Al Shabaab's Selective Fatwa

[James Dahl]

Nur Adde is the Manchurian Candidate. He wears a cimmamad under that suit and tie.

[AbdiWahab252]

Shirib,

Are things better now or before the Wadaad Isku sheg came on the scene in Xamar ?

Yes or No.

[xidigow]

Xidigow,

Adeer, if any harm came to Malaq Nur Caade, the Shabab would be hunted down by the ProPeaceinHawiyedom forces in Xamar. They would become marked men and held responsible for ensuring Afbiijo got the power to continue his destructive mission. They would have helped Afbiijo out greatly.

Shirib,

If the good men of the Isbaheysiga had won the battles, there would be:

1. No Ethiopians in Hawiyedom
2. The Afbijo TFG dying in the swamps of Jowhar
3. The Muqdisho TFG in Xamar

AW,

Although I may agree with you some of the points that you are trying to make, but I 100% disagree with you XISIBIGII SHAYDAANKA. As one who was living and working in Mogadishu at their era, ISBAHEYSIGA SHAYDAANKU was the worst group that ever came in existence of Somalia' politics. They were nothing but the worst DABADHILIF form of all time. I would take Al-shabaab or TFG over that group in any minute. Kuwaas adeer haba ka hadlin..yahuudaa dhaanatay.

[Shirib]

Shirib,

Are things better now or before the Wadaad Isku sheg came on the scene in Xamar ?

Yes or No.

Things were better before the Isbaheysi came back to Xamar and since they got destroyed the first time, they brought their Ethiopian body guards with them

[xidigow]

Shirib,

Are things better now or before the Wadaad Isku sheg came on the scene in Xamar ?

Yes or No.

Wait a minute..You cant compare apples to oranges. How about trying to compare the 6 months that ICU ruled Mogadishu (June 06-Dec 06) to the warlord's time or TFG time, and honestly tell me which do you think was safer for ADEER XIDIGOW in MOGADISHU?

[AbdiWahab252]

Adeer Xidigow,

Have you ever heard of the "Quiet" before the Storm ?

The Makamiinta breathed life into the dead carcass called the TFG. Why didn't they wait until the TFG died before going to war ?

Or why didn't they attack Jowhar when they had the chance to prevent them from coming to Somalia ?

Of course, things were not great with the Isbaheysiga but they were NOT TERRIBLE like nowdays.

[Shirib]

AW

Isbaheysiga caused this mess. They were the ones who destroyed Xamar for 16 years. They were the ones who started to attack innocent wadaado. They were the ones who brought Ethiopians

It was ur Isbaheysi, who btw is also the TFG and took orders from Meles and the US

U got nothing better sxb, like it or not Al Shabaab is the best thing we got now. Maybe if u would've fixed up Xamar ages ago we wouldn't be in this mess, but of course all the income from isbaaro's was just too much to let go of.

[Shilling]

In addressing the failure to diffuse religious politics of the fake-jihadists this guy some time ago wrote:

"Another error made by the TFG and Ethiopia has been the unawareness to diffuse the ICU propaganda of religious war. When the ICU declared that it is fighting a holy war against Christian Ethiopia, it gained more support and recruits both from inside Somalia and from the Middle East . Perhaps, defeating and diffusing this propaganda was the easiest job for Ethiopia but it did not acknowledge the need to do the job at all. This was unacceptable. Ethiopia historically being the first Muslim settlement in Africa and a country with 4 times more Muslim population than Somalia, all we needed to do was express our values of religious co-existence, our semi population's identity as Muslims and our interests for peace. Ethiopia's Axum Kingdom was the first state in world history that sheltered persecuted Muslims and accepted the religion via mutual respect instead of via jihad. And recently, the much higher percentage and role of Ethiopian Muslim inside the government of Meles Zenawi as well as inside other levels leadership in Ethiopia are facts that should have been expressed to people so that they won't become influenced by the Jihad calls of the ICU. But instead of Ethiopia and the TFG diffusing the religious politics, all of us ignored it and it has become a big loss.

