,waxaa ii muuqdo warta oo gar iyo gafuur
iska xiiray.
mowliid,waxaa ii muuqdo mowliid oo wareeray.
n.kaniini,waxaa ii muuqdo kaniini oo maxkamad
soo saaray maamulka forumka.
mim,waxaa ii muuqdo mim oo qoor sagaaro lagu haayo.
ee saan u qoslay,iga tag qosolkaas ayaaba igu baaqan lahaaye,la'aantiin abaaaaaaaaaaaaaar.


nabad iyo caano

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NeefoowKaniini

Saturday, June 17, 2000 - 10:02 am
,,,,,,,Xamardayana wax ku sheeg hee anaaba liiga furfuri la'yahay e

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hebel

Saturday, June 17, 2000 - 02:52 pm
mariah this is nothing but a super cell woman...IM having a out of body experiance here.

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Wata Suuqa

Sunday, June 18, 2000 - 03:38 am
Hey Guys I would like you all to participate this Idea or a debate oo aan is iri can be a good system for our reer guuraa, dowlad diid Soomaali oo ka dhan ah a lot of other western systems


.......A..N..A..R..C..H..I..S..M

Anarchism is a political philosophy that embraces democracy and freedom, and seeks to destroy all forms of coercion and oppression. The root of human oppression is seen as authority and inequality. This is why it is the perfect ideological guide for destroying poverty, racism, and sexism. All these oppressions are systems of power based on hierarchy. Hierarchy means top-down, like a pyramid. Hierarchical constructions of power create positions of relative privilege and relative oppression. Capitalism, Isgumeysi, and patriarchy (male supremacy) are also top-down constructions of power. Anarchism conceptualizes power differently. Instead of power over, anarchism proposes power with, cooperation. This means that social systems and institutions should be based on cooperation. Power would rest in individuals and the collectives they freely associate into.

Anarchism revolves around five basic principles: 1) equality; 2) democracy; 3) free association; 4) mutual aid; 5) diversity. Equality can have many different meanings. In regards to our anarchist political philosophy, we speak of equality in reference to power. This doesn't mean we want a new society based on a totalitarian vision of everyone looking and acting the same, in fact we see strength in diversity. Instead we mean that everyone should have equal access to power, to determine how he or she wants to live his or her lives. The best way for equal power to be institutionalized is through different forms of democracy.

Democracy is a vague notion, but in general it seeks to empower everyone to have an equal say in decisions that affect their lives. This is only useful if it extends to all areas of social life. Capitalism is undemocratic, especially when combined with racism and sexism.

Free Association is the idea that individuals should not be forced into social arrangements against their will. In the world today if you are born into poverty, most likely you will die in poverty. For the first time in American history children cannot expect to live at a higher standard than their parents. [In an anarchist society] collectives will be created for every purpose humanly desired, of people freely associated with equal power to determine its future. This vision extends to all forms of social arrangements - from your neighborhood, to your city, to your neighborhood restaurant, etc.

Many critics of anarchism accuse us of excessive localism. We understand that with increased technology our lives around the globe are inextricably linked. We believe that power must be based in the grassroots, and that organizations should flow from the ground up, but we understand that our focus must be global. For larger forms of organization beyond the local level we advocate federations of free collectives. These could coordinate things as diverse as waste management, computer technology, natural resources, defense, or production. They would be based on the same anarchist principles; but would operate with delegates from collectives, as opposed to all the members of each collective. Delegates, in an anarchist conception, are not career politicians, but members temporarily chosen to represent a collective on a specific issue.

The last two principles go together. Mutual aid is another word for cooperation, but it has a more specific meaning. Mutual aid would be the cultural ideal, in opposition to competition. When people work together they can accomplish much more than when they work against each other. Social organizations should embrace and encourage this. It may seem like common sense, but when you look around all you see is how we are constantly pitted against each other. Once again this doesn't mean anarchists seek to stifle creativity and individual excellence, but we do hope to spread it out, and allow everyone to chase their dreams.

Diversity is the key to survival in the future. The modern drive to standardize everything and apply the assembly line to all aspects of social life has left many alienated and hopeless. It has also been key to destroying our natural environment. Diversity is a form of organization that is more organic. Instead of trying to make reality conform to state bureaucrats conceptions of order through imposition of their authority; anarchists realize that social organizations function more effectively for the people involved in them if those same people have the power to shape them in ways they desire. So anarchists support diverse forms of democracy, family organization, production, dancing, loving, eating, whatever. Diverse organization is not always efficient, but we must question the importance of efficiency. Efficiency has never been for us. We work harder and get paid less. When we grow food in an efficient way, the path to that efficiency was the removal of land from everyday people to a Dowladda for profit. Examples proliferate. When people live diversely they interact in a way similar to nature. They also become more difficult to rule. They become free........


