The struggle continues.

[Avicenna]

"I wish to rule my own country and protect my own religion. If you will, send me a letter saying whether there is to be peace or war. I intend to go from Burao to Berbera I warn you of this - I wish to fight with you. I like war, but you do not. God willing, I will take many rifles from you, but you will get no rifles or ammunition from me. I have no forts, no houses, no country. I have no cultivated fields, no silver, no gold for you to take. I have nothing. If the country were cultivated or contained houses or property, it would be worth your while to fight. The country is all jungle, and that is of no use to you. If you want wood and stone, you can get them in plenty. There are also many ant-heaps. The sun is very hot. All you can get from me is war - nothing else. I have met your men in battle, and have killed them. We are greatly pleased at this. Our men who have fallen in battle have won paradise. God fights for us. We kill, and you kill. We fight by God's order. That is the truth. We ask for God's blessing. God is with me when I write this. If you wish for war, I am happy; and, if you wish for peace, I am content also. But if you wish for peace, go Solvay from my country back to your own. If you wish for war, stay where you are. Hearken to my words. I wish to exchange a machine gun for ammunition. If you do not want it, I will sell it to some one else. bend me a letter saying whether you desire war or peace."

-Sayyid Muhammad Abdulle Hassan.

[Talo alle udaa]

A tribe does not have the resources to fight a nation a lone. The skirmishes can only keep the woyane at bay from fully utilizing the resources of the land. The only force capable of defeating the Ethiopian government can only come from a united Somalia. Since any future Somali government will be too weak and divided as well as being pro-Ethiopia and Kenya, its time the Absame tribe took a long look into the mirror and decide what is the best way forward.

[Avicenna]

I think it's easy for us in our comfortable dwellings to say that, but for people who have lived in hell for much of their lives, it's a different story.

But, I do agree with you that a strong centralized Somali government is probably the best solution. Until then, the struggle goes on and that's what any sane person would say.

Not sure how anyone can accept occupation and live in humiliation.

[Talo alle udaa]

I think it's easy for us in our comfortable dwellings to say that, but for people who have lived in hell for much of their lives, it's a different story.

But, I do agree with you that a strong centralized Somali government is probably the best solution. Until then, the struggle goes on and that's what any sane person would say.

Not sure how anyone can accept occupation and live in humiliation.

Thats precisely why I have said they need to look in the mirror. Its easy to speak of "dignity" and "occupation" when you are not directly affected by it. The people of that region have been cursed first with an inept rebel movement compounded with a shrewd dictator and poverty.

[Colonel]

Don't count on Somalia, the country is a shambles. The best we can hope for is an open war between Ethiopia and Mujahidiinta Eritrea, ally ourselves with the latter and end this conflict once and for all.

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

Not sure how anyone can accept occupation and live in humiliation.

What occupation and humiliation are you talking about? You act like Kil5 is 1940s Warsaw.

Somalis have their own federal state within Ethiopia where their language, customs, and self-rule is respected. I'm sure somewhere out in the world, someone thinks that you are being occupied and humiliated by the IRS and other powerful American institutions.

[Murax]

I think Ogadeen should try to make the best out of a bad situation. 1 Somali tribe isn't gonna fight a nation of 70 million. Heck the rest of so called "Somalia" is ruled by AMISOM, Ethiopia anyway marka its not like You Guys are missing out on anything.

[Thuganomics]

"I wish to rule my own country and protect my own religion. If you will, send me a letter saying whether there is to be peace or war. I intend to go from Burao to Berbera I warn you of this - I wish to fight with you. I like war, but you do not. God willing, I will take many rifles from you, but you will get no rifles or ammunition from me. I have no forts, no houses, no country. I have no cultivated fields, no silver, no gold for you to take. I have nothing. If the country were cultivated or contained houses or property, it would be worth your while to fight. The country is all jungle, and that is of no use to you. If you want wood and stone, you can get them in plenty. There are also many ant-heaps. The sun is very hot. All you can get from me is war - nothing else. I have met your men in battle, and have killed them. We are greatly pleased at this. Our men who have fallen in battle have won paradise. God fights for us. We kill, and you kill. We fight by God's order. That is the truth. We ask for God's blessing. God is with me when I write this. If you wish for war, I am happy; and, if you wish for peace, I am content also. But if you wish for peace, go Solvay from my country back to your own. If you wish for war, stay where you are. Hearken to my words. I wish to exchange a machine gun for ammunition. If you do not want it, I will sell it to some one else. bend me a letter saying whether you desire war or peace."

-Sayyid Muhammad Abdulle Hassan.

That part made smile
Guul ONLF

[skywalker25]

quote="SSSM"]


I think what is more annoying then the rewritting of history by those with big feet and small IQ's are those Isaaq's who have swallowed this bad PR campaign. If your not Cagdheer you have no right to support ONLF, you should oppose it internally and obstruct it externally. A victory made by this group wont just primarily affect the Highland Ethiopins, but also those who settle in the contested region. You wont as the name explains be treated as equal citizen, but rather as a second class citizen.
Let the TPLF and the ONLF fight themselves into oblivion....

[Thuganomics]

^
Unlike you I have bigger fish to fry sxb,I supports ONLF struggle against the kufaar colonialists
I support the Palestine struggle against the despicable Zionist entity that is Israel
I support our Chechnyan brother in their struggle
I support the marginalized Muslims in the Phillipines
I support the the resistance in Afghanistan even with all their short coming
As with Iraq etc etc

[skywalker25]

the battle between the ONLF and TPLF should NOT be in the above list. You are turning what is in reality a struggle for power, into something totally different. In Somaligalbeed a host of other Somali tribes also reside, why are they not being persecuted? They are not targeted by the TPLF on the contrary, they have in the past been targted by the ONLF. Only a single tribe has refused peace and chosen the path of direct conflict with the Ethiopian state which has inturn led to the Ethiopians returning the favour with interest. However, they have tried to contain the conflict and have not attacked any other tribe.

Sxb, its easy to use the term kufaar as cover to justify your support, but those same Kufaars gave a save passage to your people which is why your in england today...

Its not always black and white be smart and dont miss the grays in between..

[Thuganomics]

Nobody gave me save passage to anywhere sxb.As a matter of fact I've been here all my life
Even if they did though it wasn't because of some deep love they had for us.It was just a matter of political interest

[Talo alle udaa]

Not sure how anyone can accept occupation and live in humiliation.

What occupation and humiliation are you talking about? You act like Kil5 is 1940s Warsaw.

Somalis have their own federal state within Ethiopia where their language, customs, and self-rule is respected. I'm sure somewhere out in the world, someone thinks that you are being occupied and humiliated by the IRS and other powerful American institutions.

Monk, we would like to believe their is "self-rule" and "respect" more than anyone else. The Absame have largely been secluded in the Politics of South Somalia because of their opposition to Zenawi and the Ethiopian government. The problem inside S.galbeed/ogadeniya is their is no sense of law and order in Ethiopia. In Kenya, even though their is corruption the judiciary is free from the government and you have a chance of proving your innocence. In Ethiopia, the courts and the government are one and the same, no one will trust their business investment or their lives if they know they can be arrested at liberty

One recent example is a famous somali businessmen whose family owned towers in mogadishu and kismaayo (Ina xaaqi qoraxey). He was told that the Ethiopian government had change its ways and so he's own clansmen told him to invest in the country. He went to Addis ababa and established a company, he even put the ownership of the company under a Tigre guy whom he was working with. Few months later the man's hard earned wealth was confiscated, and to this day he is incarcerated in an unknown jail inside Ethiopia.