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SomaliNet Forum (Archive): Somali Women's Forum: Archive (Before Feb. 16, 2001): WHY SOMALI WOMEN ARE NOT WEARING HIJAAB ANY MORE
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JMAAAAL

Friday, January 19, 2001 - 09:25 pm
H I MY BELOVED SISTER I WONDER WHY NOW DAYS SOMALI WOMEN START TO HATE WEARING HIJAAB THEY LOOK FOR EXCUSE FOR NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND A JOB OR THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN NOT GET A MAN , I THINK THAT IS NOT TRUE, OR AT LEAST I AM WRONG.
SOMALI SISTERS SHOULD NOT ASHAMED WEARING WHAT THEY CONSIDER MORALLY CORRECT. I DO NOT LIKE SEE THOSE SISTERS WHO CONSIDER THEMSELVES CUTE BY DRESSING LIKE WESTERN, AND TRY HARD TO DISCOURAGE SISTERS FROM WEARING HIJAAB,
I FEEL BAD WHEN I SAW SOME WEAK SISTERS WEARING PANTS.
SISTERS SORRY FOR ANY INCONVEINCE
JMAAAAAAL

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Lakergirl

Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 07:19 am
jamaal

why are you not wearing underwear anymore?

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Anonymous

Monday, January 22, 2001 - 08:29 pm
JAMAL!!
LET'S LEAVE THE WOMEN ISSUES FOR THE WOMEN. IT'S NOT YOUR PLACE TO SAY ANYTHINK IN THE MATTER. IT'S THE WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE. THE CONSEQUENSES ARE BETWEEN HER AND "ALLAH". MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

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Amazon XX

Tuesday, January 23, 2001 - 05:06 am
Jamaal- it depends on where you hang out! If you are with honorable women- they will be dressed as honorable women.
Case Closed.

A Question: Why are you worried about what women wear! Their dress/ or lack therof/ is between Allah and them. There really isn't much room for anyone else. Unless you are thinking about picking up the "hijaab" for yourself.
LOL!

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LELA

Tuesday, January 23, 2001 - 05:26 pm
i like to say this to jamaal when did we wear xijab in our homeland??? Married women wore the big garbarsar and the young unmarried wore their hair braided. So its only after the civil war that somalis took on to be more religious after suffering so much. And by the way i don't believe the xijaab is apart of covering ur self because what is wrong with our hair. Its their to protect our delicate and precious brains. So bro u talking as if somali women have done such a great sin when my mother, grandmother, great grandmother, great great great grandmother never wore xijab.
P.S. I REALLY THE WOMEN'S FORUM THERE R SOME REALLY INTERESTING MESSAGES THAT DEAL WITH SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT OUR WOMEN FEEL. SO BIG UP TO ALL MY SOMALI SISTAS AROUND THE WORLD AND KEEP UR HEADS UP!!!!!

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Anonymous

Tuesday, January 23, 2001 - 05:58 pm
y'all fu cked up....were the fuckin hijaab...its part of bein muslim....it is morally wrong not wearin one.....i now its none of my business but if u dont wear it u might as well convert......aight
peace out to all ma sistas with or without hijaabs

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Sahal

Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 03:31 am
Lela:
You are an ignorent bitch.It's because of you that many Somali women loo caayo.
Are you Moslem? If you are you'll wear the Hijaab because in Islam it's a requirement for women to cover their hair, if not don't criticize our religion and shut the •••• up and give your big black ass to those Jamaicans

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Caraweelo

Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 03:54 am
Sahal-
Interesting! You are insulting Lela because she said that it was not our culture to wear hijab. You are insulting her for voicing her opnion. Tell me, is your behaviour Islamic? Are you an example of what a muslim should be? Islam starts in your heart. You have to be pure in the inside before you can be pure on the outside. Clean your heart- istaqfurulahi- that is more important than being a hypocrite and just worrying about covering your hair!
But faith in perspective and may Allah guide us all.

