Somaliland Absame relations and the Future

[Khalid Ali]

As years go by and the political dynamics often change and as we all know the friendly process as neighborliness communities had its ups and down but not so sure just about Politics but just as people and How the Communities coexist in the regions they inhabit. This is the year 2011 soon the year 2012 and the Cultural identity that shapes our Communities is the one that defines the Culture of the Somali people in the horn Africa. Lets not turn back to the past and what we've been through lets look to the future , the Absames have been fighting over the years to establish a state in their indigenous territories in Jubaland region something that will serve their interest and that of their people.

This is something that the people of Somaliland welcome self rule for the people who inhabit the southern regions of Jubaland the only thing that bothers me is the Kenyan boots on the ground how ever they are there , there is little we can do about it the so called Govt in Somalia welcomes them.If we move towards the Ogaden region our people have been living there for centuries and will continue to live there for centuries to come inshallah despite the Challenges the occupation the fight for freedom and self determination shall continue this how ever can come with one voice and unity towards that Goal.

The Somalis from the NDF region in particularly the Absame Community have been good friends and allies of the people of Somaliland i say lets foster those relations to another level lets create a political party that works towards the unity cooperation of all of our people on all fields. The Absames in kenya the Ethnic Somalilanders in Kenya the Absames in the Ogaden region the Ethnic Somalilanders in the Ogaden region. The Absames in Somalia the Somalilanders in Djibouti etc etc. Lets organize festivals that encourages the Somali culture our traditional Culture lets hold those different festivals in different parts of our territories every year this will let the people come closer to each other inshallah.

[ChiefAaqil]

Wise words there. Indeed lets look at the future and Somaliland should give and example and lead the Somali people in the Horn of Africa.

[Khalid Ali]

Wise words there. Indeed lets look at the future and Somaliland should give and example and lead the Somali people in the Horn of Africa.

That's the future my dear Cousin Chiefcaaqil prosperity and justice for all

[The_Patriot]

I hope Isaaq think out of the Irir Box and realise the potential of forging a friendship with Absame.

We also understand the reason behind the Somaliland successionism.
Al we advice you is to show restrain in your endevour.

[Khalid Ali]

I hope Isaaq think out of the Irir Box and realise the potential of forging a friendship with Absame.

We also understand the reason behind the Somaliland successionism.
Al we advice you is to show restrain in your endevour.

Warya Patriot you are so stock in the sixties what is this irir nonsense you keep you're self busy with we keep good relations with people we share Mutual interest with Like the Ciises the Friendly Clans in Somalia who ever they maybe individuals.The Absames might have been our Ancient Rivals when fighting for waterwells and all of that disputed territories but this is the 21 century. I am not talking about Clanish fights in hawds between Clans but the bigger thing, there is little we disagree with the Absames Many Absames realize that now and days.

[The_Patriot]

Khalid I hope reer Somaliland are singing the same tune.

Our focus now lies in the south and we will clean that den of corruption.

[Khalid Ali]

Khalid I hope reer Somaliland are singing the same tune.

Our focus now lies in the south and we will clean that den of corruption.

Patriot don't be so suspicious we are not interested in Somalia their well being is good for us though but help me help you
We Somalilanders care about the well being of jigjiga the same way we care about the well being of hargeysa

[Teeri]

Khalid I hope reer Somaliland are singing the same tune.

Our focus now lies in the south and we will clean that den of corruption.

Patriot don't be so suspicious we are not interested in Somalia their well being is good for us though but help me help you
We Somalilanders care about the well being of jigjiga the same way we care about the well being of hargeysa

Khalid, let me ask you, you freed your self from Moqdishu a long time ago, what is your opinion of Awdal state, and do you think they have the right to seperate from SL?

[Khalid Ali]

Teeri let me ask you in a future ogadeniya state if shinile decides to separate and join Djibouti would you accept that?

[Teeri]

Teeri let me ask you in a future ogadeniya state if shinile decides to separate and join Djibouti would you accept that?

except for a few dirs, it belongs to Absame iyo Adherkod, its owned by bartire, abskul, galmiise weyyten, see this is the difference between us and you khalid, we literally paid Absame blood for every inch of Ogadenia, we are the most expanded of any somali group, we expanded this land, so the once, few dirs etc, they are to me ''marti'', Somalis have a short memory, last time i check, hence dirs and sheekhals etc came with our permission,

but Khalid, you on the other hand in 1991 declared SL which includes Awdal, now they are voicing their concerns, you took them by force, would it be wiser to allow them to voice their rights, after all you kicked Mogadishu out because she was abusing your rights? isn't that double standard?

the way i see it, if sL doesn't solve this now, she is planting the future seeds of destruction, its better to have a small more stable SL then a bigger one full of bittered groups.


