     Anonymous | Unrecorded Date
Form kaahin,
I met a Somali girl beginning of last year. We had a very good relationship. Before we started having intimate relationship (I know it's a sin, but it happened; let god forgive me), I made some points clear to her that, I have right to judge her of her past history whether it was good or not except that I want to be last man in her life. If whatever the reason this condition is breached, then I am gone too. This was my principal of life. Paradoxically, I was the first man in her life. It was me whom she spent with that memorial night. I made some promises that I want her to be my last women in my life. This was actually from my hearth. I meant it. September last year she went back to her university. One good afternoon, I opened my email box and it was this massage that read "please forgive me there is someone I like in the university and he likes me too. Frankly, I like you but we are far from each other. I cannot be alone for long". I wrote her back an email and told her I am very happy for her as long as she is happy and this was the end of our relationship. 3 days ago, I came here for seminar (I don't want quote the place for any inconvenience that it might cause to her since she is sitting here with me now). We met again she said she has made a mistake and it will never happen again, so we have to restart everything from zero. I told her I am very forgiving man in other social life but not my relationship with women. She said it's not fair. We talked a lot but it was too contentious and we decided to write to you so that you can mediate us. I made the decision not to go back to that relationship again. This is what I believe. Now she wants to write her portion to you.
From farxia,
S\aleekum,
Walaalayaal, I know this is my mistake it happened exactly as he said except,
Since our relationship started we talked a lot about our future I made him clear that I love him from the start, never did he mention even once that he loves me too. I was so curious about the longevity of our relationship. I had the feeling that I wasn't getting what I expected from him. Now we met again, and he told me he loved me but never did he mention that to me because he was observing my behavior on trail, I don't believe people should be put under observation, you either love or don't. Believe me he is one of the best Somaliman you would want to spent your life with but he has some weird behaviors like the one I mentioned. I know no one is perfect. Now, I confessed that I have been with other man, I told him the truth, my point is if he ever loved me, he should forgive of my mistakes, humans make mistakes. Before we met he was a player too, besides now here he has Italian woman with him that he said they work together but again he says its his girlfriend now. Walaalayaal, nala taliya, we agreed whatever you our brothers and sisters mostly agree that will be the decision we will take.
P.S. for all sins may god all forgive us. Insha alah. |
| cajabo | Unrecorded Date
Salaamu calaykum
WOW! Well, what can I say? I believe that both of you made an excellent point. The reason pre-marital sex is not a good idea is because of all this confusion. To my sister and brother I am not judging you just making an observation.
To the Brother, I believe that you are a typical MAN not to say SOMALI man! I understand where you are coming from. Ultimately the decision is yours. It is a question of trust and no one can tell you who to trust. You have to find out for yourself. And I think that you generally mistrust women. Ask for Allah's forgiveness and insha Allah you will find the answer with the help of Allah. I don't think one should go through life "observing" other people. If you are not READY for marriage then abstain from dating walaal. Allah has made pre-marital sex xaraam for both men and women.
To the Sister. Wow! It hurts, I know, but I have a question for you: what is most important love or to please Allah? Think deeply about that and make your choice. We have given too much importance to love to the point of neglecting our obedience to Allah. Alxamdulilaah, Allah is Most Merciful. And you can always turn to Allah for help and guidance. I would advise you not to let your feelings blind you from the fact that this man is NOT your xalaal husband. First and foremost, disengage from all xaraam activities. Your position should be clear: if he wants you and can trust you then he should take the correct path: the Islamic and traditional one. If not walaal, repent to Allah and NEVER feel you owe any man an explanation. Ask for Allah's forgiveness and keep your head up high. Wait for the one Allah has decreed will be your husband. Insha Allah khayr walaal. Avoid dating and going out with men. I believe that EVERY woman should safeguard her chastity for the pleasure of obeying Allah. What happened has already happened sister. My advice don't make it a habit, rather start a NEW life.
If I have offended any of you in the process please forgive me.
Peace |
| AQBAAL | Unrecorded Date
SALAMA ALAYKUM BOTH OF YOU IF YOU GUYS LOVE EACH OOTHER AND TRUST I BELIEVE YOU GUYS HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND CHANCE YES IT IS TRUE HUMAN BEING MAKE AND IT HAPPEN ALL THE TIME BUT WE HAVE TO AVOID THE MISTAKES AS MUCH AS WE CAN . i BELIVE THAT YOU GUYS GET MARRIED AND SATTLE (HADDII KALE TUKADA LABO RAGCADOOD OO LA DHAHO ISTIKHAARO OO AAD ILLAAHAY TALO SAARANAYSAAN AND THIS IS THE BEST THING TO DO) |
| Xaamilo15 | Unrecorded Date
Hi Kaahim and Farxiya...
I've read both of your arguments and all I could think of was...LACK OF COMMUNICATION.
The both of you didn't have much communication going to begin with...and I doubt if that changed at all. I could sit here and go on the faults on both sides but CAJABO pointed all out, she said almost everythin' that needed to be said.