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Sagal ahmed

Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 04:03 am
Sahal and that anonymous...Who r u to say that
if a woman doesn't wear a vail she is not muslim?
And a nother thing if u r trying to do the right
thing by just pointing out that the vail is part
of being a muslim u should do it without swearing
in case u forget swearing is a sin too.As a muslim
it is your duty to tell what u know bout islam,u
must not judg thats where ALLAH comes in. Peace all

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Sahal

Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 04:44 am
You guys are calling me a hypocrite.......
You bare your asses, •••• every body and then pray to Allah.....
What's that called?
I know what i'm doing is unIslamic, and accept it's responsibility but you guys will never realize the mistakes you are making....that's the Somali way.....you see the mistakes some one is making but you never see or accept the responsibility for yours...

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Caraweelo

Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 07:39 am
Sahal- why are you so judgemental? Do you know us? Do we "bare our ---- and ---- everybody"? How do you know? Ma waxyi baa kugu soo dego and shows you the unseen?
Amazing.....

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amiliyah

Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 07:49 am
To saqal and the rest of you that is against waering hijab. Allah made hijab wajiib to wear. In suratul nuur alalh subxana wa tacalah says to muhamed swas "oh muhamed tell your wifes, dauthgters,and fellow muslim sisters that they should cover from head to feet"Its cawrah for a women to show a part of her body so sisters plz fear alalh and his hell fire there will be a day when we will all be held accountable on what we did in this dunyah.There is no point copying from the unbelivers. Sisters alalh orders woman should cover her body from the unwanted gase and its a sign that you will be regonise as a muslim sister
And belive me allah has prapered a painfull punishment for whoever disaobyes him.

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Sahal

Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 08:53 am
Caraweelo and Sagal,
You guys are a very good example of the distorted minds of the Somali youth in the west.You are lost and you don't even know who you are.....
You just wanna argue with me in order to show off that you think and act like westerners.You have been brainwashed.

Ladies please iga cafiya language kii xumaa een isticmaalay.....
What i meant to express was ....you either follow the teachings of the Koran and the Sunnah( and say Alhamdulilah i am a Moslem), or you go astray and join the Kafirs.....there is nothing in between.....only hypocrites are in between.

Just read amiliyah's posting........

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Sahal

Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 08:54 am
Lela ,
Please i cafi.........please
i am sorry hadii aan dhaawacay dareenkaaga walaalo.I am truly sorry.

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Abdul

Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 10:08 am
Carawelo Shame on you, I have read your feminazi rantings elsewhere,I believe you are much older than this teens here. Instead of wasting your time trying to argue with those who are insulting each other, why NOT advice Gilrs like Lela and the rest who are very ignorant about the teachings of Islam.

Lela, you should try and educate yourself as far as the religion is concerned, if you choose not to, then thats your lose. But DONT try and misrepresent Islamic teachings.

You said:
"my mother, grandmother, great grandmother, great great great grandmother never wore xijab."

Ignorance is not a defence, just because the women in your family did not Cover, does not mean that others who do are wrong.

When the Prohet first brought his Message to the people of Mecca the Pagans told him " Even our Great-grandfathers used to worship Idols why should we change.

So dont give us that Centuries old line to justify your ignorance.

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Just a thought

Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 02:44 pm
Carawello do you wear hijaab? i doubt it cause i can see that jeans from here lol.

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NINXOON

Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 04:46 pm
LELA I COULD SEE YOU UGLY PUSSY BEEN SERVED AS SHAWARMA IN HELL, YOU BETTER COME BACK TO YOUR SENSES BEFORE IT'S TOOOOOO LATE.....
THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.........

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Usama Said

Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 05:41 pm
Salaam Aleikum

Brother who is started this topic May Allaah bless you, you rite women should cover toe to hair
as Quran Told us.

Guys Be cool to our sister, they have more difficult living Western countries, as our Prophet explained to us Women are more weaker than Men so advice them, tell them the truth Insha Allaahu, Allaah will guide them, but too call them Bad words that is worst than Hijab.

Lela Sister we should follow what Allaah say not our Parents, example if our Parents are Non-Muslim
do we follow blindly the answer is no, So insha Allaahu you need to learn your Deen.

