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Bashir Goth (another Somali Islamaphope??)
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Re: Bashir Goth (another Somali Islamaphope??)
Re: Bashir Goth (another Somali Islamaphope??)
I know no one can change the deen of Allah but you applauding for such a man wont get you anywhere. I can see you want to go in circles because your not man a enough to admit that you were wrong so im stop here, no point in wasting time.The_Emperior5 wrote:That’s a strange logic and it’s contradicting with Islam allahs protect his religion and his Quran so no one can change it get it.Xashi wrote:You called him a mujahid. This man does not care about muslims, his aim is to change the deen of Allah. By aiding his views you will put yourself in the same position.The_Emperior5 wrote:Islam does not oppress woman it liberates woman, but what he says about female circumsion I agree that’s against our muslim religion
Dont be hardheaded this is your religion.
Re: Bashir Goth (another Somali Islamaphope??)
Naarta ku fagoow bashiir and his likes. 
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Re: Bashir Goth (another Somali Islamaphope??)
Bashir Goth is selling his deen for few bucks as he tries to soil the image of Islam and attribute outdated cultural practises that has nothing to do with Islam to it, misleading readers in the process. He seems to be spreading cheap and receycled anti-Islam Propaganda.
Having said all of the above, I would like to admit that woman in the Islamic societies are oppressed to some extent and only the proper implementation of the Shariah can liberate then of such opressions.
What areas of Woman rights do you think can be corrected by illiminating the evil cultural antagonism of woman that prevails in the Ilamic world?
Domestic Violence physical/sexual, Honour killings, Hudood laws (pregnancy as a proof of for)
Human rights
education
health (FGM, PE )
economic (Property ownership, jobs, inheritance)
Social (segregation, voting, leadership, Driving)
Political (political discrimination)
Its also nor a bad Idea to list the oppressions meted to Women in the West. What is the reason behind the fact the 2 thirds of new converts to Islam being women??
Domestic Voilance
Rape
Lack of dignity
Going under the knife just to look good for men (Boob jobs and other cosmetic procedures)
Having said all of the above, I would like to admit that woman in the Islamic societies are oppressed to some extent and only the proper implementation of the Shariah can liberate then of such opressions.
What areas of Woman rights do you think can be corrected by illiminating the evil cultural antagonism of woman that prevails in the Ilamic world?
Domestic Violence physical/sexual, Honour killings, Hudood laws (pregnancy as a proof of for)
Human rights
education
health (FGM, PE )
economic (Property ownership, jobs, inheritance)
Social (segregation, voting, leadership, Driving)
Political (political discrimination)
Its also nor a bad Idea to list the oppressions meted to Women in the West. What is the reason behind the fact the 2 thirds of new converts to Islam being women??
Domestic Voilance
Rape
Lack of dignity
Going under the knife just to look good for men (Boob jobs and other cosmetic procedures)
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Re: Bashir Goth (another Somali Islamaphope??)
whats so wrong about what he said? 
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Re: Bashir Goth (another Somali Islamaphope??)
Bashir wrote an article complaining about how he could check out woman in dirac back in the days and now the wahabis have brainwashed women to cover fully. Top Anti Islamic bafoon.
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I am not sure if you have inside information about the man and his faith but if we were judge him on the words written above then what you seem to be accusing him of is very unfair, my friend. Is it what he is saying or what you think he is saying? This is his last line. Read it.Xashi wrote:This man claims that Islam oppresses women.Anyone who supports him or his ideas is an emeny to Islam. I advise you not to commit kufr just to get a few replies.
Now, unless you have information about the man’s apostasy I think it is fair to assume he is (still) a Muslim. If we’re agreed on that, we can then move on to his words and see what he’s trying to say...For every denial of rights a woman faces, whether it is not being able to drive a car, go to school, have a fair share of inheritance, marry the man she loves, take part in public decision-making, or simply wear what she chooses, it is always Islam that is put as a tall wall before her. I wonder when Muslim scholars will stop being apologetic and sift the right from the wrong in Islam to give women their right place in society.
Well, he is not saying anything new here. It is the same argument EVERY Muslim has made in his/her life before (you just can’t see it now). Just like some Muslims dispute Al Shabab’s interpretation of the faith and just like Al Shabab question other Muslim’s interpretation of the religion and just like you would question me and I would quiz you, Bashir here is questioning the application of the faith when it comes to women. But (and this is where I was forced to extend him the benefit of the doubt), he does not question it and imply that his way is better (not that he suggested a way to start with), he invites the scholars to have another look at things and clarify matters for all. Is that such a bad thing?
When I first read the article, I got the man’s message but found his delivery somewhat distasteful. But when I read your reply (about him being an enemy of Islam), I saw a clear and living example of what Mr Goth is talking about.
You’re far too hasty, brother. Play the ball, not the man.
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Re: Bashir Goth (another Somali Islamaphope??)
Bashiir Good...Waa nin aad u qiimo badan. All he needs to do is, to come back to his religion and support
Nin rag ah, koley mar uunbuu isa sixi doonaa 
Re: Bashir Goth (another Somali Islamaphope??)
kambuli wrote:Bashiir Good...Waa nin aad u qiimo badan. All he needs to do is, to come back to his religion and supportNin rag ah, koley mar uunbuu isa sixi doonaa
Subxanallah, he is one of Islams enemies, Have you ever read his blog?
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This guy only gets angry when hawiye is insulted. Didnt you say a while ago let us all worship waaqAbdiWahab252 wrote:This guy is a clownFirst he insulted the Noble Children of Sheik Ahmed Hawiye after they slaughtered the Xabashi invaders and now he wants to attack the Ummah
Bashir Goth is a clown of the worst kind: an intellectually lazy one
The queer that wrote that abominable article would be crucified if I was the leader of Somalia.
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No I didn't read his blog..But I read some artciles he wrote in Wardheernews... 
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Re: Bashir Goth (another Somali Islamaphope??)
Proof, my brother, proof. You can't label someone an enemy of Islam and expect people to just take your word for it (even though I consider you one of the more reasonable people in these parts).Executive wrote:kambuli wrote:Bashiir Good...Waa nin aad u qiimo badan. All he needs to do is, to come back to his religion and supportNin rag ah, koley mar uunbuu isa sixi doonaa
Subxanallah, he is one of Islams enemies, Have you ever read his blog?
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Re: Bashir Goth (another Somali Islamaphope??)
Ganjaweed,Ganjaweed wrote:This guy only gets angry when hawiye is insulted. Didnt you say a while ago let us all worship waaqAbdiWahab252 wrote:This guy is a clownFirst he insulted the Noble Children of Sheik Ahmed Hawiye after they slaughtered the Xabashi invaders and now he wants to attack the Ummah
Bashir Goth is a clown of the worst kind: an intellectually lazy one![]()
The queer that wrote that abominable article would be crucified if I was the leader of Somalia.
We are discussing the faults of Bashir Goth. His antiHawiyism and now his baseless accusations need to be called out.
That being said, you have no right to kill one of Eebe's creations over something he wrote. Who gave you the right to decide who lives or dies ?
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kuffar lovin' cunt. 
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Re: Bashir Goth (another Somali Islamaphope??)
In almost every report and study prepared on the situation of women, Muslim and Arab intellectuals fail to mention Islam as part of the problem.
Anigu qof gaaloobay lama yaabo, laakiin dadka mujaahidka ku tilmaamay oo muslim sheeganaya iga daran
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