     Want to Know | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 02:41 pm
Hi there people, I am just wondering. Why is sex a such a big deal. I was in a relationship with one guy, and things were going well, until he decided to get intimate with me, and that's when I said I am sorry "but I am saving myself for my husband", it seems like ever since then our relationship went down the hill, and that's why we are not together anymore. So my thoery is, if a guys is just after that, then he is not worth my attention. I have also come to understand that a lot of somalian guys are judging us because we live in this wetern world, and they think that since we are "so westrinesed that it should be okay". I need to hear from what both "sisters and brothers think." I really love him, but he blew his chances with me, by asking me something that was percuous to me, that he didn't even pay a price for. My virginity is my family's respect, myself worthness, and My duty for being Muslim!! Please VOice your oponions!! No rude comments, just pure thoughts people!! |
| Anonymous | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 03:26 pm
To Want to know
First of all it is "Somali guys" not "Somalian guys". There is no such thing Somalian. The country is called Somalia and the people are called either "Somali" in the singular and "Somalis" when plural.
Well read, educated people will never call Somali people as Somalian people.
Now back to the issue. I agree that you should maintain your virginity because this is a mandate for all Muslim girls/women.
But what kind of relationship did you want from this guy. What are the chances that he blew. Does that mean if you guys were together for a little longer he would have gotten it.
In my experience, only patience can win against girly games/manners. Some girls give it after it has been long enough. And what might be long enough for one girl might not be so long enough for another.
I think this is just a game and sooner or later most girls give it out. It is just a matter of the right time and circumstances.
Ahmed |
| SistuhLuv | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 03:51 pm
*Ahmed*: I don't know what to say, whether to agree with when u corrected the sister's minor mistake or not. You basically told her she wasn't "well read and educated" b'cuz she called her people "somalian" instead of "somali", that's pathetic brother and you attacked mercilessly. Anyway, I know that English is not my mother tongue, so I don't give a sh*t if I made stupid mistakes like that, a mistake that deviates us from the point she was trying to make. Oh one other thing, when you said "I agree that you should maintain your virginity because this is a mandate for all Muslim girls/women", what are you trying to say...that Muslim boys/men are not required as well?? Also, when you are talking of experience, it aint about ALL somali girls, because how could you have gone around the community that long? It depends on who you associate with, were they respectable girls, girls who had other things going for them and not looking for the next guy to F***? Ahmed, I think you know what am trying to say.
*Just want to Know*: Sister, all I say to you is, if you know he's only in it for the sex and you're not, that should tell you something. Don't lower your standards because you "love him". Unfortunately, you see more in him, than he does in you. So, keep your head up high, and really evaluate why you r in the relationship for. It seems Islam plays a big role in your life, just keep on that path, not go backwards. Peace N' Good luck |
| Want to know | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 05:29 pm
Wow:
"somalians" keep on suprising me. Ahmed I didn't know I couldn't make mistakes in life at least not in your eyes i guesst. Everything has to be perfect I guess, but you know what I have a suprise for you they aren't. Reality check walaalo. I thank you so much for your input, and I must say that I don't agree with you that girls, would give it up so easily, at least not the ones that have some sense i then still. As the chance my ex below, was the chance that someday we could had something together. Unfortantly it didn't happen that way, and I am kind of glad that it did happen that way. You can't espcape what Allah has intended for your life. I think I am a very well educated young lady who is living her life to the fullest. I have dreams, and something to aim for in life. I would never lower standard, why should I??
Sistahluv:
I would like to thank you for responding to that idiot called "Ahmed". What can I say he can't seem to see beyond the wind shield.!! (get it) locked in his own world, and trying to correct everyone, that he forgat the fact that he is only a human being. That is a shame. I do agree with everything you said, and yes he is not worth my attention(my Ex) that is. As far as me...I am going keep on doing what love doing....living my life to the fullest!!
Pure love
Want to know!! |
| LAMIA | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 06:08 pm
hey sistuhluv girl u said everything you didn't leave anything for me .
to want to know my only advice is keep believing on what you believe in and that guy......... your ex-boyfriend it was his lost not yours.
to Ahmed man you sound like the english teacher. an advice for you don't try to correct me cuz man this isn't my second language this is my third language.
peace out |
| fuad | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 06:56 pm
First of all, This is a concern among our ladies or somali girls. However this is a very well stated point. I'm glad "WANT TO KNOW" set such issue on the table.
My suggestion to you sis, is to be fully aware like u have done of such manipulation deeds from not only ur ex but for anybody else who enters your life in the future.
I personally know from experience many girl friends who dealt with problems like such, and again I influenced them to be strong from head to toe. Coz I believe love comes natural ,, not a forceful manner or pushing idea. In this "wilderness of sabatage" where some of our brothas take advantage of our girls/ and vise versa, "cocky once are the worst kind" The only way to avoid this strategy is to be smart and escape any further relationship regardless of how deep the love boat sings,, a rescue prince will lend you a hand to raise ur soul to the top...... Fuad 1 luv all my characterized ladiez hp I filled an empty spot in your heart "WANT TO KNOW" |
| Want to know | Monday, November 06, 2000 - 07:59 pm
There is a brother who knows what he is talking about Unlike "Ahmed". Once again I must say my humble thanks to Fuad for voicing your thoughts tonight/day. Yes indeed you have filled an empty spot, because you came through for the brothers out there who still respect their sisters. I just wanted to know what people thought of the issue, it's amazing how people respond to something like this. I should penn off, before I bore you guys to death again. Please be very encouraged to voice your thoughts, as we did, and I am guilty as charge cause I started it all. What can I say I am known for having deep conversations with people who can handle the heat!!