Shiekada Caraweelo your doing Good walaalo

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Caraweelo

Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 08:18 am
Abdul- feminist ravings? dear me! But before you attack me- read what I wrote. All I said was that Sahal should not insult Lela for voicing her opinions. Thats all. And Sahal has now apologized to her sister Lela. We can disagree on things but we should not be cruel to each other. You are right, I am NOT a teenager- I never said I was :-)
Also, to wear or not to wear the hijaab is between Allah and the woman. HE is the one who will judge us all in the end. Remember the hadith, when a man insulted the Prophet and one of the companions got angry- and was about to kill the bedioun. The prophet- may peace and blessings be upon him- stopped the companion - explaining that no one can truly see into another's heart- and it is a crime to kill someone who said "La Illah Ila Laah"
We have to always be careful of insulting fellow muslims.
Just a thought- LOL! jeans, eh? Dear...whether I wear the hijaab or not is betwixt my Creator and I! But pray for me - regardless!

On the topic of the Hijaab there are 2 ayats in the Quran instructing women:

Surah Nur(24), ayat 31:
And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their
sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers'sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss.

and:

Surah The Clans (33) ayat-59:
O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the
believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient,that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft- Forgiving, Most Merciful.

Exempted are older women:

24:60 Such elderly women as are past the prospect of marriage,- there is no blame on them if they lay aside their (outer) garments, provided they make not a wanton display of their beauty: but it is best for them to be modest: and Allah is One Who sees and knows all things.


There it is - clear for all to see. Allah wants us to dress modestly and not to be around men who are not related to us directly.

I don't think anyone is denying the validity of dressing modestly- what I have a problem with is when people think that it is the most important act. The quran is filled with zillion ayats that tell us what is the most crucial- Believe in the Oneness of Allah- and do good deeds. Allah promised those the greatest reward-

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Sahal

Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 08:39 am
Salaama Allaikum,
what does "La Illah Ila Laah" mean?.
It doesn't meant that if you just say the word you are automatically a Moslem...It is much more than that...it means you have accepted the Islamic way of life...That means you accept the fact that anything unislamic is forbidden to you...that means that you'll do all the Waajibs in Islam.There are no short cuts, you can't just say, i am a Moslem and become a Moslem.That's a lie, that's hypocrisy...You have to fulfill all the things required of a moslem in order to become a Moslem, after saying the Shahaada, you have to pray five times a day, pay Zakat,Fast the month of Ramadan, perform Haj (If you can),

I am not trying to criticize any body....i am just trying to state the fact...

Salaama Allaikum

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SUHUUR

Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 01:11 pm
Why you are not wearing Khamiis anymore Jamal? Duh!

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LELA

Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 07:20 pm
To Sahal, i'm disappointed in u bro and all those little young men who just the learnt the religion and be preaching to rest of us that we're not muslims. Its a shame that some of u men can't answer me back in a manner that is diginfied and atleast mature, so instead u resolute to insult me. Well insulting is apart of being a muslim rite??? Look i'm just saying that one doesn't need to wear a vail in order to be a muslim. I'm proud not to wear one, but just because i don't wear one doesn't mean that i show off my body, or ignorant as some of u claim i'm. I cover myself up as God has said for all mankind to do, the only differrence is that i don't have a problem with my hair getting some fresh air.

Has it occurred to some of u guys that some women who do wear the vail also wear makeup. I'm not trying to put down my sistas who do, but women do this sometimes when they're insecure or want to get a guy's attention. Well isn't that the whole point u guys say its good wear the vail, so u don't catch a guy's eye. Guys this vail thing started as an arabic culture because the arabic people back in history were wild and sexual people. Its because of them that today muslims aren't allowed to drink because they missused it. Well this vail thingy was brought to them to control their sexual outbursts. Now there be some of u who think that arabs are saints and better muslims than somalis are or any other ethnic groups that are muslims, but i don't believe that.By the way these are my views and don't have to be anyone else's in here, in this forum.