All I could say is, If the two of you really love each other, then everything will work out . If it was not meant to be, then so be it.
Good luck to you both. PEACE |
| Aqyaar. | Unrecorded Date
Kaahin.
Have you a sister?. And if you do, what would you like her relationship with a man be?. How would you feel if I slept with your sister-I being the first- and tell her she will also be scrutinized by me after I take away her innocense?. Why didn't you convince the girl in the first place if you truly loved her to have a platonic relationship one in which sex is no part?. Or may be you were fulfilling your bullish desire?. I tell you mr kahin, you put this innocent girl into this clamity and you should be ashamed that you act the way you act. I SAY YOU ARE GUILTY AS CHARGED. And you should also stop fooling around with women, specially when you want in the future a somalian woman as your wife having had your little stick knock every damned place.
Farxiya.
I am gonna be easy on ya. From now on don't allow yourself to be degraded like this. Had you thought about the intimacy, you wouldn't be begging kahin to carry on the relationship. Be free from slavery and say NO TO SEX. Don't go near kahin, because if he was caring enough, he would have told you to marry him period. Look at western women and their proplems, I feel sorry for them really, you don't wanna be desparate like them, you believe in god and stick to his advice to you because ALLAH cares for you more than any being. Kahin should have paid a price for you if really wanted you. He is not your man, And I say may you find a better replacement, one who fears Allah and takes care of ya.
Your brother aqyaar. |
| Anonymous | Unrecorded Date
From kaahin,
We are here once more to see what our brothers and sisters have to say. Thank you all we really appreciated your comments. As some of you blamed me for the whole thing. Let me clarify the issue once more. When we met her I really didn't care of her past, I wanted as she was good or bad girl. I liked her period. As our relationship got closer and closer we started having future plans for both of us. We agreed since she was in her final year in university, she will first finish her education then arranged our marriage. Do you understand what this means, this means I have made my mind that she was going to my wife. But I made clear to her that I want to be the last man in her life, I really didn't care being first, it was coincident that she was virgin when we first met. This was clear to her even before we started our intimate relationship. I didn't know that time I was going to be the first man in her life. I promised her few months after graduating we will be husband and wife and be one of the best Somali families. I had one-year breathing space to organize myself. This was my plan. Simply I am being hard because I believe anyone breaking any agreement between two people specially those with close relationship should pay for the consequences. I believe if I let now go this, there is no guarantee it won't happen again. What I want to hear from you is that, do you think she deserves another chance?
Aqyaar,
Yes I have sisters and actually its up to them to decide what to do. I only try to advise them concerning social issues. If you are good enough to make them sleep with you then it's up to you, her and Allah.!. I understand why you said I am guilty. You are emotionally moved.
Cajaba,
Sister, why am I typical man, what is this suppose to mean, I am not following the hidden primes of your sentence. Please explain and feel free. Don't worry, I have phlegmatic behavior.
From Farxiya,
S\aleekum all of you.
Walaalayall aad ayaad ugu mahadsan tihiin wax badan oo aad tiraahdeen waad ku saxsan tihiin. I know I have committed a sin against our beloved religion. May god forgive me. This guy is too principal, I don't know how he was brought up in this world. I promised not to do anything that will again jeopardize our relationship again. I want you to understand I love him like my eyes. I feel so lonely without him. Just last night he was having another woman. Before we met only god knows what he did. Sometimes he is too westernized and sometimes he is typical Somaliman. He changes his behavior like weather. He was the first man in my life, I really don't know what made go for another. Please what is the best for us. I am very confused. My finals are soon, I really don't know why is he so hard on me. I wonder if he treats all other women like this or only us Somalis. Please advise. |
| MO | Unrecorded Date
very interesting conversation!
Brother Kahin, you have a very clear and good point. She is the one who said, jaaw macalinka in the first place. the only advice for you is to be yourself. Don't let anyone push you do something you woudn't othetwise. It is your life and you are the one who will have to deal with the outcome of any decision you make. No one will ever come to your rescue.
Sister Farxiya:
Don't you know that "love" was burried a very long time ago:) By definition, love is a temporary insanity and it will go away sooner or later. Relationships are like public transportation - You miss one and there's always another one on the way:)
If you are not selfish, why don't you give the brother who lives far away from you a break, and try to get another man from your city. My time is very limited now - hope to catch up with you later. |
| kadra | Unrecorded Date
To Kahin
Please give the girl another chance! you were no an angel either God knows how many women you have screwed and seduced them pre and post of farhiya's relationship with you. If she was premiscious she would not have stayed a virgin until her last year of university. I am sure you weren't the first guy who persuaded and tempted her to bed, but you are the only one who convinced her to spend with you that first experience and one precious memorial night. I know she is the one who broke up with you and it will take a time to erase those memories of her past relationship but did you find out what were the influences that caused her to fall for someone handy? perhaps longetivity for you, homesickness, inconvenience and lack of support being away from home, school pressure,etc have encouraged the the idea. I think under this circumstances and many more, women can be taken advantage of by men who claim that they are better off with them than their future husbands. If you yourself have not had any intimacy with anyone after your preak up with her then it is kind of awkward situation and i see your point of worrying this could happen again. Waar innanta saddex kumaad qabin ilayne markay kula joogtay baad guur xalaala u soo bandhigilahayde oo gogol dhaaf may samayne, ee hadaad intaad sallaatul iskhtaara tukadtaan wixii horena ka toobad keentaan haddadd kheyr isu leedihiina nolol cusub aad wada bilowdaan. inshallah if you both now agree to proceed your relationship then stay monogomous and please stop playing on the girl's head while you are still showing off aroud her with other, especially, non somali girls. You just hurting her more and making her feel guilty,ashamed and jealous!