I am actually for Idoorlands freedom to self government rule and even if they have to fight so called somalia to get it, then they should. and another thing, lets be honest, with awdal and the other hartis on the other side, idoors become less in numbers if they stand on their own, but Ogadenia, Absame is a huge number, we can observe half of somalia and we would still outnumber them, we are everywhere, and out of the 140 parliamentarians in Ogadenia, Ogaden alone makes 121, if ethiopia flops tomorrow and each state goes her own way, Absame has a tight grip, the land has their name, if a few marti minorities complain, the world would be shown the name of the country, that's enough for the world, majority rules minority

but i fear idoors ruining their chances and they will be in constant war on both sides, its possible, what goes around comes around, you did it to somalia, the awdals and hartis are not on your sides, yet they surround you, remember Hitlers; worst nightmare was attack from both west and east, and in this case, its best to solve the problem nigh, go to the international community, give up awdal and show how serious you are for peace yet you have also foolishly mad an enemy on your south against Absame,

if the most battle hardened somalis, Ogadens became independent in the future, inshallah things never stay the same, look at Qaddafi, last Christmas he was giving gifts to former secretary of USA, Rice, look at him now? do you think they will forget those people you handed in to the ehtiopians? you practice real politik in idoorland, i can tell you this categorically, we too will practice real politik, look at the Mjs now in puntland, why do you think they are kissing up to Absame in the 2 Jubbas using the Kablalax card? because they know we will be out for revenge on all their kind in the 2 jubbas and clean the place off them, inshallah. you have the most ruthless type of OG building base and coordinating in the jubbas, the Galti OG, and this is the type of OG all daroods fear, specially the Mjs and MRs. why do you think MR is confused and divided in to gedo and cabudwaq camps with different ideologies? because one side has smelled the coffee and told the other one to forget about kismayo lands as her real owners are back and share with absame or be thrown out to central somalia and be ruled by hutus.

idoors have many enemies, this is Somalia, but you keep planting more enemies every year. its time for idoors to wake up and smell the coffee and start making friends rather then small enemies on every side that can grow to an ugly beast.

[Khalid Ali]

Do not worry About that Awdal region is where Somaliland was conceived in 1993 in its Modern Statehood i do not consider Awdal as a problem to Somaliland awdal is Somaliland and Somaliland is awdal. Seylac is where we the iidoors used to run our land once in the 1800s its part and parcel of our history, every little thing that comes is an internal issue for us and the people of Somaliland Keep in mind the iidoors the ciises and the Gadabuursis live in Somaliland together for centuries the 20 years Somaliland statehood is an example of the coexistence regardless of what diaspora members say , some want more leverage some want more domination but no single Awdalite wants to be ruled by An Abgaal guy in mogadisho protected by Ugaandhis And you know that Teeri the Ciises are part and parcel of Ethiopia the same with the isaaq i dont advocate for the isaaqs and ciises to annex their land of Ethiopia with Somaliland or Djibouti in the longer term they can better coexist with their neighbors there in a future state, our aim is a strong Somaliland country from the outskirts of lawyacade to the the gates of Garowe and Bosaaso that's our country we have been working towards and its becoming reality every day we are not ever giving up an inch of Somaliland. Every one knows that but we wish to have friends in the horn of africa who ever they maybe we have great relations with the Ciise of Djibouti and some other clans in Somalia and also with the other neighboring countries in the past we had the dhabayacos on border dispute this does not exist any more it has been solved. i have to say we have no porblems with an azania state for the absames matter infact we encourage it but be aware the snake wants to come to Kismayo through the backdoor be aware my friend.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

teeri is a funny guy, maantaad shiniile isku doonatay - lucky ciise aren't present in this forum

[anonymousfaarax]

but Khalid, you on the other hand in 1991 declared SL which includes Awdal, now they are voicing their concerns, you took them by force, would it be wiser to allow them to voice their rights, after all you kicked Mogadishu out because she was abusing your rights? isn't that double standard?

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go to the international community, give up awdal and show how serious you are for peace yet you have also foolishly mad an enemy on your south against Absame,

Awdal and other regions of Somaliland are interdependent. It is impracticle for Awdal to want to be part of 'Somalia' when it only neighbours other regions of Somaliland.