Pure love((may thanks again to Sistaluv, and Fuad)
Want to know |
| Im | Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 12:12 am
You should •••• him
Now he is gone, and now is getting cold "winter" and now u don't got husband, take care |
| HANA | Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 05:12 am
FIRST OF ALL I LIKE TO SAY THIS IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION AND I ALWAYS WANTED TO KNOW WHY OUR BROTHER CAN'T WAIT. I MEAN IF THEY SAY THEY LOVE U SHOULDN'T THEY RESPECT OUR RELIGON, TRADITION AS WELL AS RESPECTING OUR WISHES.
I MEAN SHOULDN'T THE MEN BE GLAD WHEN THEIR LADY SAYS SHE IS KEEPING THAT FOR HER HUSBAND (HOPING THAT IT WILL BE HIM). I MEAN ATLEAST THEN U KNOW SHE HASN'T BEEN AROUND AND U SHOULD COUNT YOURSELF LUCKY TO HAVE A LADY SO PURE AND UNTOUCH, FOOLS.
COME ON BROTHER'S JUST BECAUSE WESTENISED PEOPLE ACT THIS WAY DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO.
TO *IM* YOU'RE A FOOL AND AM SORRY TO SAY THAT THE BRAIN BETWEEN YOUR LEGS CONTROLS U. |
| ANAS | Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 05:13 am
Sis Want to know!
I totally agree with you about refusing having a sex with a man that is not your husband, that is out of our religion is not something that we supposed to be doing, but sis. I have several questions for you: What kind of relationship did you guys have? Do you guys do any shape or type of romance "kissing, hugging, holding each other etc". If you didn't do any of those that I have mentioned Masha allah than you are really the woman that every muslim men is dreaming on and I really admire you. But if you did any of those and you realized it was sin and seeking forgiveness from allah, allah will forgive you and you are still the woman that I've mentioned ealier. The point that I am trying to make here is if you have done any of those "kissing, hugging, holding each other etc" and you think it is normal is not Having a sex or loosing your virginity and kissing, hugging, etc. is just a same according to our religion.
Sis. I have seen a lot of sisters who is very confused about this issue and I have always told them the same thing which is what I think is the right but that doesn't mean everybody thinks the same way that I do. but we all know that having a romantic relationship with a man that is not your husband is out of our religion.
I hope sis you found my opinion helpful. Sorry if what I wrote offended you, goodluck with your next relationship.
I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF ENGLISH TEACHERS ON THIS SITE, SO I WOULD RECOMMEND TO THEM NOT TO CHECK MY ERRORS COZ THEY WILL LOOSE THE COUNT BEFORE THEY EVEN FINISH THE FIRST PAROGRAPH "I am still in ESL" |
| Nuur | Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 06:40 am
Sis Hana
I totally agree that man should be happay to hear "Iam keeping this to my husbund" and they should respect that decision. however, sis the question is are all women like that? The reason men go around and ask sex before marriage is the unlimited offers that our sisters give when it comes intimacy, don't get me wrong, I don't mean all women do this, but if you go out and meet 6-7 girls, 2 out of 7 would say no to ingage intimate activity. so, I would say let's educate more our sisters who deliberetly accept to have intimate relation with the men, and leter claim "it was not a good relation" I respect our religion, and there is no way that I would allow sex BOFORE MARRIAGE, still let's make the issue a mutual problem as suppos to single problem.
Have my apology sis if I seemed offensive
THANKS!
Nuur Gaytaano |
| OUTLAW_21 | Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 07:57 am
LOL@ ANAS MUCH RESPECT TO U AND TO THAT LADIES THAT WANT TO KNOW WHY WELL I GUESS THE GUYS DID NOT ANSWER YOU LADIES LEAVING THE QUESTION TO YOURS TRULLY (ME). WHY CAN'T THE SOMALI BROTHERS WAIT?,THE ANSWER LIES IN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. IT DEPENDS ON THE GIRLS/LADIES THAT THE FELLAS ARE DEALING WITH, IT DEPENDS ON THE WAY YOU ACT AND REACT WHEN A MAN COMES UP TO U AND ASKES YOU TO HAVE SEX WITH HIM AND IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU WERE ACTING BEFORE THAT LADY.
WHAT IAM GETTING AT IS IF YOU RESPECT YOUR SELF IN FRONT OF HIM IAM 100% SURE HE WILL TREAT WITH YOU RESPECT.
IF YOU FLOUNT IT THEN YOU ARE MAKING THE GUY HORNY AND WEAK LETTING HIS DICK DO THE THINKING.
IAM SURE WHEN HE WAS NOT FEELING HORNY ANY MORE THAT GUY REGRATED AND FELT SORRY(SPEAKING FROM EXPIERANCE) IAM SORRY THAT IT DID NOT WORK OUT.