Kadra |
| kadra | Unrecorded Date
To Farhiya
Wallaal wixii dhacay dhace! Ilaahey u toobadkeen iminka laga bilaabana is qaali garee. Isagana cafis baad weydiisataye haduu ku diidey persue another hobby aad isku ilowsiiso sida digriga iyo quraanka aqriskiisa iyo adoo ka dheeraada agagaarkiisa. It will take you awhile to overcome this. Laakiin samir baa lagaaga baahanyey. There is a future ahead of you when the time comes you will get what you deserve and mr. wright too.
Rag soomaaliyeed baa lagu yaqaanaa "xaydha jecli beerka jecli"! marka horena dariiqada xaaraanta bay kuu horseedayaan and ofcourse when they make up their mind for marraige they seem to be pin point for perfection. Markaa xidhiidh walba waayo aragnimo ayaad ka korodhsatey. Gabadh waxaa la yidhi "kun na way la sheekaysataa kowna way ka guursataa", though this idea implies to back home, where premarital sex was not a part of HAASAAWAHA and totally different set up than qurbaha.Markaas inaadeer innankani mental games buu kugu ciyaarayaaye iska ilow hadaanu kuu jeedin. If he really loves you he would see your good qualities that made him fall in love with you at the first place, he would see your determination to assure him that you are once and all going to be his and establish trust and loyalty.
goodluck kadra |
| deeq | Unrecorded Date
I saw excatly like this history
Runtii waa sheko aniga igu dhacday tanoo kale
waxaan rabi hanaga dhaafee sidaaso kale isu baranayy inan yar oo an weligeed nin arag hase ahaatee shaydaan ayaa naga tanbadiyey waxaanay noqotay in wixii dhacay dheceen
bal maxaa dhimatay waxaa dhintay markii howshii dhamaatay jacaylkii aan u hayey oo dib laysoo marin waayey inantii
waxaana ogahay hadii aan xalaal kubilaabi lahaa in uu jacaylku weligii jiri lahaa
balse
dardaaran
inantii wayday bigranimadeedi ogow wiil soomaliyeed badi inaanan jeclayn inan aan bigro aheen ama aanu latumanay waayo waxkale maaha waxaa dhimanaysa kalsoonida dhinaca adi makugu ekaanaysaa
walaashii farxiyo
waxkale kuma oranayee iskaga har waa anigoo kale kaasi amba gabartii sidaas ayaan kukala tagnay
laakiin hadaan lahaan lahaa caqliga aan iminka leeyahay iyo cimriga aa ahay madhacdeen taasi
iska tuko ilaahay utoobadkeen
inanwaliba waa jeceshahay wiilka bikranimada kajebiya ee wad ilaawidoontaaye
ika iloow
waxaan se kugu latalinayaa has odhan waxad wayday bigro nimadaadi hayska quusan waxad helaysa midkujecel waa hadii aad noqoto qof nafteeda inta ka hartay xafida oo aadan is oran aduunka waxkuuyaalaa majiro ee beerta iska gal
waa iga talo
kaahin
ädigu xayawaan baad tahay hadii inanta aad bigro jebisay iska guurso aamina reer galbeed nimada iska dhaaf anba arintaasoo kale waa isoo martay
hadii kale inanta kafogoow oo haku noqnoqon oo hasii haleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen doqonyahow
oo tumasho hasii barin
calif iyo musaamax
hablooooooooooow runweeyee iska kaayo ilaaliya
waleeeeeeeee cadow ayaaanu nahay oo nina naaaaag uu xaaaaaaaaaran kula kulmay way adagtahay sida uu jacayl uga qabto ee tii hore u luntay luntay tiiiiiiiii kalay waraaaaaaaabayaal ayaanu nehee iska kaaya jira
ilaaaaaahow nasaamax |
| Anonymous | Unrecorded Date
Hello guys!!
