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Fear Allah, daylight savings/gregorian is kufr

Post by grandpakhalif »

Allah says in surat taubah ayat 37

The postponing (of a Sacred Month) is indeed an addition to disbelief: thereby the disbelievers are led astray, for they make it lawful one year and forbid it another year in order to adjust the number of months forbidden by Allâh, and make such forbidden ones lawful. The evil of their deeds is made fair-seeming pleasing to them. And Allâh guides not the people, who disbelieve.

the current daylight savings plan is based on man-made 'solar readings' which alter the time. Allah indeed said that postponing of sacred month and time in general is kufr. The people of jahilliyat used to omit and add days in order to deceive the people to gain more territory and allow more time before sacred months.

The same example today, feburaray 28, the kuffar add one day on "leap year", this is pure kufr since only Allah has the ability to control time.


i got this info from recent lecture from sheikh abu usamah, jzk.
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Grandpa :|

I don't understand what your advocating. That we stop using the gregorian calendar, and time? I guess the way we tell time where midnight is where the clock starts at 0 is also kufr, since it's origins is celtics. :|
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i think grandmurtad is advising us to go back to the caves.....
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:lol: :lol: :lol: grandpa wa soooooooo waaashay next time buuraha hala galo ayuu soo wadaa :down:
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No, I heard this from a scholar who studied under Ibn Uthaymeen and Ibn Baaz, he is 100% right and convinced me that they are kufr.

Only Allah controls the time.
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is he actually serious about these kufr allegations he is throwing left and right? :|
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gregorian calendar is most precise and correct calenders of all . if you dont have gregorian calendar then you will have winter in juni or july for this side of the world.

The lunar calender which Muslims use was not invented by muslims.it existed pre islamic, thousend of years before islam. first it was Chinese who used first the Lunar calendar. the Problem is the lunar calender is drifts each solar year by 11 to 12 days therefore is not scentici to use A lunar calendar. the Solar calendar which gregorian calendar is based on is the best for human kind to use it because its precise.
grandpakhalif wrote:No, I heard this from a scholar who studied under Ibn Uthaymeen and Ibn Baaz, he is 100% right and convinced me that they are kufr.

Only Allah controls the time.
those wahaabi scholars first they are not god send prophets themselfs, second that saudi sheikh DOES NOT KNOW THAT Lunar calendar itself is KUFR invention. Chines, hebrew and HINDUS used before Islam. so what makes the chines less KUFR than GREGORIAN calendar??

it does not make sense!!
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Yalaxow the Gregorian calendar is not precise. That is why there is an extra day every 4 years.

Grandpa no one is trying to control time waayo it is impossible to stop the earth from rotating. Calendars and clocks just attempt to measure time.
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you mean february ends every 4 years once a 29?? that is actually what makes gregorian calender precise. forxample the sun is same possion it was july 1990 as its 3 july 2011, but the Lunar calander every year drifts the sun 11 or 12 days.
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Yalaxow it is not precise, somewhere down the line there will need to be a correction. You could argue that it is the mose accurate calendar ever invented, I don't know how accurate that statement would be, but it is not precise.

I am not interested enough in calendars to argue about their accuracy but if you research a bit you will see that precise is never a word used with regards to calendars.
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:lol: i know this is meant to be a serious topic to this kid but i couldn't help finding it quite amusing
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
this is why we are slaves to the west...
unfortunatley too many people have had their brain removed like granpa here..
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Whoever doubts the apostacy of Alshabaab, is himself/herself a murtad!
Qutubi, to jadiidi, to suufi, and now a khaarijite. HutuKing comes full circle
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