My sistas and bros we shouldn't insult each other because we don't have the same beliefs but listen to each other and learn from one another. But i guess that would be extremely hard for somalis since their ignorance and struban opinons led to the destruction of our homeland. So for once ppl lets try to use this forum constructively and not destructively.

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LELA

Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 07:29 pm
By the way i forgot to add thanx Caraweelo for pointing out to Sahal that insulting someone isn't the way a muslim should act or an individual to have a discussion with another individual. And to Sahal what u said was wrong but i do accept ur appolgy.

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Sahal

Friday, January 26, 2001 - 03:51 am
Lela,
Thanks for accepting my apologies....and i'd like to tell u again that i'm trully sorry....

Sis, there is a difference between Hijab and Veil.
Hijab could be a scarf or a cloth that cover the hair or that area where as a Veil is the cloth that covers the face.
Moslem women are not required to wear a veil, but they must cover their hair...I can't say you are not a Moslem if you don't....but i know that there are no half-Moslems...You are either a complete Moslem or NO MOSLEM.

SALAMA ALLAIKUM

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Islajecel

Friday, January 26, 2001 - 04:02 am
In laga hadlo Xijaabka u jeedadiisa aad baan uga farxay, laakiinse waa adi iyo sidaad u khaadato.Xijaabka macnihiisa ma aha kultuuradaa ka tag ee u libiso sida Afganistaan kulturada u ah.
Xijaabka waa uu cooradaada khari "tintaada iyo korkaada" isla markaa adoon dadka aad lanooshahay aadan si aad iyo aad u gaar ah eeysan kuu fiirineyn, maxaa dhacay Xijaabka wuxuu u soo dagay in dumarka N.C.S aanan isha lala sii raacin.

Marka gabdhaha aan hadalka u soo jeedinayo waxaan leeyahay u labiso sidii eey argtidaada ku tusto in aad asturantahay.
Diinta wax badan beyna furtay ee ha la dadaalo.
Somalida dhaqan bey leedahay ee ha lo xoojiyo.
Tan aanan xijaabka qaadan oona shakheysata ama waxbarata dadkana aanan u xadgudbin, weey dhaanta tan Xijaabka Afganistaanka isku rarta oona iskushiireyso, isla markaana dhaheyso "Aniga iyo ninkeyga isma qabno".
Taas oo kale caruurteed soo Garac maaha,yeey been u sheegee -Illaheygii na abuurtay soo uma jeedo.

Gabdhaha soomaliyeed waxaan leeyahay Ilaahey uun ka cabsa. Dadka kale warkooda hadhegeysan, waxna baro, shaqeeyso, dadkaada waxaad u tari kartid u tar.

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LELA

Friday, January 26, 2001 - 07:14 am
Well Sahal i'm a complete muslim just because i don't wear the xijaab or veil does not make me none muslim bro. there is no requirement to wear the xijaab to be a muslim, but one should cover up themselves. However, there are more important things that are required to be a muslim like praying to and believing in Allah or fasting... etc.

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Abdul

Friday, January 26, 2001 - 08:02 am
Lela even with the Ayat posted above by Caraweelo you STILL DONT GET IT.

Your personal opinion dont mean NOTHING when it comes to the religion. You dont have a choice on the Matter of Xijab. You are not complete untill you follow it. We all are not perfect, but dont try to Argue with this issue. The verdict is clear, its a Must for women to cover, if you dont like it then thats a different issue. But dont try and getting an Excuse.