what is wrong with this peaple!! they came in public pleace and they telling us that they have sex!!! well, is that what we learn about the westarn, I can't believ somalian people will say easy that they got a sex which sina |
| JAMAL | Unrecorded Date
Kaahin waan fahmay waxaad ka booday, waxaa kaa lumay wixii la oranjiray aaminaada.markaa ilaahay ayaa quraankiisa inoogu sheegay oo yiri feedh qaloocan ayaan ka sameeyay ,markaa hadaad istiraahdid toosi waad kala jabinaysaa;waxay aniga ilatahay inaad saamaxdid, waxaa laga yaabaa inay is lahayad bal eeg in nin kani ku jecal yahay iyo in kale. Farxiya; Waan ku salaamay,waxaa jirtay inan soomaaliyeed oo aanu wada soconjirnay mudo sanada waxaan iskuul ka dhigan jiray meel ujirta sadex saacadood ma gaalada ay degantahay, waxaan is arki jirnay sabtida iyo axada. markaan tago magaalada ay dagentahay waxaan ku dagi jiray inan cadaana oo aanu asxaab nahay, waxaan kaloo ka bartay wiil kale oo soomaaliyeed. maalin maalmaha ka mida ayaa wiilkii soomaaliyeed gurigiisii qado iigu sameeyay, markaanu qadadii dhamaysanay ayuu sawiro badan soo saaray oo igu yiri sawiradan waxaa ku jira aniga oo sadex bilood jira, hadal yaa kugu daaline sidaan sawiradii marba mid u rogayay ayaa waxaa igaga soo baxay inantaan wada soconay iyo inankii oo si wanaagsan isu haysta, markaan inan kii way diiyay wuxuu ii sheegay in ay inanatan ay wada sheekaystaan. Markaa siday khadri kor ku soo sheegtay waxay tiri kuna waa lala sheekaystaa kowna waa lagala baxaa, markaa waxaan ka wadaa hadaan kun lasheekaysano kona kala baxno reerku miyuu dagayaa. Farxiya hadaan taadii usoo noqdo, waxaan ilaahay kaaga baryayaa in sidaad doonaysid ay kuu noqoto,axdigana aad adkaysi. |
| Inspired | Unrecorded Date
It truly hurts my heart, and wounds my soul. As I am writing this I shed a tear, not because of the situation of the two parties. But because of the predicament that our people are in. I am not surprised by what has happened to kaahin and farhiya (I pray sincerly that everything works out for both of you)What surprises me more is that one: you would actually write about your shame like it was a breeze under a tree, and two: that people would respond to it as if it is a norm, an everday occurance. It weakens my bones to think that my people have lost all decency. Shame on you for writing this, and shame on you for replying(In this I include myself).
Remember that lifes tribulations that hit you like patches of dark night will only make you stronger. excuse me if I offended anyone, just wanted to wake people. And if you wanted to remain sleeping then excuse me for my ignorance |
| Dulli_diid | Unrecorded Date
"IDAA LAM TAS-TAXYI IFCAL MAA SHI'TA" AL BIRU LAA YABLAA, WA DAMBU LAA YUNSAA, WA DAYAANU LAA YAMUUT, IFCAL MAA SHI'TA, KAMAA TUDIINU TUDAAN. |
| Fataax | Unrecorded Date
Dummy she deserves a second chance, you read that |
| Xaamilo15 | Unrecorded Date
To: Farxiyo
I'm not coming down on your ex-man, but he doesn't deserve U.(no offence kaahin) Listenin' to both of your arguments, it seems as if he is only thinkin' of himself. I can understand why the both of U turned to the public eye instead of gettin' a professional help. (therapy)
Farxiyo, girl U need to concentrate on your exams, try and focus on your studies, becuz the last thing u need is flunkin' your exams becuz of a man who would rather base his decision on what other pple think bout the situation. If Kaahim really loves U, he would need to get over the past and move on with the future.
TO: Kaahin
Who r u to judge farxiyo, from what i hear, u're still datin' other women. Who r u talk bout who she slept with, and i don't doubt u love farxiyo, but u will never get over it unless u move on. What happened in the past, is just memory...
I can understand why the both of u had miscommunication in the first place, becuz somali-men, no offence, most of them don't know how to communicate with the opposite sex. They might love her and think the world of her, but they don't have the nerve to come upto U and say that on your face. (meanin', I DON'T BLAME KAAHIN FOR NOT TELLIN' U (FARXIYO) HOW HE FELT BOUT U.)
ALL I CAN SAY IS, KAAHIN, ONLY U CAN MAKE UP YOUR MIND, ONLY U CAN FORGIVE HER, ONLY U CAN FORGET BOUT THE PAST....NOT THOSE PPLE, LIKE MYSELF THAT R READIN' YOUR PROBLEMS.
I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE AND I'M GONNA SAY IT AGAIN...BOTH OF YOU NEED TO SIT DOWN AND REALLY, I MEANT IT...TALK IT OUT...POUR YOUR HEART TO HER KAAHIM AND SAME GOES FOR YOU FARXIYA....AND I HOPE EVERYTHIN' WORKS OUT. DO LET US "THE READERS" KNOW HOW IT TURNS OUT.