Warta Suuqa
Mowliid iyo Neefoow warkiin keene hee

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NeefoowKaniini

Sunday, June 18, 2000 - 04:00 am
,,,,,Warta Suuqa hoooy Aniga hee Warkaagan badan akhriskiisa inaan tabar u haayeey kula tahay,,,Horayse kuu sheegeen inaad Siyaasi mug hore ahayd oo haddana maha wax lagu qaybsaayo Jabuuti aad ka soo gafuur xumeyd aasey bacdigeed isku duwe kaa dhigteen ,,,,,yaayah Xumoo gafuur Dhuuban yahoow war aa ku dooxee Yaasiinka ammaan kaa saarnaa berga cullimo maha waa ku soo badatee kii XamarDaye ahaay iyo Walbehe Hebel oo usna kuwii Sarwaal Gaabka ahaay ee walax dhaaxaad is qaraayay meha Tasliyo ha ku saareen,,,,...


,,,,Aniga hee maheygii aan heesaha nooga sii wadaa inkastoonan barga Cali Jareeri heynin Eebahay naxariisti janaat ha siiyee ku kalaan maha ku soo durqinaa,,,,,Boqorkii Codka iyo Maxamad Saleemaan,,,,,



Dhool da’ay la moodyeey
Waan kugu dhadhabayaayeey 2
Dharaartaynu kulanaa
Dhulku ila wareegee 2
Dhimasho iyo nolol
Wali kala dhexjoogaa 2
Dhankii aad marisaba
Kuu dhiibay taladee 2
Adna haygu dheerayn
Dhibatadan I haysoo 2
Ii soo dhaweeyoo
Aan dhamayno xaajada 2
Dhebi baxay la moodyeey
Waan kaa dhursugayaayee 2
Dhawaaqaan jeclaystaan
Dhakhso kaaga filayaa 2
Dhayal haw malaynine
Wayga dhab caashaquye 2
Wadnahay ii dhufanayoo
Dhiigayga dhiigayga nuugayee 2
Adna haygu dheerayn
Dhibatadan I haysoo 2
Ii soo dhaweeyoo
Aan dhamayno xaajada 2
Dhal wadaad la moodyeey
Indhahaa ku dheygagayeey 2
Dhabaanada hillaaciyo
Dhoola ka qosolkaagee 2
Dhaqaaq joogsigaygaa
Dhallaanku illa yaabaa 2
Yuu ku dhaafin hadalkuye
II dhega ii nugloowoo
Adna haygu dheereyn
Adna haygu dheerayn
Dhibatadan I haysoo
Dhibatadan i haysoo
Ii soo dhaweeyoo
Aan dhamayno xaajada
Aan dhamyno Xaajada

Neefoowkaniini

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Warta suuqa

Sunday, June 18, 2000 - 04:18 am
War inleen anagaa balaaya aragnay oo ibtila maqalnay !!!

Ar anoo siyaasad iyo xukunka ka hadlaa xagee lagu arkay aqyaareey ? !!

And due to the confusion week of Somalinet admin. hadaan is dhihi lahaa forumka waxbaa wali ka qaldan waxbay ahaan lahayd. Laakin hadda waxaa ii cadaatay inay jiraan dad raba inay inaga eryaan meesha.. Sidaan Jamaal4 ugu sheegayba waxaan si deg deg uga fariisan doona forumka intaan koofi la'aan la idirin.

Whom ever you are, make sure you wont forget "r" for Warta next time? Coz I never ever did in this forum's life.

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NeefoowKaniini

Sunday, June 18, 2000 - 04:54 am
,,,,,,,,Warta heey hadda i soo galli hee Shalay waa maqlay maxruugoo aad is hesheene oo gar maqaata ah,,,,,,,,anni welli waa hurdooyaa Caawa dhan aan waxaan la yaabanaa waxan aad ka hadleyso adoo hadda tafaaful iyo siyaasad galay ,,,,,,,,ama dardarsha isugu kaaya keen ,,