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Sahal

Friday, January 26, 2001 - 08:14 am
Abdul..than you...
My sister Lela,
We don't really need personal likings or opinions.....It's a law and it's clear....
As i said above in my earlier postings, there is nothing in between......
Diintu yac yacood ma leh...Xaaraam iyo Xalaal wax u dhexeeyaana ma jiraan.
Xijaabku qofka dumarka ah ee Moslem ka ah waa ku waajib waa inay qaadataa....Anigu ma odhan karo gabadha aan qaadani Moslem maaha..Allah ayaa og..
Laakiin mid ayaan ogahay, waxan ogahay inaadan odhan karin diinta badhna waan qaadanayaa oo ku dhaqmayaa badhna waan ka tegayaa....taasi waa mamnuuc....amaba qof Moslem ah oo ilaahay Subhaanu Wataalaa wixii uu faray wada qaata ayaad noqon....amaba qof diidey ayaad tahay.....
Hadii Xijaabka aadan qaadan ayaad qur'an ah ayaad beenisey, bal hada imagine qof Qur'an kii ilaahay beeniyey!

Wa bilaahi Tawfiq

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AISHA

Friday, January 26, 2001 - 02:55 pm
SALAAN DHAMAANTIIN

MARKAHORE JAMAAL WAAD KUMAHADSANTAHAY BERNAAMIJKAAN AAD NOO SOOBANDHIGTAY WAAYO MEESHA WAXAY NOQOTAY MEEL LA'ISKU WAANEYU WHICH IS ILAAHAY MAHADIISA IYO NAXARIISTIIAA. ADIGANA AJAR AYAA KAAGA SOCDA INTA AY KAHADLAAYAAN KHEERKA ILAAHAY. WAAYO MALAAIKATA WAY U DUCAYSAA DADKA MARKAY AY ISWAANINAAYAAN AMA AYKAHDLAAYAAN ILAAHAY KHEERKIISA. MARKA AAD BAAD UMAHADSANTAHAY.

TO: DHAMAAN DADKA WACDINAAYA DADKA KALE EE UBAAHAN IN AAD WAX USHEEGTIIN ILAHAY AJAR IYO XASANAAD HA'IDINKA SIIYO. RASUUL WALBA CSWS WAXUU ILAAHAY KU YIRI SUBXAANA WATACAALA SOO BARA DADKA OO U SHEEGA DIINTA ISLAAMKA.

WABILAAHI TAWFIIQ

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dhuuxo

Friday, January 26, 2001 - 02:59 pm
gabadha muslinka ah waa inay marka hore ka soo baxdaa waajibaadkii ilaahiga ahaa,waxaana rumaysnahay in gabdhaha qaarkood ay xijaab sitaan iyadoon aaan rumayn waa jibaadkii kale ee diiniga ahaa.
xijaabku waa waajibaad diini ah oo ilaahay amray in gabadha muslinka ah ay xijaabato,cowradeeda ama jidhkeeda ay ka qariso wixii aan ahayn xumarimaadkeeda.
waa inaysan isku khaldin diin iyo caadaadkii umada soomaaliyeed lahaad jirtay markii noloshoodo ku ekayd miyaga oo hooyooyinkeen iyo ayeeyooyinkeen ay san xijaaban jirin duruufta oo caynkaa ku kaliftay.
maanta umada soomaaliyeed waxay inteeda badan ku dhaqan tahay magaalin iyo tuulooyin diintu si fiican u gaadhay ama aqoon loogu leeyahay lana eegayo gabdha soomaaliyeed ee dhulkaas ku nool inay ilaaliso waajibaadkereda diiniga ah.
balse dhibaatada jirta waxay tahay gabdhihii markii somaliya la joogay asturnaa amase tukanaayay markay soo barop kaceen oo wetern-ka ay yimaadeen ayay xijaabkii tuuruun also salaadii iyo kutyubtii taasina waa ayaan darro haysata gabdhaha soomaaliyeed.....kudayashadii ay ku daydeen wadamada ay yimaadeen ee laga qaawan yahay...
caado la baajo caro alle ayay leedahay sidii somali horay u tiriba...

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Usama Said

Friday, January 26, 2001 - 05:45 pm
Salaam Aleikum


Sis Lela may Allah shadow you his clemency, Walaalhi walaalo your wrong saying these words, Allaah order women to cover and its compulsory sisters to cover themselves.
Walaalo you need to learn Islam, Ignorance can lead bad stuff. Today everywhere young
Girls started wearing Hijab in Downtown, University campuses, Walaalahi I feel happy when I saw girls with Hijab, Abaayo its time to wake up and ask Allaah forgiveness saying these words again and again


"there is no requirement to wear the xijaab to be a muslim, but one should cover up themselves. However, there are more important things that are required to be a muslim like praying to and believing in Allah or fasting... etc."