~~~GhOsTeD~~~ |
| Xaamilo15 | Unrecorded Date
A COMMENT FOR "MO"
"GIVE THE MAN A BREAK AND FIND ANOTHER IN YOUR CITY"? IS IT ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS WHO SHE SEES AND WHO NOT? KAAHIN AND FARXIYO BOTH ASKED FOR OUR "READERS" OPINION...U MAKE IT SOUND AS IF FARXIYO NEEDS HIM MORE THAN HE NEEDS HER...IF HE DIDN'T CARE BOUT THE GIRL, WHY WOULD HE WASTE HIS TIME TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OUT OF THE SITUATION? NEXT TIME, TRY TO BE CAREFUL AS TO WHAT U POST, BECUZ IT JUST SHOWS HOW QUICK U JUDGE PPLE. DON'T BLAME THE GIRL AND NOT THE GUY...HE IS GETTIN' BOOTY...AND SHE HAD SUM...THEY HAD PROBLEMS AND NOW THE BOTH OF THEM WANT TO GET BACK TOGETHER BUT HE IS NOT SO SURE AND FOR THAT, ALL I CAN SAY IS...KAAHIN, BE A MAN AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR U AND HER...
ONE |
| mohamed ibrahim | Unrecorded Date
Well Kaahin,
The issue is not "guilty or not guilty" brother. I think it much easier than that. No one committed murder here, its just miss understanding followed by some radical events. All relationships are supposed to experience ups and downs. Actually from my point view, its nice that it happened now rather than after precipitated marriage which only god knows what the consequences would have been. You see, one has to be flexible in life, able to adapt to this extremely changing environment surrounding us. I understand, such decisions are absolutely personal but since you wanted to share with us we should be able to make some parametric changes to your position. Brother, in the history of mankind, we as humans always putted in risk human life just to trade with better quality of life e.g. going to wars. So the same theory applies to your situations, you have to take another risk with this girl to improve your quality of life, (I assume you want to be husband and have loving family, right!). Simply you have reevaluate your position taking positive attitude this time. Let me tell you small story concerning those who don't change their minds. Butros Gali, United nations general secretary in early and mid 90's, when he was chosen as secretary he was asked if he was going to run the next elections, 5 years away then he said: "No, absolutely not. There is no way I will run again " 5 years later he was a candidate again and he was asked why he has changed his mind, he said: "ONLY FOOLS DON'T CHANGE THEIR MINDS" brother, I am saying you are fool but certainly YOU MUST CHANGE. |
| mohamed ibrahim | Unrecorded Date
Well Kaahin,
The issue is not "guilty or not guilty" brother. I think it much easier than that. No one committed murder here, its just miss understanding followed by some radical events. All relationships are supposed to experience ups and downs. Actually from my point view, its nice that it happened now rather than after precipitated marriage which only god knows what the consequences would have been. You see, one has to be flexible in life, able to adapt to this extremely changing environment surrounding us. I understand, such decisions are absolutely personal but since you wanted to share with us we should be able to make some parametric changes to your position. Brother, in the history of mankind, we as humans always putted in risk human life just to trade with better quality of life e.g. going to wars. So the same theory applies to your situations, you have to take another risk with this girl to improve your quality of life, (I assume you want to be husband and have loving family, right!). Simply you have reevaluate your position taking positive attitude this time. Let me tell you small story concerning those who don't change their minds. Butros Gali, United nations general secretary in early and mid 90's, when he was chosen as secretary he was asked if he was going to run the next elections, 5 years away then he said: "No, absolutely not. There is no way I will run again " 5 years later he was a candidate again and he was asked why he has changed his mind, he said: "ONLY FOOLS DON'T CHANGE THEIR MINDS" brother, I am not saying you are fool but certainly YOU MUST CHANGE. |
| saacid | Unrecorded Date
To:Kaahin
Brother kaahin, this is straightforward situation. You had mutual agreement with this sister. She promised to obey the terms of that agreement. She decided to break that agreement, on top of that, she had the guts to tell you that she got jiggy with some guy. Are you some sort of gullible person with no personal principles? How can she have arrangement with you one minute? Openly break the understanding you had next minute and still expect you to carry on as usual?
You must be one of those rare creatures' brothers. The ball is on your side. Its upto you to decide what is next.
Every crime deserves some sort of punishment. She had her go in the game and now it's your turn. In my humble opinion this woman sounds addicted to the game. She had no reasonable excuse for her behaviour. She did confess that she was involved in this game before you and there is no guarantee she won't carry on business as usuall for the foreseeable future.