I TRULLY AM BUT WALKING AWAY WON'T RESOLVE A THING THERE WILL BE AN ANOTHER GUY ASKING YOU THE SAME QUESTION AND THEN ANOTHER AND THEN ANOTHER UNTIL YOU SAY IS THAT WHAT ALL SOMALI GUYS ARE AFTER?
WELL SPEAK TO UR EX AND EXPLAIN TO HIM THE THINGS YOU EXPLAINED HERE LADY.
WALKING AWAY WON'T GET YOU ANY WHERE. TALK ABOUT IT FIRST. |
| Mh | Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 09:48 am
To all the Sisters:
I really agree with u not doing anything before you are married, but one thing I want to ask you why did you involved in relationship when you are not ready for marriage? But if you were ready, did u ask him a marriage proposal? Then if he said no to you, you have the right to break up with him and he has the right to be an asswhole.
Love all the strong sisters. |
| Want to Know | Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 11:05 am
Thanks people once again, you guys are coming through like what>>Indeed I did talk to him, and just didn't decide to walk away this was someone whom I thought I could share the rest of my life with...other wise I would've never bothered. He said that he thought about marrying me, but I told him that I didn't think he was ready for anything like that, and he was probably saying it so he won't feel bad, about the break--up. I welcomed him with open arms whatever path he chose to take was fine with me. I am probably one of the most understanding person he would ever meet and he knows that. I had no reason to hold on to him, nor did I have any judgement againest him. If that was what he wanted then, I am sure he will get it from someone else, and I should be free to do live with my decisions. I just want to thank you for viocing your thoughts, and keep it coming, cause I know there are some of you out who were wondering about the issue just didn't have the guts to say it!! So be glad there is someone so out spoken like me, who isn't afraid of judgements. Please remeber that the decisdions you make in life, yours and only yours.!!
Pure Love
Want to Know |
| Midajah | Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 01:36 pm
"want to know", first and for most i'm blown away by your individuality, your strength, beliefs, and courage to stand up to someone and express what you so deeply feel. If he can't respect your wishes, then you know he wasn't ment to be. I understand what your going through, all the time i see sistah's in there early ages giving birth and not knowing who the father of the baby is? or the fathers not taking there responsibility rights and walking out on them. I mean think about it, what if this was you? but by imperativing and refusing his suggestion you saved yourself the heartache,and that shows a lot.
Sis what you feel is not love for this guy, and i know i have no right interfering with your feelings , but think about it , a guy that can't respect you is a guy you shouldn't be wasting your precious time on, let along love him. Remeber there is someone , somewhere who can treat you far better than before, it just needs your first step and leap to get up and look for it.
take-care: |
| AMINA | Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 02:10 pm
THIS IS WHAT AMINA THINKS:
A MAN, MUSLIM SOMALI BRO. WHO ASKS A MUSLIM SISTA TO SLEEP WITH HIM IS A LOOSER N IS NOT WORTH UR PRECIOUS TIME. AND REMEBER SEX B4 MARRIEGE IS XARAAM!! I DON'T THINK THAT ANY MAN IS WORTH HELL FIRE - NOT 4 ME ANYWAYS.
SISTERS IT DON'T MATTER HOW MUCH HE SAYS HE LOVES U, IF THEY HAD ANY RESPECT OR LOVE FOR THEY WOULD COME TO UR DADY N ASK 4 U IN MARRIEGE! SIS "JUST WANT TO KNOW" I BET UR EX WOULD FREAK OUT IF SOME1 DID THE SAME TO HIS SIS. HE WAS SOME1 THAT WAS OUT 4 A BIT OF FUN BUT HE CHOSE THE WRONG GAL TO PLAY WITH COZ IT ALL BLEW IN THE SUCKERS FACE!! LOL.
ANYWAYZ MY SIS I LIKE UR ATTITUDE SO KEEP IT UP!!
MH I HEAR WOT U SAYING MY BRO.. BUT CAN'T KNOW U WANNA MARRY THEM, TILL U GET 2 KNOW THEM, RIGHT? |
| Want to Know | Wednesday, November 08, 2000 - 06:29 pm
thanks Amina and Mh: for responding the way that you both did. Amina you right, how can you marry someone you don't even know. For me it's simple if the guy doesn't love me enough to wait til marriage he is not worth my attention.
It seems like to me that there guys out there, just want to get the easy way out. They want to sleep with girls, and don't want to take responsibilty. A real man would step up to the blate, and be man about the issue. If you are not ready for marriage don't ask for "Sex", respect your sisters, cause tomorrow they will the ones that you will end-up marrying.
I don't know what we can do as a community to change these man who think, screwing girls over is the best thing that could ever happen to them, and sometimes you know what I don't blame them , cuase the girls let them. It's a shame, but girls think about it, if you are strong, and stand by your rules no guy would dare to cross without percution.
Remeber that yourself worthness is greater then "20min" satisfaction of some jerk that thinks your not worth marrying. Please be strong girls, don't let no man, or anyone for that matter tell that your not worth waiting for, no matter how much he says he loves. Think about it if he loves you, then shouldn't he love enough to wait for til marraige. Do the right thing, and as far as I am concerned My life couldn't be more greater then it is right now. I have everything I have wished, and I know that being a human being I will go through my ups and down, but hey that's life can't escape it.
I thank all so much for taking the time contributing to this matter I put before you!!