Not only did we ignore the impact of the religious politics of foreign jihadists and ICU, but some have even fueled it by bringing in the American factor, which quickly amplified Al Qaida's interests in Somalia . All of this has developed a bigger monster than we realize because even the anti-TFG Somalis have become a non-factor at this time. The truth is, today, the Alliance for the Reliberation of Somalia (ARS) has nearly lost full control of the anti-TFG fighters inside Somalia . Not only ARS's Sheik Ahmed in Djibouti, it might actually be accurate to say that even Sheik Aweys in Eritrea has no control of the various Al shabaab fighters and new Mujahideen groups in Somalia. The Al Qaida network has certainly existed in small levels even before Ethiopia's intervention in Somalia, as exemplified by the UN intercepted messages and by terrorist attacks in Ethiopia as well as in Kenyan and Tanzanian US embassies. But our ignorance of their strategy to better use religious politics to instigate a "religious war" as soon as Ethiopia's involvement began and as soon as the American involvement became clearer was a major and destructive mistake on our part. As the result, having 100 "peace talks" with ARS or even with Sheik Aweys might become meaningless on the ground in Somalia."

And with this latest press release issued after one of one of thier millitary wing faction (al-shabaab) issued a statement demanding the closure of Adan Adde Airport [Mogadishu Airport that last statement might be true...this is what their press release states:

1. Thousands of Somalis fly in or out of the country via the airport;

2. The airport is used for shipping in a lot of items that are important to society, such as medicines, electronics, garments, and the like.

3. Pilgrims travel via the airport to perform hajj and umrah [Islamic pilgrimage to Mecca].

4. Somalis interested in returning to their country arrive via the airport;

5. The airport is one of the places from which the Somali people benefit;

6. People who need emergency treatment, such as civilians wounded by enemy rockets, are flown out of the airport.

Because of the benefits we have mentioned, there is no reason why the airport should be shut down.

Indeed there is somthin big wrong with our ppl, we failed as a society, we killed each other like animals, we destroyed our country thus became refugges throughout the world hunted down like dogs in South Africa and else where, we are one of the poorest people in the world, we have huge portion of our community addicted to khat and welfare in the dispora, its hard to find an umberalla somali organization not based on qabil but unity and brotherhood, we don't have many PHd holders, and now it seems to some Somalia unity depends on such simple minded youth with no plan B once Ethiopia leaves...God help Somalia

[GENERAL_SNM]

If I had to throw my two pence in this debate. There is no difference between AY and the White Donkey, infact Nuur Caade would be the worst because his part of a machine thats destroying his own people.
AbdiWahabs Logic is so twisted and qabilist, he would rather take a traitor Hawiye over a Nationalist anti-Occupation Darod.

[xidigow]

In addressing the failure to diffuse religious politics of the fake-jihadists this guy some time ago wrote:

"Another error made by the TFG and Ethiopia has been the unawareness to diffuse the ICU propaganda of religious war. When the ICU declared that it is fighting a holy war against Christian Ethiopia, it gained more support and recruits both from inside Somalia and from the Middle East . Perhaps, defeating and diffusing this propaganda was the easiest job for Ethiopia but it did not acknowledge the need to do the job at all. This was unacceptable. Ethiopia historically being the first Muslim settlement in Africa and a country with 4 times more Muslim population than Somalia, all we needed to do was express our values of religious co-existence, our semi population's identity as Muslims and our interests for peace. Ethiopia's Axum Kingdom was the first state in world history that sheltered persecuted Muslims and accepted the religion via mutual respect instead of via jihad. And recently, the much higher percentage and role of Ethiopian Muslim inside the government of Meles Zenawi as well as inside other levels leadership in Ethiopia are facts that should have been expressed to people so that they won't become influenced by the Jihad calls of the ICU. But instead of Ethiopia and the TFG diffusing the religious politics, all of us ignored it and it has become a big loss.