Give her second chance and soon she will be asking third, fourth etc. If your intentions were for long term, put her where she belongs …. In the trash……… |
| Anonymous | Unrecorded Date
mohamed ibrahim, you made laugh, how do you manage to find these words. "ONLY FOOLS DONT CHANGE THEIR MINDS". this means alot. you know.i lke the way you express youself brother, well done. |
| hibaaq | Unrecorded Date
walaal kaahin waxaan ku oran lahaa talada maxamed ibraahim qaado.isaga wixii lagu dhihi lahaa oo dhan ku yiri. mida dambiga aad gasheen ah ilaahay walaalayaal u toobad keena oo wax fiican ka dan baysiiya, oo hadaad dabeecadiinu is fahamto qalad yar oo dhacay dhibaato maleh cafi gabadha,bini adam baan nahay qalad maalin kasta baa lagalaa ee madax adayga jooji bro,qayr badan baan labadiinaba idiin filayaa iyo hishiis wanaagsan. walaal farhiya dadaal adigana oo ilaahay cafis waydiiso oo waxbarashada ku dadaal iyadaa bari wax ku tari.haduu ku cafin waayana soomaaliyo dhan baa soo qaxday wiil soomaali oo fiican waayi maysid ee dulqaado oo adkayso byee sis. |
| HIBAAQ | Unrecorded Date
MAHAMED IBRAAHIM TALO WANAAGSAN BRO. WELL DONE MEESHAAS KA WAD SHAQADA WANAAGSAN LATALI, ALL SOMALI U BAAHAN TALO |
| SU | Unrecorded Date
TO;Kaahin and Faxiyo.
Are you Muslim? If you are ask God forgivness,
illegal sexual is forbidden that what our God
said.please read this is more suitable for you.
The Prophet{SCW}said "An adulterer, at time
he is committing ellegal sexual intercourse is
not a believer;and a person, at time of drinking
an alcoholic drink is not a believer;
and a thief, at the time of stealing, is not
a believer." {Sahih Al-Bukhari}
peace. |
| Qore | Unrecorded Date
A/Aleyum
Adultery eats the heart of humanity, that's why our Creator who knows our short comings has forbidded it. To have a perfect and stable familyhood one has to follow the guidlines of our beloved Diin, by falling into the pit holes of the unbelievers who made adultery like having meal we are in the dark and becoming more raffish than them. It is clear this life is a struggle and only those who deviate from the desires of the heart will be successful both in this life and the here after. The kuffaars will tell you otherwise. They will preach to you that success is obtaining degrees, material and pleasure. A good example is the so called president of the free world who was fornicatting with teen age girls while making decions to bring mayham and misery to those who chose not to play their tune. So success lies not in this temporary life but the ever lasting life. Our faith is not against progress education infact it encourages us to reach the highest level in that field, the main message is work and proceed in this life as if you will live forever and on the same token do good deeds(cibaada) as if you will meet your Creator Allah(SWT) tommorow. So brothers and sisters the people your following have just open their eyes in the last two centuries while the man in the desert ruled supreme for more than ten centuries and the reason they ruled that long was because they held their faith in the right hand and "duniya: in the left. Today we are languishing in disarray and begging them while our babeis bend for them because we threw our believe and pricibles out of the window. They are waging a war worst than that tore our country apart, it is our obligation to safe our offsprings from this mayham. Till then Fii amaani Laah. |
| Yohanis | Unrecorded Date
Typical Human Behaviour
Both of you are running in the same level that your Bilological functions allows. Farxiya, you're the most Honest girl i've ever read her story [if this story is true]. However, i have my doubts about your story according to human dignity. Fariya satisfying you needs are important according to human nature but telling him, your affair with another man,is a bit bizzare. For Kaahin, don't be a hypocrate and you need to accept the fact that she is human and need to be entertained. She have feelings and needs like you. Tell me something. If you like to play with that Italian Chick, i doubted her existance, to satisfy your needs why can't she entertain by Guy who could be better then you?
ooh, i know, we[men] hate when our women are seeing another men. Not because we love them dearly, but our credibilty are on the line. Women can compare who is best for them and that is why alot marriages end up in divorce. you deflower fariya because you said," you were her first" but now farxiya has seen another man that makes you mad. Face it, bro, you're scared that she can compare to you with that guy and she can draw her conclusion of who is better for her in bed. that is what is bothering you. be a man and face the challenge and make farxiya determine who is good for her life. Tell her she is free to do what she like and make her responsible for her life. For Farxiya, you haven't done anything wrong . you just exercised your feelings. I love women. specially when they're naked.
Salute........ |
| Qore | Unrecorded Date
It takes a heyna to notice another,
Yohanis by appalauding to adultery, and calling it expressing ones feelings, your showing how misguided you are in your faith(if your Muslim). And frankly your not cheering for human feeling but rather devils desires. Our Allah(SWT) didn't give us our organs, to use them as we see fit, but rather, brought guidelines from the day we set foot on this earth to the day the trumpet will be blown. And every man will answer for his or her conduct, "ogoow cuuryaankaba caga looma waayinee waxaa ceenkaa looga dhigey kuwa cararaaye oo cagaha leh iney ku cilmi qaatan" If our Creator gave us full functioning organs it does not mean we should poke it in every hole that comes our way. Restrain from the desires of the soul because it will lead you astray even though you appeased it's hunger for a while.