Pure LOve
Want to know |
| Cutie | Thursday, November 09, 2000 - 04:00 am
says who Somali is right and Somalian is not right
I am Cambridge University student:
According to the dictionary both ways are right, and actually most people prefere to use the one you said was wrong.
example one may say:
I am-
South-African
Canadian
American
Ethoipain
Kenyan
Or even:
We, they are is also applicable.
I would like to know where that indivdual got there facts from?. |
| sister | Thursday, November 09, 2000 - 06:14 am
Whant to now more power to you sis if your ex asked you such a question he wasn't wrot you time anyway sis and a real dessent somali men wouln't ask a sis he respected that anyway.
I think u made the right choice sister i just wish there were more sisres like you guys.If there were more of us the guys wouln't even ask for sex but they figure try 100 and at least 50 will say okay.
To Ahmed Woooooooooooow walaalo take it easy u not the teacher over here.
And that point u made about the girls give in up sooner or latter well bro u been meeting the wrong sister some of us are not that easy u could try 10000000000 times and you would get nothing.
Don't think that all the ladies are the same we all different and we all have different ways of life too.
To all the sis's and bro's plzzzzzzz remember ALAH and do not go there anyhing alse is iaght but keep averthink clean if you get me. |
| SistuhLuV~ | Thursday, November 09, 2000 - 06:26 am
Want 2 Know:
Girl, it seems like you know what you are doing. First of all, I would like to thank you for posting and inspiring sisters (including me) about this critical issue. Girls, be strong and please, please , refer to our spiritual values of self-respect. That is Islam, where Muslim ladies are treated with the utmost respect and restores their dignity. I'm sure that most Somali girls are faced with this Issue at one time of their life. Resisting these "offers" will protect you from hurt and you know what , in the end the smuck leaves ya. Because, if a man is insisting on SEX, then I say he isn't man enough to back down when his offer is declined. Infact, that should tell you something. He isn't the man 4 U. Anyway WANT 2 KNOW, I am glad that he is your EX now...
Cutie: You know what, that is a good good question. Some people had me believe that Somali was referred to our people, rather than Somalian. I like to know "why" and the source as well. |
| ... | Thursday, November 09, 2000 - 10:33 am
To Ahmed
It is not only required for the women in Islam to be virgins, but also the men
To Want to know
Dear sister, if a man comes between you and your faith and askes you to "give it up", then you know that he is not worth your time. |
| True | Friday, November 10, 2000 - 10:49 am
Hahahahahahhaha very funny....want to know what's love?if ya did love the guy then u would let him •••• u in da ass forget about the pussy,so don't come here and bullshit like that coz simply we don't buy it...Halimo stick to what u are!hope u understand. |
| Anonymous | Friday, November 10, 2000 - 12:38 pm
In all, this is a delicate topic to all concerned Somali muslims (practicing or not).I read what everybody had to say , and while some of you couldn't keep focused with the main question initially posed(grammar is irrelevant), others had some key points.
To the girl who asked the Q:We all basically know the different between "haram & halal", and you know what is right for you and only you.Asking such an intricate question so broadly, and expecting to recieve one general response is impossible! I'm also taking into consuderation that you are young, impressionable, and in need of some guidance on this matter. But asking a bunch of hypocritically strangers on how they would behave in similar situations, was all wrong!
1)Somali people overall tend to confuse religion & cultural, never knowing where to draw that fine line
observation:just one person emphasized the virginity of the males !!! sad
2)yes , I do agree with you that your virginity is precious, but IT DOES NOT DEFINE YOU AS A WOMAN!There is a huge diferrence between someone who is in a monogamous relationship , and someone who is premiscuous.
Don't let a society that is based on thinking homogeneously (together)& make you feel less of a woman.Men & women have been have sexual relations before marriage since the beginning of time, what you chose to do , is between you and Allah!
DON'T LET PEOPLE JUDGE YOU,THAT'S NOT WHAT YOUR PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSE TO DO.
All the best to you in all your future endevours, sexual relationships or not. |
| want to Know | Friday, November 10, 2000 - 01:06 pm
Dear Anonymous:
Woow take it easy on me there will ya. Let me catch my breath. There is nathing wrong with asking people what they think of something. People are different and we all have our different views about certain things, and how they effect our lives. I never said I wanted a general answer, because like I said before people are different, and I am one to know that since I have my own view like you do as well. You said that "Men & women have been have sexual relations before marriage since the beginning of time, what you chose to do , is between you and Allah!" I truly understand that, but I am not one to do it. My virginty is my dignity and how much I care about myself, and no that is not the only thing that defines who I am. I am a writer, a sister, will be a mother someday(Insha Allah), but truly a good human being who just expressed what she thought about a situation that she once got into. I don't need any guidance, I think I am guided in the right direction, but I thank you so much for looking in to this matter rather more deeply then others have!!
Pure Love
Want to know |
| Amina | Saturday, November 11, 2000 - 02:19 pm
He ppl i am baaaaack!! (ok don't all log off lol)
Just to add to my last as i feel that i came too hard on the brothers.. You can't blame it all on the brothers coz there must be something in the sisters actions that lead the brotherto think that he can ask such a questions. Like that saying goes "dushiisa laga arkaa, ushiisa lagu tumaa" (i hope i got it right!!)
