SHIA/SUNNI... WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCES!!!

[djibsomali]

The question of the day is what is the differences between Shia and sunni??

I know most of somali believes what the arabs have taugth them trough several generation.

But the question is for the 10 % who are open minded

[SultanOrder]

I don't get why you are so obsessed with this issue as if you get others to see the way you see it, they will definetly follow what you follow. Very childish obsession sxb.

As for me I don't have problem with shia's they are my brothers in Islam, they say la illah illaa'lah muhammadu rasul'lah and that has brought us under the faith of Islam. So enough with the divisivness, it is Ramadan so let us not highlight the differences of the muslimeen because it would be endless. And please don't come with the excuse that this is for educational purposes, save that for another day.

[djibsomali]

I don't get why you are so obsessed with this issue as if you get others to see the way you see it, they will definetly follow what you follow. Very childish obsession sxb.

As for me I don't have problem with shia's they are my brothers in Islam, they say la illah illaa'lah muhammadu rasul'lah and that has brought us under the faith of Islam. So enough with the divisivness, it is Ramadan so let us not highlight the differences of the muslimeen because it would be endless. And please don't come with the excuse that this is for educational purposes, save that for another day.

Are you in my mind cajiib???

why don't you try to play the lottery if you are that good???

[Queen_Arawello]

there isn't a big difference..shia jst means a sect..they only minor difference is shiiaia's believe Ali (ra) should have been the calif instead of Abubakar ( ra).

[AbuDujanah]

there isn't a big difference..shia jst means a sect..they only minor difference is shiiaia's believe Ali (ra) should have been the calif instead of Abubakar ( ra).

shia are misunderstood especially those who are the ahlulbait

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

The difference is that shias hates some members of ahlulbayt and also sahaba.
But i support their love for family of Ali r.a, however some of them took this love too extreme so they have committed shirk.



Whoever asks a dead human weither prophet or non-prophet believing that they can help/benefit them has committed shirk . Also asking help from angels or jesus pbuh(who is still alive) is plain shirk.

[djibsomali]

The difference is that shias hates some members of ahlulbayt and also sahaba.
But i support their love for family of Ali r.a, however some of them took this love too extreme so they have committed shirk.

Do you know muawiyahh used to curse Ali and his familly??


Muawiyah was the caliph of sunni, the one who challenged Ali for his calipha!!!

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

The difference is that shias hates some members of ahlulbayt and also sahaba.
But i support their love for family of Ali r.a, however some of them took this love too extreme so they have committed shirk.

Do you know muawiyahh used to curse Ali and his familly??


Muawiyah was the caliph of sunni, the one who challenged Ali for his calipha!!!

Muawiya radiyallahu anhu never cursed amir al mu'mineen Ali al Murtaza r.a.
Thats a lie.
Infact when the death of Ali r.a reached Muawiya r.a, he cried.

Though i still do not support his rebellion caused by qabilism(banu umayyah vs banu hashim animosity existed before birth of prophet pbuh) and until justice(blood of Uthman r.a) has been reached.

Still its a fact that some of Muawiya's supporters cursed Ali r.a, while some of Ali's supporters cursed Muawiya r.a but that doesnt mean that the leaders were pro-cursing!!

[djibsomali]

Hutuking do you even read the hadith???
I think you don't even know that muawiyaah used to curse Ali


One of the ugliest innovations that started during the reign of Muawiyah
was that Muawiyah himself, and through his order to his Governors, they
used to insult Imam Ali (AS) during the Sermons in the Mosques. This was
even done on the pulpit of the mosque of the Prophet in Medina in front of
the grave of the Prophet Muhammad (May Allah bless him and his Progeny),
so that even the dearest Companions of the Prophet (PBUH&HF), and Imam Ali
(AS), his family and his near relatives used to hear these swears with
their ears.

Sunni references :
- History of al-Tabari, v4, p188
- History of Ibn Kathir, v3, p234; v4, p154
- al-Bidayah wa al-Nihayah, v8, p259; v9, p80

[djibsomali]

Sunni reference: al-Aqd al-Fareed, v2, p300

"That it was in the days of Bani Umayyah, more than seventy thousand
minbar (in mosques) upon which they cursed Ali Ibn Abi-Talib, in some
of what Muawiyah made a Sunnah for them."

Sunni references:
- Rabeea' al-Abrar, al-Zamakhshari
- al-Hafidh Jalaluddin al-Suyuti

[SultanOrder]

Whoever asks a dead human weither prophet or non-prophet believing that they can help/benefit them has committed shirk . Also asking help from angels or jesus pbuh(who is still alive) is plain shirk.

lol Bro I think you need to learn the aqida of Ahlul sunnah Wa'l Jamac

Either read the works of Imaam Tahaawi, Imam Ashari, or Imam Matrudi

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Djib, throw away these hadiths.
They are false


When Muawiyah incited the people of Syria to war against Ali there were some people who were averse to the Muslims fighting among themselves. A group of such persons led by Abu Muslim waited on Muawiyah, and advised him to abstain from war. Muawiyah said that all that he wanted was "Qasas" for the murder of Othman which was a religious obligation for him. He added that if Ali took the Qasas from those who were involved in the murder of Othman, or handed over such persons to him he would be prepared to offer allegiance to Ali.

The whole war was based on qasas because the killers of Uthman r.a were hiding amongst supporters of Ali radiyallah anhu.


We should not hate a scribe of prophet Muhammad pbuh.
But we should say: May Allah forgive his rebellion!
He did not even believe to be better than Ali r.a, he admitted that Ali r.a was much better than him and more deserving of the caliphate but the qasas had to be solved first. That was their disagreement: Ali r.a was wiser, he said give me bayyah to preserve the unity of the believers after that we will punish the killers of uthman radiyallah anhu, muawiya r.a said no first the blood of uthman then you can have my bayyah.


As for Yazid & Kufan shias, we should say: May Allah curse kilers of Al-Hussain r.a.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Whoever asks a dead human weither prophet or non-prophet believing that they can help/benefit them has committed shirk . Also asking help from angels or jesus pbuh(who is still alive) is plain shirk.

lol Bro I think you need to learn the aqida of Ahlul sunnah Wa'l Jamac

Either read the works of Imaam Tahaawi, Imam Ashari, or Imam Matrudi

Brother, i take the kitab of Allah swt and ahaadith above their words
If they say that it is allowed to ask help from someone besides Allah swt.

[djibsomali]

hutu king did the prophet cursed muawiyaah??

There is a hadith about muawiyaah bellie and which the prophet cursed him.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

the correct understanding of that hadith is: Prophet Muhammad pbuh made a duco for him which was understood as '' may Allah protect you from poverty and hunger''. This was truthful duco