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Arawello

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 10:17 am
Assalamu alicum,

Sister Leila,
as all the brothers and sisters told you, hijab is must. it is Allah's commond. and when we talk about it is beneficials, beleave me it is endless. when, can only come to say that Allah is the Wiser. I too, did start wearing it and used to say what you are saying though, I thought, I was right, but I was wrong. I love my hijab and I am sure you will. try to associate with the Hijabe sisters. if you want a bit more help of how I forced myself to start wearing it before loving it. I will gie you my email.

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Amina

Sunday, January 28, 2001 - 05:16 pm
Salaams people, I'am late as eva.........

Jamaal, not all the sisters have stoped wearing the hijab okay.. and not all the sisters back home wore hijab.. I am not saying that we shouldn't be wearing hijab.. but back home it was mainly done as a custom and rarely for the deen ..

Anyways:

Amiliyah honey(if ur the Amiliyah that i know) that was beuatifull babes... aunty is proud of ya(lol)...

Leila sis, the sisters have already done a beautifull job in describing the place of hijaab in islam.. I just like to add a few words about my personal experiences with the hijaab: it is our badge of honour... by wearing the hijab you are in a sense making a statement... that YOU are a Woman to be taken seriously.. you mean bussiness and no one can mess with ya... your beauty is dear to you...and you are in no way gonna exploit urself or let others do that... You don't live your life for people but for Allah..You my sis is a woman of virtue... and through hijaab you make your mark.

I am not having a go at you sis, i remember it was not long ago when i used to be so against wearing hijab.. i know its hard esp. in this society... but who deserves more fear Allah or people... sis the hijab is not gonna harm you in any way, shape or form , rather its gonna protect you, from all sorts of evil..

Sahal.. bro i respect the work that you are doing.. But there is no point in beating the sis with the book (na mean)... After all, there is no compulsion in the deen , right...

And YES there is something in between... weakness and ignorance in the deen neither makes you a hypocrate (munafiq) nor dose it take you out of the fold of islam. You can be a sinfull muslim but that does not make you a hypocrate. Besides only Allah knows what is in the hearts of people, so brother please slow down on the judgements.

I've said my Piece

Peace, Love and Happiness

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Sahal

Sunday, January 28, 2001 - 05:39 pm
I ask every one of you for foregivenes (Saamaxaad)if i have hurt your feelings in any way during this debate .....I lost my temper once and i did apologize....:) Leila, i ask you again please foregive me......
I have just trying to do my obligation as a Moslem...which is to propogate the word of Allah.It was never my intention to hurt any one's feelings or to beat any body with the book(As my sis Amina put it).

Wa bilahi Tawfiq

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Anonymous

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 12:47 am
CORRECTION TO SUHUR: DON'T BE MISTAKEN, WEARING
HIJAAB IS COMPULSORY IN ISLAM, BUT WEARING
KHAMIS BY MEN IS NOT..DUH!

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mubarik

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 01:02 am
to all sisters

hijab is a wajib for every women so who ever hates the hijab he disblieved so of the allah's ayaat so I am telling the girls those againet the hijab don't follow what U see in this world but U must obey allh's commenment and oders.
alsso I am advicing all sisters to lean their relagian as a prorer

mubarik

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amiliyah

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 06:31 am
Hey i would like to ask question to alll the guys.
Do you grow yor bear and, wear khramis and cut your trouses??????.Or do just dress like a westerners, with the tight jeens and all that crap clothes. Well brothers before you judge any sisters you should correct your selfes.

amina well done girlfriend keep up with the good advice sis.

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Amazon XX

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 08:45 am
Somalis love to do things upside down! people- its really very simple. When you become a good muslim- 1. when you pray 5 times a day,
2. fast 30 days during ramadan,
3. do not talk bad behind people's backs.
4. when you give charity
5. when you do not transgress against others.