Basicaly my dear brothers n sisters we all know and accept that sex b4 marriege is haram. but we all seem to forget is that any action or behaviour that can lead to this is also xaraam. u know u can't sit there n tell a bro well its okay 4 us 2 get physical as long as we don't do it.. heeeeeeeeello!!! Doesn't that open doors 2 so many temptation and where do u draw the line???
That is where all the conflict comes from: not knowing where 2 draw the line. My advice is exactly wot sister said remember Allah!!!
And to the brother its really sad to c how u al are not worried the issue of keeping urself chaste.. beleive me there is nothing cute about a guy who has been around the block n back (just think of all the deseases out there- damn). it is xaraam 4 u 2 and Allah is watching over u 2..
To ahmed n the cambridge university students- the fact that u guys concerene urselfs with such a minor issue (spelling of a word)shows ur shallowness!!! This is a discussion board not an assessment board okay so chillout a bit aight!
To sis wanna know- i am not having a go at ya sis- just stating fact 4real.
Salams |
| Want to Know | Sunday, November 12, 2000 - 03:31 pm
Amina could agree with ya more! It is very true all the things you mentioned. Thank you so much for being so open minded!!
Pure Love
Want to Know |
| hellowman | Monday, November 20, 2000 - 05:57 am
To you want know
I real tottally disagree all ya.
I have a relationship with someone who we broke up one year ago
we was together for to long enought, let say 4 year fore. is that long enought peopl, I hope so
let me touch little bit fore why did i break up, i didn't want to have sex with her
I never consider to have sex with her. but to bad she though I'm intersting the thing.
our intimate wasn't about sex honesly I break up with her because I told her the most intimate details of my personal was to reompense to her someday.however.
people let me get down to other business
as (miss you want know) said in she doesn't wanted loos her virginilly to bad someday you will loose that.
bye anyway I don't have enough to time
sencerly: freeman |
| ••••••• | Monday, November 20, 2000 - 08:23 am
I THINK YOU ARE A SICKO BITCH YOU KNOW WHY EITHER WAY YOU WILL BE FUCKED SO WHY WAIT LATTER ON WHEN YOU CAN HAVE IT KNOW AND WHATS WITH THE HUSBAND PART WHAT..ITS ONLY A DATING BUT SOME HOW I DON'T
BLAME YOU BECOUSE YOU AND SOME SOMALI GIRLS DON'T GET THAT HORNY SOME TIMES BUT TAKE IT OUT ON YOUR DAD OR MOM DON'T TAKE IT OUT ON US WE JUST WANT TO •••• THATS ALL AND DEEP INSIDE YOU WANT THE SAME TOO BUT YOU DON'T FEL LIKE YOU SHOULD SAY SO
BUT IT DON'T MATTER WEATHER YU WAIT AND GET IT OVER WITH I GIVE YOU ONE ADVICE IF I WERE YOU I GET IT OVER WITH COUSE EITHER WAY YOU WILL LOOSE IT SOONER THER BETTER...LOL WHAT CUNT YOU ARE
LOL
NO WONDER SOMALI BITCHES LIKE YOU STILL AROUND..
GET OVER IT PLEASE.. THAT WAS BACK THEN THIS IS NOW WERE EVRY ONE •••• THE FIRST NIGHT..HELLOOOOOOOOO |
| geeljire | Monday, November 20, 2000 - 09:39 am
girlfriend,you better give it up before you get too fat for meeaningfull sex!
think about it. |
| Want to Know | Monday, November 20, 2000 - 07:08 pm
To Hollowman:
You really made no sense to me what so ever. So please next time be more clear, because I really did not understand the concept of your comment. That is one.
To....and Giiljire I suggest..ooh man I suggest you guys think about the issue more deeply, and comment on it. There are a lot of things I am avoiding, and guys are one of those things!! However I do thank for you comments,,,,people are different, and I am one to know that by now. I stand by my decision, and nathing will change that!!
Peace and be wise people
Want to Know! |
| atlanta girl | Monday, November 20, 2000 - 10:02 pm
HOLLO MAN WHAT AN IDIOT YOU ARE YOU AND THAT FAKE BITCH THERE MAKE A GOOD COUPLE ANYWAYS I GOTTA SAY ONE THING THAT IS WHY WAIT KNOWING YOU WILL GET FUCKED ONE DAY BUT I HEARD SOME SOMALAIN WOMAN LIKE TO TAKE IT IN THE ASS SO WHAT IS VIRGIN TO YOU WANA KNOW GIRL THERE BUT DID YOU ATLEAST GIVE THE GUY A BLOW JOB I FEEL SORRY FOR THAT GUY BY FOR NOW |
| HELLOWMAN | Wednesday, November 22, 2000 - 03:56 pm
To you want know
back to business
as you said you didn't even understand me at all ;you get your point girl, how can i explain to you something girl.
you said you had a relationship with a guy, who you cares about him that much, when he try to intimate with you. the relationship went down the hill, so you was
let me give you one little advice laddy I'm not that perfect, but let me try my best, I tell you what get back to him and opoligies to him , why are you saving your virginty. you may loose someday incase you get horny i know what somalian young girls if they loos their virginty they are not any more long girl, that is why most of somalian dating out other, because of you guys, I wluld like to tell something if you really love him please do him what ever he want from you , he may married you . who knows, i know the guy he is intersting the ••••, who can't live with out sex, if i talk about myself I can't live with sex, in personal thing i believe, Don't wonder is life
BYE TAKE CARE I HAVE GO CLASS
I HOME THIS ADVICE WILL HELP YOU
SENCERLY: FREEMAN FROM B_CITY
TO ATLANTGIRL
FIRLST HOW ARE YOU DOING sister I hope you doing WELL SISTER
YOU DON'T HAVE TO INSULTED THE BROTHER PERPHAS I my BECOME YOUR HUSBAND SOMEDAY WHO KNOWS
I TELL YOU WHAT I DON'T MESS AROUND WITH SOMALIAN GIRLS THEY NOT WORTH SERIOUSLY.
