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~:Equality is Unity 3:~

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The Final of the Trilogy in the series of Equality is Unity...

Once again if you don't have the capacity to think good or lack humour avaid watching the video.

:) Feel free to comment...

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Caydiid's comments regarding Waqooyiga Soomaliya is towards one particular clan, the Isaaq. Now, what I want to know is, if appeasing the Isaaq would change anything, then what about the Samaroon, Dhulbahante, Warsangeli and Northern Gabooye communities in Waqooyiga Soomaliya? Don't they need to be appeased, as well?

The problem with Caydiid's comments is that he killed hundreds of thousands of Daarods, raped their women and looted their properties, while speaking about "apologizing" and "appeasing" to the Isaaq tribe, who have been rebels for 10 years. The SNM were killing and they were getting killed. Fair game. :|
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Re: ~:Equality is Unity 3:~

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Conqueror wrote:The problem with Caydiid's comments is that he killed hundreds of thousands of Daarods, raped their women and looted their properties,
And Daarodd never killed anyone and were innocent by-standers.
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jalaaludin5 wrote:
Conqueror wrote:The problem with Caydiid's comments is that he killed hundreds of thousands of Daarods, raped their women and looted their properties,
And Daarodd never killed anyone and were innocent by-standers.
Daarod never waged a Clan-War against Isaaq. The SNM were fighting against a Government that had every tribe in it both as Soldiers and Government officials.
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Conqueror wrote:Caydiid's comments regarding Waqooyiga Soomaliya is towards one particular clan, the Isaaq. Now, what I want to know is, if appeasing the Isaaq would change anything, then what about the Samaroon, Dhulbahante, Warsangeli and Northern Gabooye communities in Waqooyiga Soomaliya? Don't they need to be appeased, as well?

The problem with Caydiid's comments is that he killed hundreds of thousands of Daarods, raped their women and looted their properties, while speaking about "apologizing" and "appeasing" to the Isaaq tribe, who have been rebels for 10 years. The SNM were killing and they were getting killed. Fair game. :|

1. The 5 Somali regions must be respected equally.
2. To heal the wounds of the past we must respect international borders according to AU charter(i.e colonial borders).
3. Dismantling one somali region will cascade across others.
4. The propaganda to dismantle Somaliland for the last 21 years needs to stop.

There are Isaaq, Dir, Hawiye and Darood in Kilinka shanaad and likewise in Kenya in differing proportions. It is the responsibility of stable somali regions who have attempted to dismantle Somaliland for 21years and failed to correct their past errors.

I am glad it is finally moving in the right direction. Iley's and Faroole's recent meeting and agreement in Jigjiga to subdue all criminal activity in both regions and the Somaliland+Somalia(TFG) Talks that have agreed cooperation to tackle Serious crime, border conflict, terror, piracy and poverty all point to a Unified horn of africa strategy to prevent any and i mean any further conflicts.

Somaliland Borders are non negotiable and Somalia, Djbouti, Kenya and Ethiopia are all agreed on that point for if somaliland is partitioned there is nothing to stop Isaaq, Dir, Hawiye, D&M and Afar all requesting partition of every State in the Horn of Africa. For the benefit of all concerned we as somalis must draw the line at the :som: 5 somali-state level and work our way back to Equality and unity based on mutual benefit rather then conquest, redrawing borders and creating further hostility.

Somaliland needs to be admired, appreciated and encouraged to continue and progress towards what all somalis want for every one of the 5 Somali states. We need to end 21 years of propaganda and accept that the efforts to destroy Somaliand have only made it stronger and more united... hmmm or continue as you *ucking please the clock aint gona stop ticking cause of your ignorance and you can stew in your own pile of 5hit.

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^ Cirwaq,

Who speaks for these 5-Regions you mentioned? Moreover, who really speaks for the Former British-Somaliland Protectorate?

I'm quite sure you already know, before the arrival of the British Empire, what we know today as "Former British-Somaliland Protectorate" never existed and never had that border (From Loyacade to Yoocade). If we are to cure the root of the problems we are all facing today, then instead of going back only to the Colonial era, why not go pass beyond the arrival and colonization of the Somali people by the British, Italian, French, and Ethiopia and look how things were.

When British gave Former-British-Somaliland-Protectorate on June 26, 1960, who did he handed over the authority and ownership of the region? :| If British handed over ownership to anyone, did British had ANY rights to hand over authority to ONE particular group of people/clan?


Answer my questions thoroughly.
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Cirwaaq wrote:
Conqueror wrote:Caydiid's comments regarding Waqooyiga Soomaliya is towards one particular clan, the Isaaq. Now, what I want to know is, if appeasing the Isaaq would change anything, then what about the Samaroon, Dhulbahante, Warsangeli and Northern Gabooye communities in Waqooyiga Soomaliya? Don't they need to be appeased, as well?

