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Erdogan must resign and save Turkey !

Post by AbdiWahab252 »

The Fanatical Erdogan should surrender and save his country from unnecessary bloodshed. His revolution exporting business has come back to bite him. The birds have come home to roost !

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... n/2386287/
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Why should he resign? He was elected again and again in a fair, democratic widely recognized popular elections. The political opposition should fight at the polls not the streets. The Turkish state should allow fair and free self-expression but as long as it is within the perimeters of the law.

It is an insult to the majority of Turks who elected him for him to resign.
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Btw that USATODAY article is full of Western bias against the East. Should Bush have resigned? How about Sarkozy? What about Margaret Thatcher? How about Obama during Tea Party ruckus?

Many democratically elected leaders trying to stimmy their mandate in the face of great minority opposition. What does this have to do with "Islamist? "

Turkey is not a dictatorship. Turkey is a fully fledged democratic state. In such a state the polls are the greatest arbitrators not the streets. If the society has a right to free expresssion which is universally recognized let them compete in the marketplace of free and fair polls.
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Mr. Beendiid, Erdogan and his administration have done and continue to do a lot of good things for your people and country. Do you hate him 'cause he's "Salafi" or "Khawaarij"?
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Abdiwahab aka indhacade, badda soo jeexantay ee Daadka gurigaaga soo galisay uma jeedid balse waxaad aragtaa oo farta ku taagaysaa dhibicda roobka ku da'ayso guriga ninka kuusoo gurmaday oo doonayi inuu kaa awdo daadka. Caqliga saliimkaa ka shaqeeysii.
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These guys are the old elite of Turkey and they're expressing frustration at the power shift. The new centre of power in the country both in terms of economic resources and population is in (relatively) conservative Anatolia. Erdogan might have to tone down the rhetoric a bit to assuage their fears but he and like-minded polticians aren't going anywhere as the Anatolians will set the agenda of the country. He also has just started a peace process with the PKK which has tempered the protests of another huge chunk of the country in the Kurds. Some of the protesters are ultra-nationalists who hate the Kurds as much as they hate the more conservative Turks and that alone will ensure the numbers protesting will never threaten AKP rule.

In fact I expect future Turkish political competition to between the AKP itself and wouldn't be surprised if like-minded competitors eventually form parties to challenge their rule. The Gulenists support the AKP but aren't one and the same and might come out as an official political force to compete against them eventually.
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misterioso wrote:Mr. Beendiid, Erdogan and his administration have done and continue to do a lot of good things for your people and country. Do you hate him 'cause he's "Salafi" or "Khawaarij"?
Erdogan is not doing those things simply out of charity but has a vested interest in my country. Its not aid without no strings attached. Iran also has done a lot in terms of aid but Somalis are yet to publicly express appreciation for the support due to the regime being a western client.
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AbdiWahab252 wrote:Erdogan is not doing those things simply out of charity but has a vested interest in my country. Its not aid without no strings attached. Iran also has done a lot in terms of aid but Somalis are yet to publicly express appreciation for the support due to the regime being a western client.
Are you advocating that the regime become an Iranian client and cut all ties with the West?
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abdiwahab is wise enough to know that being a western bitch state is way more comforting than being dragged into the axis of evil. :mrgreen: we are a bit too tired to face the drama that comes along with being an anti western state these days.
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Re: Erdogan must resign and save Turkey !

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misterioso wrote:
AbdiWahab252 wrote:Erdogan is not doing those things simply out of charity but has a vested interest in my country. Its not aid without no strings attached. Iran also has done a lot in terms of aid but Somalis are yet to publicly express appreciation for the support due to the regime being a western client.
Are you advocating that the regime become an Iranian client and cut all ties with the West?
No, this regime lacks capacity to govern effectively BECAUSE it is a client state. It needs to pursue an independent foreign policy and seek friends with common interests.
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AbdiWahab252 wrote:No, this regime lacks capacity to govern effectively BECAUSE it is a client state. It needs to pursue an independent foreign policy and seek friends with common interests.
I'm sure you've your own theories about how it can pursue an independent foreign policy, however, you've ignored this regime was installed, financed, secured, etc by foreign patrons, therefore, hinting on pursuing an independent foreign policy is logical fallacy.
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Re: Erdogan must resign and save Turkey !

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Eternauta,

You are preaching to the choir. Any movement that enjoys broad support domestically in Somalia can not get Western recognition while those fringe movements that are unpopular at home get Western recognition and support. I understand why Marxum Caydiid opposed the UN intervention from the very start because he knew once you let the foreigners in, it would be impossible to get them out.
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AbdiWahab252 wrote:Any movement that enjoys broad support domestically in Somalia can not get Western recognition while those fringe movements that are unpopular at home get Western recognition and support.
Is al-Shabaab one of those that enjoy broad support domestically, hence why they didn't get Western recognition?
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Re: Erdogan must resign and save Turkey !

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The AKP party is responsible for the Turkish economic growth which is widely discussed and imitated. It has also improved human rights. The AKP has given rights to the Kurds.

For the first time in decades, Turkey is influential globally.

Those demonstrating are a minority.

Abdiwahab, abti, he was elected through democratic means. The alternative is military rule.
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