neefoowkaniini,,,jawaab deg deg ah aan kaa helo intaanan tagin dardarsha

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NeefoowKaniini

Sunday, June 18, 2000 - 05:00 am
,,,,,,,,Warta heey hadda i soo galli hee Shalay waa maqlay maxruugoo aad is hesheene oo gar maqaata ah,,,,,,,,anni welli waa hurdooyaa Caawa dhan aan waxaan la yaabanaa waxan aad ka hadleyso adoo hadda tafaaful iyo siyaasad galay ,,,,,,,,ama dardarsha isugu kaaya keen ,,


neefoowkaniini,,,jawaab deg deg ah aan kaa helo intaanan tagin dardarsha

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Wata Suuqa

Sunday, June 18, 2000 - 05:06 am
,,,,,,Oooops Guys i forget to tell u that there is and will be some other guys who imporsanate me to not say what i want to say,,,,,like the guy imporsanating me !!!!!!!for the time being,,..


Warta Suuqa LONDON,,,,,,,,


[W]hoever desires liberty, should understand these vital facts, viz.: 1. That every man who puts money into the hands of a "government" (so called) puts into its hands a sword which will be used against himself, to extort more money from him, and also to keep him in subjection to its arbitrary will. 2. That those who will take his money, without his consent, in the first place, will use it for his further robbery and enslavement, if he presumes to resist their demands in the future. 3. That it is a perfect absurdity to suppose that any body of men would ever take a man's money without his consent, for any such object as they profess to take it for, viz., that of protecting him; for why should they wish to protect him, if he does not wish them to do so?... 4. If a man wants "protection," he is competent to make his own bargains for it; and nobody has any occasion to rob him, in order to "protect" him against his will. 5. That the only security men can have for their political liberty, consists in their keeping their money in their own pockets, until they have assurances, perfectly satisfactory to themselves, that it will be used as they wish it to be used, for their benefit, and not for their injury. 6. That no government, so called, can reasonably be trusted for a moment, or reasonably be supposed to have honest purposes in view, any longer than it depends wholly upon voluntary support.


Walaakiin Warta Suuqa

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Wata Suuqa

Sunday, June 18, 2000 - 05:09 am
,,,,,,Oooops Guys i forget to tell u that there is and will be some other guys who imporsanate me to not say what i want to say,,,,,like the guy imporsanating me !!!!!!!for the time being,,..


Warta Suuqa LONDON,,,,,,,,


[W]hoever desires liberty, should understand these vital facts, viz.: 1. That every man who puts money into the hands of a "government" (so called) puts into its hands a sword which will be used against himself, to extort more money from him, and also to keep him in subjection to its arbitrary will. 2. That those who will take his money, without his consent, in the first place, will use it for his further robbery and enslavement, if he presumes to resist their demands in the future. 3. That it is a perfect absurdity to suppose that any body of men would ever take a man's money without his consent, for any such object as they profess to take it for, viz., that of protecting him; for why should they wish to protect him, if he does not wish them to do so?... 4. If a man wants "protection," he is competent to make his own bargains for it; and nobody has any occasion to rob him, in order to "protect" him against his will. 5. That the only security men can have for their political liberty, consists in their keeping their money in their own pockets, until they have assurances, perfectly satisfactory to themselves, that it will be used as they wish it to be used, for their benefit, and not for their injury. 6. That no government, so called, can reasonably be trusted for a moment, or reasonably be supposed to have honest purposes in view, any longer than it depends wholly upon voluntary support.


Walaakiin Warta Suuqa

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NeefoowKaniini

Sunday, June 18, 2000 - 06:06 am
,,,,,,,Warta Walax dhaaxaan he dadka u sheegeenay inaad he isku dabaridaha Shirka Jabuuti aad tahay ee maanta waaba aad is celin weydayee ii Kistoo hee noo soo Xariiq hoosta iskala soconee,,,,,,Ar waa ku ibtiladaas iyo Dowlad naca ee iskala aala,, Ku Caqligaas,,,,,

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Xamardaye

Sunday, June 18, 2000 - 08:22 am
Warta,
kini dhaaxaa waa na foorjeeysay,
xamardaye oo farnsiis ku hadlaayo adaa sheegay,
ee warta oo siyaada iyo doowlad ka hadlaayo ka waran,eeboow ilmo towfiiq meel kasto waa joogaan
ee qeeylada dhaaf oo dulqaado.

nabad iyo caano

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Warta suuqa

Wednesday, June 21, 2000 - 06:24 am
Ar ilma Tawfiiq aan meelaan ka galo la'ahay aniga yaaqay.. ar hadaad saaxibadeey tihiin gargaar hala ilasoogaaro.

Warta