I MYSELF I DAT OTHER LIKE SPANISH, BLACK, WHITE, ASIAN, THEY PROUD OF AND I'M PROUD OF THEM
SO THING IS GOING WELL SO FAR. SEMPLE I USE TO DATING SOMALIAN CHICK WHO DOENS'T WANTED TO HAVE SEX, WHEN I'M DATING SOMEONE I WANT SLEEP WITH THAT PERSOM, AM I WRONG IF I'M WRONG CORRECT ME PLEASE,
BYE
PEACE AND BULLSHITE
SENCERLY: FREEMAN FROM B_CITY
SORRY PEOPLE MY SPELLING I DON'T HAVE TO TO CORRECTED THE SPELL |
| Want to KNow | Monday, November 27, 2000 - 08:22 am
Hellowman:
I can't beleive this. You still don't make any sense, but I think you are doing a bit better then last time. Well walaal it is Ramadan kow dheh so I will get back to you on Eid! and by the way I still haven't changed my mind, and I have nothing,,,and I mean nothing to apologize for!
peace and be safe!
Ramadan alkariim!
Want to know |
| KISS THE GIRL | Monday, November 27, 2000 - 10:31 am
To the Girls!!
What kind of relationship did you had with that guy anyway?
______________________________
!!AND MEN WILL ALWAYS BE MEN!!
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I mean men can't just be in love with a girl/women if he knows that she loves him too. I mean how can he love you and stay with you while the most important thing is missing from that love! could not you guys get married if you loved each other? |
| kiss the girl | Monday, November 27, 2000 - 10:47 am
To Hollowman!!
I think you are what your name says you are. I mean how could you make sense if you are "HOLLOW" Well maybe you don't even know what hollow means, you probably just seen the movie bro..
I am out!!!!!!!!! :-) |
| PROUD BRO. | Tuesday, November 28, 2000 - 11:45 am
WANT TO KNOW: I GIVE U PROBES FOR THAT, THE GOOD THING IS THERE R STILL VIRGIN SOMALI GIRLZ, PROUD OF U KEEP IT THAT WAY, I REGRET MINE, BUT WHAT THE HELL, THEY R HORMONES AND IS HARD TO CONROL BUT U CONTROLLING IT, I WISH MOST SOMALI GIRLZ WERE LIKE U SPECIALLY THE ONES WHO R LIVING IN MY HOOD.
PROUD BRO. |
| Want to Know | Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 09:58 am
To Proud Bro:
Walaahi I thank you very much, on giving me my props. It is kind of hard to get people to see where your are coming from. However I am glad there is someone out there who feels what I am talking about. Honestly thank you very much on a comment well done!
Salaama"
Want to know (sister) |
| confused-bro | Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 10:49 am
need to know
sister I am mr:nice guy,polite,never touches never demandes sex before marriage,yet again somaligirls seem to be turned off by that!!?
am begining to think that somaliwomen are not for me
ramadan kareem
your confused brother |
| want to know | Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 11:19 am
Confused Brother:
hmm that is a hard one. Walaahi, I don't know what can kind of girls you have been dealing with, but it seems strange that some guys who is really nice can't seem to find a Somalain sister. Do remeber that some girls like their bad boys not so much of them being bad, but like the touching, and kissing, and holding and all stuff,,,so perhaps they feel that if you don't ask for that then you are not interested. I can't really speak for anyone except myself, and for me the bottom line is very clear no sex before merraige in my life! No touchy feelingsss non of that stuff...that is just too haraam for me! Hope someday that you will find you better half who is clean as you are!
Wishing you the best of luck!
Want to know |
| WiilSoomaaliyeed | Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 12:50 pm
HI WANT TO KNOW, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU AND YOUR EX WEREN'T ON THE SAME PAGE AND HE MAY HAVE GOTTEN WRONG IDEA ON THE RELATIONSHIP. SISTER, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT SITUATION, HAD YOU NOT BECOME BOYFRIEND/GIRLFRIEND, MEANING IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE A BOYFRIEND, THE EXPECTATIONS ARE, THERE WILL BE SOME KIND OF SEXUAL ACTIVITY GOING ON. HE IS NOT ONLY TO BLAME FOR THIS, YOU KNEW THAT HAVING BOYFRIEND WILL BRING SOME KIND OF SEXUAL THING BETWEEN YOU TOO. YOU SHOULDN'T EXPECT A GUY YOU ARE GOING OUT WITH TO JUST SIT THERE AND GET NO FEELINGS FOR YOU. HE IS A MAN AND WILL TRY TO KISS YOU OR DO WHATEVER, BUT YOU ARE TREATING HIM LIKE HE'S YOUR BROTHER. SISTER, IF YOU WANT TO PRESERVE YOURSELF FOR YOUR FUTURE HUSBAND, THEN YOU SHOULDN'T GO OUT WITH A GUY AT ALL. ONE REASON IS, BEING A MUSLIM WILL NOT ALLOW TO HAVE A BOYFRIEND AND ANOTHER REASON IS, YOU SAID THAT YOU HAVE TO RESPECT YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY, WELL HAVING ONE, DOESN'T DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S AGAINST OUR RELIGION. PLEASE, DON'T TAKE MY VIEW AS AN ATTACK, I'M MERELY MAKING A POINT AND SHOULD BE TAKEN AS SUCH.