Every man possess four natures. 1)Beastly nature,2)Animal,3)Angelic and 4) devilish nature.
Anger is a sign of beastly nature along with enimty, hatred, rebuke, attack on people etc etc.
The animal nature is seen when sexual passoin is arosed. Devilish nature during deceit, fraud and conspiracy etc.Angelic nature is shown in divine service, worship of Allah(SWT) and performing good deeds such as moving a harmfull object from the path of the pedestrains etc etc.
The roots of these four natures are in a human being and centred in human soul. If Man follows sexual passoin and greed, he accuires heinous conducts, such as hauightiness, pride,love of power, self praise, contempt for others, and oppression. If he obeys the devil, he acquires evil conducts such as deciet, decption treachery and fraud etc etc. Now take note Yohanis and co' when Man controls the above evils, he is endowed with divine qualities such as wisdom(which many adultrers lack), Knowledge, certain faith and above all knowledge of the natures of all things.
When he becomes free from the sexaul passion and anger he acquires the following virtues:-
Pardon, contentment and shame. If he keeps anger under control, he gains heroism, kindness, patience, silence etc etc.
So brothers by admitting to your fornication in public and at the same time diong it in a manner where their is no remorse or shame and even bringing to the fold another adultrer, the so called Italian companion your taking this place as the ultimate judgement which you will base on your future moves and plans, well I hope you repent for your short comings because this place is a meagre amusement park when you compare and contamplate what awaits us in the day of reseruction, when your lips will be sealed and every limp will testify against you. Don't let this glitter and fake glamour mislead you, our next destination is, YES you guess it!! the "iiL" when your laid in that dark and spaceless grave and you can hear the footsteps of those who brought you to your transit place on this earth, then every soul will know what it has done, "Allaha nagu astura noloshaan gaaban, aaqirana naga yeela kuwa kitaabkooda gacanta midig laga siindoono" Aamin. |
| cade | Unrecorded Date
Qore
Don't waste your breath, Yohanis is a pimp (gawaad). Soliciting for others is his pride and joy. Having heard farhiya's wild sexual behaviour, he probable senses potential recruit for his disgraceful business venture. |
| Troublegirl | Unrecorded Date
TO YOHANIS
Munafaqnimo lagaama horeyn.
Kaahin
Its all about your love and respect for her.These people may advice you but it is a very delicate issue bro and you need to live with whatever decision you make.So think hard and follow your instincts.I would ask you you to forgive & forget.
Farxiya
Girl U should have Imaan to control your sexual felings.The more patience you have the more Allah will reward you.Don't be tempted by Evil sis.
CADE........I couldn't agree with you more bro.Good on ya |
| PaPa | Unrecorded Date
When we try to analyse this kind of issues we need to ask ourselves something, cause every question begs a question in return ! This could be a test case (fiction or Not) so the question here is, WHO ARE WE ADDRESSING ? A MUSLIM OR A NON MUSLIM ? if the its muslims then the guidlines are clear, it comes from the Quran and Suna. We often fall into the black hole when we diviate from the source and base our analysis on western ideology which we all know is flawed. I beg you my brothers and sisters let us return to the source. Only then will we succeed in our affairs both in this world and the hereafter. May Allah guide us all. |
| Anonymous | Unrecorded Date
I can't believe my EYES. Since when committing a "sin" became a normal?? Where I came from manners and religions counted lot. Brother, thought your satuation is kind of westernize but still that does make you to take someone's innoccence away and meanwhile asks us our opinion. Neither me nor others can tell what you'll do to her. I mean you can decide about that.
Sister, loving him can't solve your problem so either you move on or keep writting and asking us
an advices.
Wasalaama Alaykum
P.S MY ALLAH BOTH OF YOU PUT YOU ON THE RIGHT PATHS |
| Leyla | Unrecorded Date
I dont think you should get back together.
brother, you should have never taken her innocence. how would you feel if a guy did that to ur sister.
sister, you should have not slept with him, i mean its xaram. us somali girls arent suppose to have sex before marrigae. i mean look now , he took away your virginity and he left. you lost him and your lost gabarnidada. so both ways u lost. i dont even that he loves you at all. if he loved you he would have asked you for sex and you are stupid for sleeping with. this is what happens when you dont fear ALLAH. LUCKLY YOU ARE NOT PREGNANT. HE WOULD HAVE LEFT TOO IF YPU WERE. THINK BEFORE YOU ACT. |
| BRO. | Unrecorded Date
TO:
Kaahin and Farhiya:
I have read the different suggestions given by the brothers and sisters. I think it's now the time you two should extract the suitable dicision for you from the above pasted suggestions,and close this topic for good. |
| ilwadqurux | Unrecorded Date
Salaam calykum
To Inspired
Masha'allah, may Allah (swt) increase ur iMan, and for those who think this is ok woe to U.
