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Newhargeisagirl wrote:^^
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:lol: :lol:
Did I touch a nerve mrs Mumgalno? it was an honest question yaqeee ! My halloween party is approachin' quickly & I was thinkin if I could borrow one of your costumes 8-)

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Newhargeisagirl wrote: :lol: :lol:
Did I touch a nerve mrs Mumgalno? it was an honest question yaqeee ! My halloween party is approachin' quickly & I was thinkin if I could borrow one of your costumes 8-)

c'est tout :clap:
Of course you can macaanto. But i have one made for two people.
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The goal is to prevent muslims from establishing a global identity and stop the khilafa coming back.

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In my view the West is not preventing the establishment of a global identity. The seventy three divisions of Islam has already done that. The West has merely devised it's own words to describe what it sees as practical divisions among groups they believe will respond to the same events differently. If the West feared Khalid Yasin, he would not be in the West.
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Grant wrote: In my view the West is not preventing the establishment of a global identity. The seventy three divisions of Islam has already done that. The West has merely devised it's own words to describe what it sees as practical divisions among groups they believe will respond to the same events differently. If the West feared Khalid Yasin, he would not be in the West.
I believe different. The west is suffering from an extreme form of Islamophobia despite its claim of only been against those that are extremist and wishing harm to the west. Unlike Christianity which has been revised, Islam is not for the changing and some of its most fundamental tenet that are against everything the west stand for is what troubles those that are calling the shots and they would stop at nothing until they undermine, destroy or change the faith to their liking. But they are pissing into the wind.

As a Christian yourself am not at all surprised at your take on the issue but i disagree.
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khalid does not want the muslims to be divided but yet supports somaliland and want somalia to be divided? what kind of a logic is that.
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Nomand wrote:khalid does not want the muslims to be divided but yet supports somaliland and want somalia to be divided? what kind of a logic is that.
There is a perfect logic to that line of thought only you decided not to see it. Khalid is not the one with an issue but you who is bringing Somaliland and Somalia politics in a religion topic.

Soomaaliland hadii ay go'do ma miishaar bey dhulka ku goyn? waa maya.
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Nomand wrote:khalid does not want the muslims to be divided but yet supports somaliland and want somalia to be divided? what kind of a logic is that.
There is a perfect logic to that line of thought only you decided not to see it. Khalid is not the one with an issue but you who is bringing Somaliland and Somalia politics in a religion topic.

Soomaaliland hadii ay go'do ma miishaar bey dhulka ku goyn? waa maya.
:? well to u anything sounds logic. u still believe that gog and magog are the white ppl and have been released? dajjal already released?

ur the last person in somalinet to talk about logic with ur believes.

somalia is a muslim country so a person who supports the divsion of somalia with people who have the same culture, langauge and ethnic group... so how can that same person claim to want unity with other muslims who speak a different langauge have a different culture and look different then us.

so ur logic is i cannot unite with those closest to me however i can unite with muslims from pakistan, iran, japan and so forth.
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Nomand wrote: well to u anything makes logic. u still believe that gog and magog are the white ppl and have been released? dajjal already released?

ur the last person in somalinet to talk about logic with ur believes.

somalia is a muslim country so a person who supports the divsion of somalia with people who have the same culture, langauge and ethnic group... so how can that same person claim to want unity with other muslims who speak a different langauge have a different culture and look different then us.

so ur logic is i cannot unite with those closest to me however i can unite with muslims from pakistan, iran, japan and so forth.
:lol: @gog and magog been the white man.

To put it simply, there are more pressing issues at hand than the course of direction Somaliland is taking. Soomaliland is not a ship that will sail away into the sunset. So maybe you should fix the south first and free the people from Mahiga's clutches then maybe just maybe there will be room for talk.

Those who most like to talk about Somaliweyn are the least somali and use the name for their own end.
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mahiga does not control my ancestral land i come part of somalia which has the biggest potential with two great rivers flowing and farm land as far as the eye can see. i have nothing to gain or lose from somaliland joining somalia or leaving somalia.

this topic is about the unity of muslims and how the westren world wants the division of muslims but that very same person believes in a thing called british somaliland.

a westren created entity to divide the somalis.
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Grant wrote:Are these words intended to divide Muslims or to avoid lumping the good guys with the bad ? I for one want to be able to verbally condemn al Awlaki for treason against his country of citizenship without inciting a pogrom against my local mosque. Do you believe all Muslims should answer his call to jihad against the great Shaitan? If so, then you are among those whose citizenship in the West is probably hypocritical and inappropriate and dangerous for all concerned, and you need to be described by a different word.

The tribes are different that you may know them.
There are plenty of groups in the USA that call on the overthrowing of the government and other radical stuff... why doesn't the government shoot a drone at them?
What are you objecting here FAH ? The fact that a drone was used to kill al awlaki or the fact that he was killed ?
Bin Laden was taken out one way , al Awlaki another , Timothy Mc Veigh in a third fashion . what are you trying to say here ?
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^ Sahan, he is saying Awlaki is an American citizen and as such should be treated like other American terrorists, maxaad la hanaaqday? :lol:
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Nomand wrote: this topic is about the unity of muslims and how the westren world wants the division of muslims but that very same person believes in a thing called british somaliland.
You are using Muslim unity as a pretex to justify your objection to Somaliland's decision to determine its own desteny, eventhough that decision is not based on religion. The recent delegation that visited Somalia in response to the humanitarian crisses in the south should be prove enough that Somaliand seperation (at the moment since only Allah knows what the future has in store for SL) has no bearing on their obligation as muslims and somalis. You are blinded by your obsession with SL when your concerns should be more on the plight of those displaced, destitude and dying in camps. The solution to Somalia's problem doesn't rest on the existance or none existance of somaliland. You see it as Somaliland is a western creation but even so, its decision to join the south was its own.

Muslims are human beigns that can have disagreements but that doesn't mean they cannot work togather.
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934 wrote:Actualy muslims of the world have been divided into four different group.

Fundamentalist = those who want to go back to the qur'an and the sunna.

Traditionalist = Those who also claim to holding on to the sunna while sticking only to some classical traditions,..wahabi, , hanafi, shafi'i, maliki, hanbali...

Modernist = those who want a new interpratation of the qur'an, islam and sunna. New world religion. (they want to join all religion, hold hand and sing kumbaya)

Secularist =

The goal is to prevent muslims from establishing a global identity and stop the khilafa coming back.

Sheekha waxaan runta ka aheen muusan sheegin.
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