Then - and only then- do you get closer to the right path- Then you begin to loose interest in this world.
Then you will increase your prayers and you will avoid all evil.
1. you will stop wearing makeup
2. you will stop wearing colorful clothes
3. you will avoid anything that shows your shape.
4. you will stop looking at men's eyes- and avoid any contact with unrelated men.

Then you will cover yourself from head to toe-
Because you are a real muslim- pure- from your heart.
To those people- Allahu Akbar! Mansha Allah.

But people- if you backbite and cheat and lie and steal- and then wear the hijaab!
Who are you cheating? Allah can see right to the core of your soul.
Who Are You Fooling?

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Honesita

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 09:19 am
Amazon XX.......walaahi that is so true.....i've seen sooooooo many girlz wearin' the right hijaab....even covering thier face.....but full of nifaaq.....they talk bad about pple......they lie and dont even pray the 5 prayers the way we r supposed to do!!!!

I know hijaab is mandatory on us females if we truely believe in allah......like Sahal said we cant say i'll take half of the diin and leave the rest.....even though we do that sometimes it dont mean that its right.......but hijaab only will not take us to Jannah.......its the deeds we do...........praying and believin' in allah and doing good in so many other things also count...right!!??
Innama al acmaal bi niyaat :)

Lela.......sis why dont u try to wear the hijaab for oneday......just one whole day....wear it to work and to school or where eva u go.....and see how it feels :O

Salaam

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Qalanjo

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 02:04 pm
SALAM AKHYARTA,,
waxaa lahadlayaa wiilasha oo ku dhahayo gabadhaha xijabka ha gashtan
why idinka ma ka heshiin gabdhaha xijabka qaba hah
oo waxaa ka doorataan midakale hah.

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UkMan9

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 07:38 am
TALO TO ALL SOMALI GIRLS

ayaamahan danbe nimanku somaliyed markay rabaan inay guursadaan waxay ku tashadaan kuwa xijaabka qaba markay rbaan only sex waxay doontaan kuwaan xijaabka qabin marka if u wanna get married my taladaydu waa xijaab qaado midda kale carada ilaah kugu dhici mayso and midda kale sidaad ogtihiinba hablaha somaliyeed waxay u badan yihiin kuwa leh dabo wayn markay surwaal soo xirato dadka oo dhan baa ka cawdi bilaysta fool xumadeeda therefore xijaabku waa ceeb asture.

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Im laughing cuz Im telling theeee truth.

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yasmiina

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 08:18 am
ukman
ixtarim nafsak. aboowe gabhdahaad sheegayso ee saas uu buurbuuran waa horay dhamaadeen ee ma huradaa. mida xijaabka hadii aysan gabadha ilaahay dartiis u gashanayn lee bay ninxuna ugu gashanaysaa.you made me laugh because you are such a liar.gabar soomaaliyeed qof oranaya way foolxun yihiin majiro because ma folxuma waxkasta oo ay gashadaan

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UkMan9

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 01:17 pm
Yasmiina waa kaa qosliyey sababtoo ah malaa waad aragtay kuwa buurbuuran oo surwaal ku dheggen qaba oo markaad indhaha ku dhufatid aad isleedahay subxaan waxaani waa maxay human ba uma eko luga dhuudhuuban daba waaaaaaayn waxaan is iraahdaa mararka qaarkood waxaani waxa fool xumada la dhaho ma garanayaan malaa.
waxaan bus soo fuushay gabar ilaah hilib saaray xagga danbe u wayn tights qabta kaliya iyo mara qaarka sare oo aad u yar. mid ila socday ayaa yiri ma somali baa waxaan soo fuulay markaas baan ku iri inta maagay waad ogtahay hablaha somalida how good looking they r how could u say that.
wax kale kuma garatide afkaan jabsaday.
marka waxbaa alla itusay ee maxaa igu maagaysaaa walaalo.
wax la qosle weeye
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