War Allah ka xishooda, oo haddii udiIn asturay fawaxish tiina Hala iman inta oo Hanaadinin, maxaa yeelay haddaad qarsan lahay waxaa la arkaa inuu allah ku cafinlahaa hasayeshii, haddi aad naadiso waxaa la arkaa inuu san kucafin and Allah know best. Subhanallah, War somaalidii waxay ku dhaqmayaan bal arka? WARYAARA HEE INAMADII IYO HABLIHII MAXAA KUDHACAY, MIYAANAY OGAYN INAY SINADU TAHAY AKABARU FAWAAXISH? wANA udubillah,
As for kahin iyo farhiya, u shouldn't worry of this dunya anymore ur sins have shackled u, so repent to ur lord before it's too late. And if U repent and Fear Allah , He will open A maqraj(a means to escape ur miserlyness and distruction of this world due to ur sinfulness), and He will forgive ur past sinns and cover ur cawra coz Allah IS the mOst MErciful.
MAy Allah (swt) show us the Haq
Peace |
| dhoodaan | Unrecorded Date
to KAHIN!!weligaa ma aragtay gabar iyada iyo saaxiibkeed soo dirireen(muran)...markaad la hadasho soow ma aha gabdhaha midda ugu fudud!!..(beribaan waxaan oran jiray mid lagu soo qarxiyey aloow yaa ku tusa)....waad kala maqnaydeen...dabadeed malaha waad muranteen...!!then the game works like this!!
horta ogoow bahalkan (alaabta dumarka )dhamaan maayo,ninkii kaaga danbeeyeyna raadkiisa arki maysid ,haddey kuu sheegtay inay qaldantay micnihii waa qof isku kalsoon kuna qadarineysa,balse haddaaney dan kaa lahayn intay jiiradaan ku soo nuursato bay gacaliye ku oran!!
nin raga noqo ,gabadha soo dhawee nooceedoo kale lama helee!!! |
| IKRAM | Unrecorded Date
You know what, all i can really say is that you guys must be the best somali couple I've seen so far and it is good that you guys are working out your differences and communicating well.
So work things out and understand each other first and don't let silly things get in the way of your relationship, and keep praying to ALLAH(THE MOST MERCIFUL)to bring lots of blessings to you.
Salamucalaykum.
PEACE.
IMAN |
| mohamed | Unrecorded Date
I think both of you should repent to Allah and search for new partners.
This is over |
| Anonymous | Unrecorded Date
All i can say that they got you !!!!!!
This is ainn't true but anyway keep you argument
carry on taken a piss
bye |
| max | Unrecorded Date
This must be a CASE STUDY, right???? |
| Open-eyes | Unrecorded Date
And yes, the researcher has got enough data on Somali attitudes towards premarital sex. Best and most creative research method I have ever seen.
I love internet, is the only place wher people can be so honesty. Best thing for otherwise hypocratic Somalis |
| khalil | Unrecorded Date
Kaahin:
I, judge khalil, find her guilt! BANG !! BANG !!BAAAM!!!!!(hitting on the table). And i recommend you not to go back. Period. I find her excuse complete no-sense! And call it usaul female conspiracy. In her e-mail, it was clear that she decided to end this relationship. If she really wanted you to show love, she would asked for it.
BANG !! BANG !!BAAAM!!!!!(hitting on the table). Court in session and case closed.recommend |
| khalil | Unrecorded Date
hey Cade:
Maaaaan u cracked me up. Your two lines worth ten. I am not necessrily agree with you what you said about Yohanis. I was only liked the way you put it in English.
for the time being so long! |
| hebel | Unrecorded Date
Which one is less expensive?
If I buy two guiltiness can I get one non-guilty free?
What are the warranties on both guilty and non-guilty?
Can I buy guilty and have non-guilty on layaway?
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Thank U sir. |
| Judge Judy | Unrecorded Date
Kahin and Farhiy:
Guys, You are GUILTY in a count of 1.2.20.100...1000000 ..........and forever ...
The court is Adjourn |
| Anonymous | Unrecorded Date
SORRY ABOUT THAT SIS BUT U MADE THE RONG CHANCE FIRST OF ALL DID U THINKS BEFORE U MAKE THE THIS CHANCE OR THE SOMALI GIRL TALL U TO LEAVE HIM.
BRO I AM SORRY ABOUT THAT, IN THIS PLACE U CANT FUOND A GUY LIKE U .
SORRY |
| hebel | Unrecorded Date
bravo anonymous bravo. |
| kaahin | Thursday, June 22, 2000 - 01:14 pm
thanks for all those advised us it seems as mohamed ibrahim said, i had to change and i did it and now we are happily married, let by gones be by gones........thank you all brother and sisters |
| S.A | Friday, June 23, 2000 - 05:09 am
Kaahin
CONGRATULATIONS
am so happy for u bro and for her, i hope u guys take care of each other for ever, it is nice to know something possitive can come out of it at they end of a negetive.
like said i am happy for both of u take care of each other.
S.A |