Not only did we ignore the impact of the religious politics of foreign jihadists and ICU, but some have even fueled it by bringing in the American factor, which quickly amplified Al Qaida's interests in Somalia . All of this has developed a bigger monster than we realize because even the anti-TFG Somalis have become a non-factor at this time. The truth is, today, the Alliance for the Reliberation of Somalia (ARS) has nearly lost full control of the anti-TFG fighters inside Somalia . Not only ARS's Sheik Ahmed in Djibouti, it might actually be accurate to say that even Sheik Aweys in Eritrea has no control of the various Al shabaab fighters and new Mujahideen groups in Somalia. The Al Qaida network has certainly existed in small levels even before Ethiopia's intervention in Somalia, as exemplified by the UN intercepted messages and by terrorist attacks in Ethiopia as well as in Kenyan and Tanzanian US embassies. But our ignorance of their strategy to better use religious politics to instigate a "religious war" as soon as Ethiopia's involvement began and as soon as the American involvement became clearer was a major and destructive mistake on our part. As the result, having 100 "peace talks" with ARS or even with Sheik Aweys might become meaningless on the ground in Somalia."

And with this latest press release issued after one of one of thier millitary wing faction (al-shabaab) issued a statement demanding the closure of Adan Adde Airport [Mogadishu Airport that last statement might be true...this is what their press release states:

1. Thousands of Somalis fly in or out of the country via the airport;

2. The airport is used for shipping in a lot of items that are important to society, such as medicines, electronics, garments, and the like.

3. Pilgrims travel via the airport to perform hajj and umrah [Islamic pilgrimage to Mecca].

4. Somalis interested in returning to their country arrive via the airport;

5. The airport is one of the places from which the Somali people benefit;

6. People who need emergency treatment, such as civilians wounded by enemy rockets, are flown out of the airport.

Because of the benefits we have mentioned, there is no reason why the airport should be shut down.

Indeed there is somthin big wrong with our ppl, we failed as a society, we killed each other like animals, we destroyed our country thus became refugges throughout the world hunted down like dogs in South Africa and else where, we are one of the poorest people in the world, we have huge portion of our community addicted to khat and welfare in the dispora, its hard to find an umberalla somali organization not based on qabil but unity and brotherhood, we don't have many PHd holders, and now it seems to some Somalia unity depends on such simple minded youth with no plan B once Ethiopia leaves...God help Somalia

Our people? I thought in your language..it is We vs Them..since when did we become WE again?

[Shilling]

Our people? I thought in your language..it is We vs Them..since when did we become WE again?

Xidigow,

Caydiid waa 6 feet under and soon C/laahi will be...if your saying we should follow their footsteps and start round 2 of Somalia distractive civil war don't count me in because I refuse to let another Somali generation to be left hopeless.

[xidigow]

Our people? I thought in your language..it is We vs Them..since when did we become WE again?

Xidigow,

Caydiid waa 6 feet under and soon C/laahi will be...if your saying we should follow their footsteps and start round 2 of Somalia distractive civil war don't count me in because I refuse to let another Somali generation to be left hopeless.

Waaba yaabanahay, goormaad saan siku badashay?

[AbdiWahab252]

Xidigow,

He is changing his stripes when he sees Adeer Yusuf is going now where and the show is up soon while trying to save his people from the same kind of treatment in Xamar

[xidigow]

Xidigow,

He is changing his stripes when he sees Adeer Yusuf is going now where and the show is up soon while trying to save his people from the same kind of treatment in Xamar

Poor Guy. If his SOOMALINIMO was bsed on Abdulahi Yusuf's fale presidency then he is right, we should count him out as SOMALI who feels the pain of the suffering people.

[abdi ilyas]

al-shababa cant touch my abti. if they wanna my abti he is schedule is public 2 night he is sleeping in hotel global. this so called criminils who are cilling woman and children don't represent now one but them selves. its not only al-shabab. there is 10 other groups like al-shababa who is saying they are mujahitiin when they are nothing but criminils.
letts say those groups won. after that what happens? let me tell you what happen its deje vu. those groups will fight each other 4 power as they doing now. and they will divide the south. 10 districts. example sh.hoose will be divided, Mogadishu as will, jubuujinka as wel etc. and those are criminils they well not stop if we don't wake up.