The problem with Caydiid's comments is that he killed hundreds of thousands of Daarods, raped their women and looted their properties, while speaking about "apologizing" and "appeasing" to the Isaaq tribe, who have been rebels for 10 years. The SNM were killing and they were getting killed. Fair game. :|

1. The 5 Somali regions must be respected equally.
2. To heal the wounds of the past we must respect international borders according to AU charter(i.e colonial borders).
3. Dismantling one somali region will cascade across others.
4. The propaganda to dismantle Somaliland for the last 21 years needs to stop.

There are Isaaq, Dir, Hawiye and Darood in Kilinka shanaad and likewise in Kenya in differing proportions. It is the responsibility of stable somali regions who have attempted to dismantle Somaliland for 21years and failed to correct their past errors.

I am glad it is finally moving in the right direction. Iley's and Faroole's recent meeting and agreement in Jigjiga to subdue all criminal activity in both regions and the Somaliland+Somalia(TFG) Talks that have agreed cooperation to tackle Serious crime, border conflict, terror, piracy and poverty all point to a Unified horn of africa strategy to prevent any and i mean any further conflicts.

Somaliland Borders are non negotiable and Somalia, Djbouti, Kenya and Ethiopia are all agreed on that point for if somaliland is partitioned there is nothing to stop Isaaq, Dir, Hawiye, D&M and Afar all requesting partition of every State in the Horn of Africa. For the benefit of all concerned we as somalis must draw the line at the :som: 5 somali-state level and work our way back to Equality and unity based on mutual benefit rather then conquest, redrawing borders and creating further hostility.

Somaliland needs to be admired, appreciated and encouraged to continue and progress towards what all somalis want for every one of the 5 Somali states. We need to end 21 years of propaganda and accept that the efforts to destroy Somaliand have only made it stronger and more united... hmmm or continue as you *ucking please the clock aint gona stop ticking cause of your ignorance and you can stew in your own pile of 5hit.

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Well said Cirwaaq Equality is justice

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Re: ~:Equality is Unity 3:~

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1. Inducing a paradigm shift in the political aproach to address the Somaliland issue if percieved as being a campaign of inequality then however unreasonable the madness in my method it is my personal deduction and choice of counter offensive, due in part on my observation of the totally disreputable barge of policies employed by the temperary governments on life support that have been forced on the Somali people.

2. If you wish to challenge borders on the basis of them being created by the Huropians. They created all of africa's borders so how far back would you like the clock to reverse?. Regardless and if i were to even entertain your aproach and follow your logic then (a) We do not have an alternative method (b) Every clan will have a seperate state (c) Africa will have over a million states.

3. Drawing the ultimate line at the colonial border is our most logically sound fundamental starting point. Ethiopian, Djbouti, Kenya, Somaliland and Somalia all have a distinct clan mixs and i believe this clan mixs (a) gives Darood the best advantages to power sharing relative to a pure Darood based state (b) Increases the changes of relations between the 5 states (c) creates the best opportunities in terms of economics, security, competition, diversity, progress, cultural exchange... etc

I personally don't believe in caln based states with no prior border markers which have no basis of sustaining NOR do i believe in the isolation of a particular Clan into a single adminsteration or state as this minimises the chances of ever enfluencing them in future to entertain dialogue that supercedes clan interest... We are going through a fundation phase and our people's intersts lie by preserving those dreaded colonial borders regardless of how unfair them may currently appear. I am not trying to neglect in my answer the divisions the 5-states do create however temperary nor am i undermining your feelings or the feelings of the 10million somalis that have to share these 5-states i am merely displaying my surrender to the desperate need for a SOLUTION that is SIMPLY the best fit in this situation.

- International borders are easy to manage and contain, the immature somali political misadventures until such time as when a somali can enjoy being somali in it's true sense. We need a temperary period of healing and the colonial borders are our only vassal for peace if we all accept them and enforce them even when they do not benefit our immediate family members.
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^ You completely went off course. I asked you a simple question that deserves a simple answer.

When British left, who did he handed over the "ownership" of Former British-Somaliland Protectorate? Who speaks for the fate of that particular region?
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Conqueror wrote:^ You completely went off course. I asked you a simple question that deserves a simple answer.

When British left, who did he handed over the "ownership" of Former British-Somaliland Protectorate? Who speaks for the fate of that particular region?
No Sir my answer is complete. You simply fail to comprehend the wisdom contained above.

Choice is your should you wish to read it and if for what ever reason you still have doubt in your mind then Sir i must clarify and preempt my conclusion it is not in mind we differ but in spirit for our causes!

Good day Sir.
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