Tru leaders of your sub clan

Daily chitchat.

Moderators: Moderators, Junior Moderators

Forum rules
This General Forum is for general discussions from daily chitchat to more serious discussions among Somalinet Forums members. Please do not use it as your Personal Message center (PM). If you want to contact a particular person or a group of people, please use the PM feature. If you want to contact the moderators, pls PM them. If you insist leaving a public message for the mods or other members, it will be deleted.
User avatar
fagash_killer
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 13942
Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2004 3:28 pm
Location: And You Can Run For ya Back-up But Them Machine Gun Shells Gone Tear Ya back Up

Re: Tru leaders of your sub clan

Post by fagash_killer »

Siday u socdaan boqol sano ka bacdi waxay isku qabsan doonan inuu Gen. Caydiid ahaa ilkayar. Waar duulkanaa, ilaahay tarikh xumo intuu baday ayay taarihkhda intaa dib u qora isleeyin.

Xayawaan shalay la soo muslimiyey oo just 100 years ago used to worship their God Waaq at CaabudWaaq, and they are claiming Ahmed Gurey.

What is the chance of finding someone with the nickname "Gurey" in Caabudwaaq? Laughing
Last edited by fagash_killer on Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:20 pm, edited 3 times in total.
User avatar
Starscream
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 2526
Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:16 am
Location: Qardho District.

Re: Tru leaders of your sub clan

Post by Starscream »

Imaam Axmed Gurey was of Ilma Koombe, Geri Koombe to be precise. The royal family of Daarood.
cabdallah252
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 3226
Joined: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:25 pm
Location: Greater Majeerteeniya

Re: Tru leaders of your sub clan

Post by cabdallah252 »

mahamuud saleebaan are not the leader of majeerteen

bicidyahan+reer mahmoud+wabeneye+ali saleebaan+others combined are much larger then them
Mrs Musika man
SomaliNetizen
SomaliNetizen
Posts: 621
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:53 pm
Location: XAMAR cadey - Musika-Sultan-of-Banadiir, Majerteen-Abgaal Capitalistic Alliance (MACA)

Re: Tru leaders of your sub clan

Post by Mrs Musika man »

Laughing
User avatar
DawladSade
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 13940
Joined: Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:38 pm
Location: Xornimo

Re: Tru leaders of your sub clan

Post by DawladSade »

[quote="fagash_killer"]Siday u socdaan boqol sano ka bacdi waxay isku qabsan doonan inuu Gen. Caydiid ahaa ilkayar ahaa. Waar duulkanaa, ilaahay tarikh xumo intuu baday ayay taarihkhda intaa dib u qora isleeyin.

Xayawaan shalay la soo muslimiyey oo just 100 years ago used to worship their God Waaq at CaabudWaaq, and they are claiming Ahmed Gurey.

What is the chance of finding someone with the nickname "Gurey" in Caabudwaaq? Laughing[/quote]


Fiiri nacnada daa, Taariikh yaan keenay..bring me one place, even ONE place "gudabiirsi" ku qorantahay. Warkuba wuu iska cadyahay
User avatar
fagash_killer
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 13942
Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2004 3:28 pm
Location: And You Can Run For ya Back-up But Them Machine Gun Shells Gone Tear Ya back Up

Re: Tru leaders of your sub clan

Post by fagash_killer »

^^Ali madaxweyn dir of the Gurgure according to the southren dir of mudug region was the leading head of the Axmed Gurey soldiers and Axmed Ibraahim ghazi was a Gurgure him self. His wife Baatiyo Delwabero was of the Jarso clan. The Gurgure along with their kinsman the Guure/Akisho/ were know in the 1400's as Maanguudo by the oromo's and Afar muslins. Maan(wisdom) Guudo (high). As a matter of fact when the Gurgura Ali Madaxweyn ruled the Ifat they sent the first Islamic missions to Northern Somalia as Sheikh Awbarkhadle, Aw Buube, Awbare,and other sheikhs to the South like Aw Hussen al Bale who was of Guure/Gurgure origin. All the Ifat kings Salah Din who is buried in Zaila and his ancestor Umar Din was of Ali Madaxweyn Dir. All the Northern and Southern Dir clans whether Isaq, Suure, Gadbuursi or Isasa are related to the ancient Gurgura.you see we are the ones who made you believe in to islam while you was eating rocks and whorshipping your god waaq at caabudwaaq Laughing


Let me tell you the reasoning behind this.
First of all Awdal has never had a Darood presense, and this is where the history was bieng played.
We are talking about the 1500's 1528-1545 to be exact, but somali history is much older,and much of it is DIR history.
The Jihad of Imam Ahmed gurey was not the first war that involved muslims and the christian abbysinians, it was the 5th war.

Have you heard of the abbysianian king Camda seyon and his war against the muslims.
The ethiopians under Camde seyon conquered the muslim sultanates of Gojjam, Damot,and Hadiyya in a 6 year campaign, then crossed the awash and defeated Ifat or Awfat( which controled awdal and harar). This was the greatest defeat of the muslims in the horn and the first time somalis were hit that hard, because somali cities like saylac, and amoud which were heavily populated were burnt to the ground and countless people massacred.
During his campaign his court offcials and poets wrote the " The Glorius Victories" in poem form and it is among the poems that the name Somali was first mentioned written, and it was after listing the defeated
peoples, the "awdali (afars) , harla, haddiya, gurage and also the werjeh, and gaal( warjeex and gacal who were gurgure dir ).

We are talking of hundreds of years of Dir history in the area when ilkayar were supposedly still a small clan in the daroor valley and cabuudwaaq Laughing
User avatar
DawladSade
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 13940
Joined: Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:38 pm
Location: Xornimo

Re: Tru leaders of your sub clan

Post by DawladSade »

as i though "blah blah blah"
User avatar
King-of-Awdal
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 6111
Joined: Thu May 17, 2007 5:26 am
Location: The Future.

Re: Tru leaders of your sub clan

Post by King-of-Awdal »

Samaroon: Makhaail
Isaa: Mamassans

as for the issue of ahmed gurey identity i have finally found the futah al habash book and will start reading it soon as i get any break from school studies and u guyz will hear my verdict on what the book says. Laughing
User avatar
Metal
SomaliNetizen
SomaliNetizen
Posts: 553
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:47 pm
Location: Xaafada Kacaanka

Re: Tru leaders of your sub clan

Post by Metal »

Ahmed Gurey wasn't even Somali, he was Afar or Arab, probably Arab since his formal name was Ibrahim Al-Ghazi. Just because he settled with skinnies does not make him one. Those were the days of missionaries, especially the fact that he came from Saylac, which was a hot destination for Muslim preachers, also the sight of the first Ottoman territory in Somalia, though centuries later, they were probably scoping the place decades earlier.
User avatar
Somalistan
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 4778
Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:24 am
Location: Oodwayne, Togdheer,Somaliland

Re: Tru leaders of your sub clan

Post by Somalistan »

Ahmed whatever he was is history.
Locked
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “General - General Discussions”