Charles Darwin at 200 - Celebration and Reflection

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Charles Darwin at 200 - Celebration and Reflection

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people all over the world are celebrating the life and times of the one greatest men to have ever lived. he is Charles Darwin, the father of evolution theory. his theory gives the mechanism of how all living things got to where they are today. needless to say his theory trascends the borders the science because it competes with alternate theocratic theory of human evolution. all rational and empirically minded people who no choice but to agree with darwin. that said, many unenlightened folks vehemently oppose darwin and his theory.

give your thoughtful reflections. what does darwin and evolution theory mean to you? are you perturbed or inspired like I?
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Re: Charles Darwin at 200 - Celebration and Reflection

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Men came from monkeys idea :down:
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Re: Charles Darwin at 200 - Celebration and Reflection

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You have to define what Evolution means first. Then you get an opinion. With regards to Darwinians being more enlightened than others who consider the theory as lacking credibility, that is just weak. You can claim to be enlightened but you have to prove you are in fact more enlightened than others you disagree with. A theory is a theory and no fact.
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Re: Charles Darwin at 200 - Celebration and Reflection

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[quote="Keyse_0208"]Men came from monkeys idea :down:[/quote]
:down: down indeed

since neither darwin nor evolution theory postulates men "came from monkeys", darwin is still posthumously winning the argument
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Darwin is only there as a placeholder. Western science doesn't actually know our past and they are not willing to take Islam's viewpoint so they need a placeholder to keep people preoccupied. :up:
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Re: Charles Darwin at 200 - Celebration and Reflection

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Hoowle wrote:
Keyse_0208 wrote:Men came from monkeys idea :down:
:down: down indeed

since neither darwin nor evolution theory postulates men "came from monkeys", darwin is still posthumously winning the argument


Quite contrary, it does mate, don't run from the facts:


3) At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes, as Professor Schaaffhausen has remarked, will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.The Descent of Man (1871) p.201



Saxib, Reread the Descent of Man, Chapter I.
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Re: Charles Darwin at 200 - Celebration and Reflection

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Voltage wrote:Darwin is only there as a placeholder. Western science doesn't actually know our past and they are not willing to take Islam's viewpoint so they need a placeholder to keep people preoccupied. :up:

Saxib, not all western scientists promote Darwinian Theocracy. Some 600 Phd holders have signed already and made their voices heard.

Here is a main website:

http://www.dissentfromdarwin.org/
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Re: Charles Darwin at 200 - Celebration and Reflection

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[quote="Numeric"]A theory is a theory and no fact.[/quote]

well, a theory explain a fact, it never becomes a fact itself. that is why it is called a theory. so, thanks for the deeply enlightening contribution.
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Re: Charles Darwin at 200 - Celebration and Reflection

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Hoowle wrote:
Numeric wrote:A theory is a theory and no fact.
well, a theory explain a fact, it never becomes a fact itself. that is why it is called a theory. so, thanks for the deeply enlightening contribution.

You forgot to own up to your exposed gaffe mate. I am calling it gaffe because I want to give you the benefit of the doubt and you survive a little more in this thread. Be a man and admitt Darwinian theory postulates men to have descended from Apaes and we go from there. Reasonable expectation wouldn't you say Howle? Then explain briefly what Evolution means to clear up some confusion. Being the englightened man as you were, these requests are minor disturbances I am sure :lol:

Come on bro, don't disappoint.
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Re: Charles Darwin at 200 - Celebration and Reflection

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[quote="Voltage"]Darwin is only there as a placeholder. Western science doesn't actually know our past and they are not willing to take Islam's viewpoint so they need a placeholder to keep people preoccupied. :up:[/quote]

there is no such thing as "Western science", science is just science. you either accept it or you don't.

Numerica, the quote you posted says nothing of what you allege. the theory of evolution says man descended from ape like species. no monkey and certainly not apes. your entire case against evolution theory rests on grotesque caricature of the theory atop woeful misunderstanding of it.
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Re: Charles Darwin at 200 - Celebration and Reflection

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Hoowle wrote: Numerica, the quote you posted says nothing of what you allege. the theory of evolution says man descended from ape like species. no monkey and certainly not apes. your entire case against evolution theory rests on grotesque caricature of the theory atop woeful misunderstanding of it.


The theory discredits itself without my input. No need to fabricate as the fine prints above would testify to its gross failure, anyone can read except the blind I suppose.

Are you going to stop dancing around accusations of foul play and set aside your paranoia? Defintion of Evolution please. Or surrender mate, I will be kindly to a pasto legged skinny lost in the wilderness.
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Re: Charles Darwin at 200 - Celebration and Reflection

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what is the point of me giving you a "definition" of evolution theory? if you don't know what evolution theory is, how can you critique it let alone dismiss it as false? or self contradictory? I don't get you. in another post you displayed signs that suggest you don't even know what theory is. how can I debate with someone who hasn't a clue of what a scientific theory is?

anyways, i'm willing to cut you some slack and take you under my wings by teaching a one or two things about the theory of evolution.

to start that process, first tell me what you most disagree with evolution theory.
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Re: Charles Darwin at 200 - Celebration and Reflection

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Hoowle wrote:what is the point of me giving you a "definition" of evolution theory? if you don't know what evolution theory is, how can you critique it let alone dismiss it as false? or self contradictory? I don't get you. in another post you displayed signs that suggest you don't even know what theory is. how can I debate with someone who hasn't a clue of what a scientific theory is?

anyways, i'm willing to cut you some slack and take you under my wings by teaching a one or two things about the theory of evolution.

to start that process, first tell me what you most disagree with evolution theory.



Looks like the pot calling the kettle black. The word Evolution needs to be defined in light of Darwinian theory first. It should be done by you, I want to read it from you, then I will give you my opinion about it. When you define, I will tell you what I think are my disagreeables with it. Fire away at will :lol:
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Re: Charles Darwin at 200 - Celebration and Reflection

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obviously you're in over your head but I'll write this for the benefit of other readers

evolution theory: a theory that explains the descent of all modern living things from original one or two living things. the mechanisms of evolution are natural selection and genetic drift.
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Re: Charles Darwin at 200 - Celebration and Reflection

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Darwin was a bastard :down:
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