Palestine's hope is non-violent Resistance.

[The`Republic]

It is time Palestinians were real with themselves. Hamas is as much an enemy to their vision of peace, security, and statehood as the Israeli state and Zionism is. I was just reading a quote from a well known economist that says Israel are masters of marketing but with a faulty product while the Palestinians have the most lucrative product but almost no marketing.

Palestinian cause is the moral cause. They are the underdogs, the oppressed, those facing modern day aggression under a well-armed state that has near total control over their movement and freedom.

Look at the major world changes after World WAR II....Indian independence, US civil rights movement, South Africa, even as late as Burma and you will see all this was achieved by non-violent resistance and the power of world moral right.

In the 2008 Presidentian elections, John McCain had to apologize for voting against MLK Day then calling it a celebration of racial war but was brought in line by the moral right of the country.

US Vice President ceeb Cheney had to apologize in a trip to South Africa for having called the ANC a "terrorist group" in the 80's.

The Palestinian cause is the right cause, the moral cause in the current Israeli-Palestinian problem.

Yet almost NO ONE on the Palestinian side is taking advantage of this weapon more powerful then anything in Israel's armaments. Hamas in fact hurts it.

I think the most pragmatic and best cause option for Palestine today is:

-unilaterally announce cease-fire
-burn their shitty symbolic rockets
-adopt non-violence
-and resist as a people using their spirits against the Israeli war machine

This is my advice to them.

[Alphanumeric]

Cease fire was announced. Israel killed the very person they've agreed with. Let's not be blind to reality here.

[The_Patriot]

Did you plagiarise Mahatma Gaandi and Daley Lamas policies?

[The`Republic]

Cease fire was announced. Israel killed the very person they've agreed with. Let's not be blind to reality here.

Huh?

Pat-

Rather I take lessons from history.

[Alphanumeric]

Not sure how to reword what I've said.

You cannot agree to a ceasefire with a people who want to kill you. This isn't an issue of racial segregation, but ethnic cleansing. I've used that example as well, but in different context.

[Rightwing]

Voltage
You must be aware the rapidlly decreasing in the amount of land to Palestinians?.
Sxb. RIP Palestine......it's matter of history.

[The`Republic]

Not sure how to reword what I've said.

You cannot agree to a ceasefire with a people who want to kill you. This isn't an issue of racial segregation, but ethnic cleansing. I've used that example as well, but in different context.

Stop giving them a reason to kill you. They shot over 200 rockets into Israel the past 10 months. This is a government that WANTS an excuse to paint you as terrorists and violent and WANTS a reason to fight you. Why give them that excuse?

You guys are being simple here. Israel has 99% of the world against it. Bring non-violent resistence into the mix and adhere to it and you will see serious progress for you, even the US would be shamed into being tougher on Israel.

[union]

Not sure how to reword what I've said.

You cannot agree to a ceasefire with a people who want to kill you. This isn't an issue of racial segregation, but ethnic cleansing. I've used that example as well, but in different context.

What the OP is saying is that the violent resistance of the Palestinians is giving Israel a sound casus belli to continue its onslaught. A move to end the violence unilaterally by the Palestinians will deprive Israel of all her justifications for violence and grant the Palestinians the moral high ground and victory.

[Thuganomics]

You guys are being simple here. Israel has 99% of the world against it. Bring non-violent resistence into the mix and adhere to it and you will see serious progress for you, even the US would be shamed into being tougher on Israel.

That's a good point Rep,I thought that might be the key too.But non violence protest ,in order to work would need blanket media coverage.So that Western audiences can see the injustice and mobilize their politicians to bring up that agenda in their respective Parliaments.With the media networks been as they are now,Zionists controlled I doubt it would have the impact that you are alluding to..I mean just look at how they are portraying the conflict now.You can see It's a clear massacre if you watch Press TV or Russia Today.Yet western media networks are telling us it's a war.

[Substance]

Delusional at its finest. This aint Ghandis India. When the Israeli jews have this kinda of sentiments you cannot have a non violent resistance.
The people in power are already beyond shameful. I doubt they will feel more shame since they are bystander of genocide and etnic cleansing.
Palestines hope frankly lies within armed resistance and better lobby. Obviously the american support for the terror state needs to come to a end, ofc this is easier said then done but this is what needs to happen.

Gilad Sharon, Son Of Former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, Writes Op-Ed: 'We Need To Flatten Entire Neighborhoods In Gaza

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/1 ... 55932.html

[Alphanumeric]

Not sure how to reword what I've said.

You cannot agree to a ceasefire with a people who want to kill you. This isn't an issue of racial segregation, but ethnic cleansing. I've used that example as well, but in different context.

Stop giving them a reason to kill you. They shot over 200 rockets into Israel the past 10 months. This is a government that WANTS an excuse to paint you as terrorists and violent and WANTS a reason to fight you. Why give them that excuse?

You guys are being simple here. Israel has 99% of the world against it. Bring non-violent resistence into the mix and adhere to it and you will see serious progress for you, even the US would be shamed into being tougher on Israel.

As if what you read is always true. There are multiple angles to approach this, aside from flimsy attempts at retaliation. Fact of the matter is, regardless of whatever medium through which resistance is applied, it's always met with the barrel. Whether legally sanctioned in military fatigue, or settlers in the West Bank, this is ethnic cleansing. From the first days until now, it has always been their objective.

Non-violence is much easier said than done.

Not sure how to reword what I've said.

You cannot agree to a ceasefire with a people who want to kill you. This isn't an issue of racial segregation, but ethnic cleansing. I've used that example as well, but in different context.

What the OP is saying is that the violent resistance of the Palestinians is giving Israel a sound casus belli to continue its onslaught. A move to end the violence unilaterally by the Palestinians will deprive Israel of all her justifications for violence and grant the Palestinians the moral high ground and victory.

I haven't misunderstood what said.

[The`Republic]

What the OP is saying is that the violent resistance of the Palestinians is giving Israel a sound casus belli to continue its onslaught. A move to end the violence unilaterally by the Palestinians will deprive Israel of all her justifications for violence and grant the Palestinians the moral high ground and victory.

Union-

Not even only external pressure, but Israel is one of the most democratic societies on earth and this will yield domestic pressure. Hawks and rightwing like the current Israeli ruling coalition live off of fear and war and being seen as protectors of the homeland under threat. This idea will be mitigated if the Palestinians practice and adhere to non-violence which means pragmatists and left of center like Kadima party and opposition leaders like Tzipi Livni will be empowered. These people are serious and are capable of making very tough choices which may even be unpopular to some segments of the Israeli population.

Here is Livni, the golden girl of the Left in Israeli as Foreign Minister, with a force of iron bluntly stating she will remove Israeli settlers by force if it came to final agreement with the Palestinians:

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Non-violent resistence is the best course of action if the Palestinians themselves are capable of making tough choices.

[Alphanumeric]

The fact you're using Livni removes quite a bit of weight from your argument

[Thuganomics]

The fact you're using Livni removes quite a bit of weight from your argument

Now that's a f-king terrorist,uskag foqal uskag


Reporters call a spade a spade

[AgentOfChaos]

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