PEACE TO YO'LL. |
| Want to Know | Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 02:08 pm
WiilSoomaliyeed:
Walaal that is a very interesting comment you made, however I would like to know what your solution would be to my problem. Here are the facts, there is not way you can't have a relationship with a person if you are going to marry them. We can't live like the "Asxaabtii", and say that I am just going to stay at home, and wait for someone to marry me. As you know these days the world is a very demanding place to live in. So many rules to go by, and still trying to hold on to what Allah intended to be right is not all that easy. All I am saying is that I want to have a relationship with a guy, without going all the way or doing anything that may disrespect me. There is nothing wrong with that is there?? However you have nothing to worry about at this moment I have put that aside, I have too many things to concentrate on my life right now, then to getting into a stupid relationship. DOn't get me wrong being in a relationship is great, but it also has it's curcustances! I guess I just wanted all in the easy way, but in reality I know I can't that is why I stay on my own!
Want to know
PS>>Thank you for posting your view on my page I really do apreciated |
| somalian sista | Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 02:59 pm
hi 'WANT TO KNOW'..i wanna apologise for the way ur comment has been treated..by the ppl in this forum..having said that..i would like to add that not all were bad..just immature ppl..and english teachers..mistunderstand the point u were trying to bring across..it sadens that we as muslim womans in a western world have to be pressured to live in cages..'to have a reslatonship or not to have a relationship' thats the question..but what is the answer to this problem to be woman of the millenium, to obey our culture..to follow our religion ways.. to have self respect now all that can be done however diffult it is..and u have proved that u have the willpower..why then should that stop u to have a meaningfull relationship with someone u love?..dont u derseve it?..now noone can answer that question for u.. what anyone says wont matter cuz U can only HELP yourself..i can only tell u this..i know someone who had a boyfriend
..now humans have feelings and ofcourse i wont say he didn't ask her the same question ur ex did but what matters is what happened after that.. will the truth is he respected her wishes and fours years later they were MARRIED..i know this cuz that person was ME..so u see U will ONE DAY inshalla find that someone who will look beyond physical attraction..U will only just have to be patient and carry on the path ur following..anyways sis ramadan karim to u..
take of urself
1luv |
| somalian sista | Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 03:07 pm
hi 'WANT TO KNOW'..i wanna apologise for the way ur comment has been treated..by the ppl in this forum..having said that..i would like to add that not all were bad..just immature ppl..and english teachers..mistunderstand the point u were trying to bring across..it sadens ME that we as muslim womans in a western world have to be pressured to live in cages..'to have a relatonship or not to have a relationship' thats the question..but what is the answer to this problem to be woman of the millenium, to obey our culture..to follow our religion ways.. to have self respect now all that can be done however diffult it is..and u have proved ur willpower NOT only to ur EX but to everyone..why then should that stop u to have a meaningfull relationship with someone u love?..dont u derseve it?..now noone can answer that question for u.. what anyone says wont matter cuz U can only HELP yourself..i can only tell u this..i know someone who was in a serious RELATIONSHIP.. now humans have feelings and ofcourse i wont say he didn't ask her the same question ur ex did but what matters is what happened after that.. will the truth is he respected her wishes and fours years later they were MARRIED..i know this cuz that person was ME..so u see U will ONE DAY inshalla find that someone who will look beyond physical attraction..U will only just have to be patient and carry on the path ur following..anyways sis ramadan karim to u..
take of urself
1luv
PS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT UR ADVISE WAS ONE WORTH OF READING SISTERLOVE |
| Anonymous | Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 04:22 am
ayusuf
Well, it appears there isn't anything for me to say cuz everything has been said very much. I need to raise a point which many of you fail to mention the course of this whole debate. 1st I want to say that I have a tremendous respect whoever wants not to fondle until they get married, because of our religion as Muslims. I am not surprise some guys wants to take game all the way to down town because historically it has been proven that most Somali girls will do everything else except SEX. I think this is a big misleading on their part letting us do items that eventually make us apart like this "classic situation we have here". To make a long story short, if Somali girls wants not have a pre-martial sex then act like from the beginning. I believe most of you clearly understand what I am talking about. We analytically think being a virgin is what separate been from good girl to hor. |
| WiilSoomaaliyeed | Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 11:19 am
I AGREE WITH ANON FOR COMMENTING ABOUT HOW SOMALI GIRLS HISTORICALLY THINK THAT BEEN VIRGIN IS THE ULTIMATE THING WHEN THEY ARE SEXUALLY ACTIVE IN OTHER AREAS. I THINK THAT NO MATTER HOW YOU TAKE IT, SEX IS SEX, AS LONG AS THOSE PERSONS INVOLVED GET STIMULATED. WHAT'S THE SOLUTION: WELL, EVERY SITUATION IS UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT. WHATEVER TWO PEOPLE AGREE ON SHOULD BE THEIR RULE OF HOW THEY ARE GONA GO ABOUT THEIR RELATIONSHIP. WHETHER THAT'S WAITING UNTILL MARRIAGE OR DOING IT FROM THE GET GO. I, PERSONALLY, DON'T THINK IT DOES ANY GOOD, WHEN TWO PEOPLE FONDLE WITHOUT HAVING TO DO THE "YAMYAM". DO IT OR WAIT. I'M NOT ADVOCATING BROTHERS TO PRESURE OUR SISTERS INTO SEX.
FOR "WANT TO KNOW"'S SITUATION, IF YOU DECIDE TO HAVE A BOYFRIEND AND HE PRESURES YOU TO DO ANYTHING WELL, THAT'S A SIGN OF "THINGS AREN'T WORKING OUT GOOD",TIME TO MOVE ON(LIKE YOU DID). ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG FOR HAVING TO WAIT UNTILL YOU ARE READY FOR MARRIAGE, THEN GO TO THE MOSQUE OR ASK YOUR FRIENDS TO HOOK YOU UP WITH SOMEONE(WHO'S A GOOD MUSLIM). I'M NOT GIVING YOU AN ADVICE, IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION SISTER.
PEACE TO YO'LL |
| Amaal | Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 12:24 pm
DAG PEOPLE..... YOU GUYS ALL SAID EVERYTHING!!!!
ANYWAYS, I am glad that people still support one another and ppl, admitt it we do take our virginy seriously, maybe some of us not all. I am saying I love my Somali brothers and I am not ready to lose something I had for 20years and kept me safe. If you guys disagree, well Somali men who want to have sex, it is a fact, THEY WOULD NOT WANT TO KEEP U IN THEIR BED BECAUSE TO TELL THE TRUTH, NO ONE WANTS TO MARRY A WHORE..EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE, AND THOSE WHO ARE NOT VERGINS, GIIIIRRRRLLLLLS HOW DOES IT FEEEL, WAS IT WORTH IT OR NOT! LET ME KNOW, STILL I AM NOT GIVING UP. I HAVE DATED PLENTY OF SOMALI, BLACK, HISPANIC AND ASIANS, OUT OF ALL OF THEM, 7 ASKED MY TO HAVE SEX WITH THEM, GUESS WHO THEY WERE.....SOMALIS!!! So, I am inlove with my somali brothers, and there is nothing wrong being asked, The q is what do U DO AFTER THEY DO THAT! I didn't break up with them because of that, it was other issues. I am saying those who like other races..WHAT HELL, GO FOR IT IT IS FREE COUNTRY, BUT REMEMBER NO ONE CAN UNDERSTAND U BETTER THAN YOUR OWN PPL, AND NO ONE WILL APPRECIATE U BETTER THEN OTHER PPL. SORRY, GIRL IF I WENT TO OTHER SUBJECTS, Girl if u still care for him, Don't give ur verginity until u r ready and don't lose him because of ur verginity, find better solution to solve ur problem,,,DON'T BOTHER TO CORRECT ME BECAUSE I AM STILL IN SCHOOL AND SIS GOOD LUCK AND ALL THOSE WHO SHARED SOMETHING, MAY ALLAH BLESS ALL OF YOU!! TAKE CARE ONE ANOTHER AND YOUR LOVE ONES!!
SISTA Amaal |
| faarax | Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 12:36 pm
I am puzzled |
| Want to Know | Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 02:37 pm
Much to Love to everyone who have commented on my page. It was a question that was buzzeling, me and I thought hey it wouldn't hurt if I did ask.
WiilSoomaliyeed:
Walaal, no disrespect to you or anything like, but I am not the type of sister that just wants to get married so quickly, and easily, just because it is the right thing. And I don't even know if I will ever merry!
To all the sister...Ohh my ALLAH you guys held it down like whoaaaa!! Please don't try to correct me either, cause I am just writing(free stlying is what they call it). Hmm! I am actaully looking forward to having a great life, and maybe I will have a relationship, maybe I won't, but I have other things that I as a person want to acheive. I actually like being on my own I can't imagine loosing that again, but I know you have give up somethings, in order to get things.
Hopefully someday I will inspire some young ladies on how to treat their bodies, and young man as well. We all need to learn together as a community. And for all those man who think,,"well if she loves me then she should sleep with me". I have one question for you.."Did anyone die because they didn't have Sex?? Is there such a thing No sex No Love?? I beleive that you can have sex with whom ever you want, it doesn't mean you love them. My point is if someone loves you, and they think the world of you,,,the love should be strong enough to wait for you!!
I am out so I don't have to confuse anyone!
Want to know! |
| HAAHURA CALI | Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 06:06 pm
GOOD LUCK WANT TO KNOW, AND DON'T GIVE UP U R THE ONE WHO IS ON RIGHT TRACK. |
| WANT TO KNOW | Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 12:56 pm
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE...
WANT TO KNOW! |
