Admit it BV, ceyr is the most useless HG clan. Sacad have their own maamul and were doing their own thing, Saleebaan have ximan iyo xeeb, built a nice little city for themselves, and are good in buisness. But ceyr is confused and bewildered, only known for fighting either as sufis, as terorrists whether xisbul islaam or founding shabab (ceyroow), or being moriyaans indhocade. smh
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if you guys weren't laangaab then why would you be so concerned in them producing so many boys? 
Admit it BV, ceyr is the most useless HG clan. Sacad have their own maamul and were doing their own thing, Saleebaan have ximan iyo xeeb, built a nice little city for themselves, and are good in buisness. But ceyr is confused and bewildered, only known for fighting either as sufis, as terorrists whether xisbul islaam or founding shabab (ceyroow), or being moriyaans indhocade. smh
Admit it BV, ceyr is the most useless HG clan. Sacad have their own maamul and were doing their own thing, Saleebaan have ximan iyo xeeb, built a nice little city for themselves, and are good in buisness. But ceyr is confused and bewildered, only known for fighting either as sufis, as terorrists whether xisbul islaam or founding shabab (ceyroow), or being moriyaans indhocade. smh
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Cayr are the most disconnected. Ok most people were born in Xamar but a lot of people can then trace back their parents or grand parents from the tuulo that their qabiil is based in. It's not always the case for Cayr. As far back as I go aint no one from Dhusomareeb
So Cayr have business people, rich business people but none of them put that back into Cayr - that's what I meant when I said I don't get my identity from my qabiil. This is in contrast to Saleebaan or Sacad business people. I attribute that to the number and dispersion. Back home is not Dhusomareeb, back home is not Cayr. Even the warlords, waa calool u shaqeysi un. This is also why I think Cayr are willing to share with Mareexaan, they don't have the greediness or feel the need to hoard for their own.
And about reproducing it's penance for the ones that were lost - so they can appreciate the value of a life. Not be so eager to throw theirs away.
So Cayr have business people, rich business people but none of them put that back into Cayr - that's what I meant when I said I don't get my identity from my qabiil. This is in contrast to Saleebaan or Sacad business people. I attribute that to the number and dispersion. Back home is not Dhusomareeb, back home is not Cayr. Even the warlords, waa calool u shaqeysi un. This is also why I think Cayr are willing to share with Mareexaan, they don't have the greediness or feel the need to hoard for their own.
And about reproducing it's penance for the ones that were lost - so they can appreciate the value of a life. Not be so eager to throw theirs away.
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Bv if your disconnected from ceyr them don't assume the rest are. Ceyr and marexaan have seen some of the most fighting among the somali qabils. The reason they've managed to keep fighting is because the tol and rich business members have funded them. unfortunately fighting is costly in resources and human capital, that is why we haven't had a chance to invest in infrastructure.
for willing to share with us it sure is a better alternative than fighting us, the reason shabab were stopped in galgaduud is because we didn't fight each other.
for willing to share with us it sure is a better alternative than fighting us, the reason shabab were stopped in galgaduud is because we didn't fight each other.
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I genuinely believe that most Cayr are generally disconnected. I can't see any other qabiil willing to hang their warlords and terrorists quite as eagerly.
Cayr fight Mareexaan when Mareexaan take the piss and they do put you back in your place securely (when you didn't have a dictator backing you) but giving something to Mareexaan seems to come as naturally e.g. Bare Hiraale, sharing ASWJ leadership. Any other qabiil might have wiped you out first chance they got after 91. If Cayr or HG in general were as qabiilist and connected as other qabiils there probably wouldn't have been any room for Mareexaan in Galgaduud. Definitely not as anything less than a second class citizen. Everything happens for a reason.
Cayr fight Mareexaan when Mareexaan take the piss and they do put you back in your place securely (when you didn't have a dictator backing you) but giving something to Mareexaan seems to come as naturally e.g. Bare Hiraale, sharing ASWJ leadership. Any other qabiil might have wiped you out first chance they got after 91. If Cayr or HG in general were as qabiilist and connected as other qabiils there probably wouldn't have been any room for Mareexaan in Galgaduud. Definitely not as anything less than a second class citizen. Everything happens for a reason.
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has never been any sharing of leadership, every leader of aswj have been marexaan and ceyr second. Besides don't confuse the way we use the name marexaan like you guys use ceyr sacad saleeban. Ceyr deal mostly worth a sub sub sub sub sub clan of marexaan which is reer dalal, wagerdhac deals with saleebaan and sometimes sacad. Lakin waan ka xishoona sub sub sub clanism, hence our general name and sometimes as sade.
somalis are not known for ever just giving, the reality is far from the benevolent picture you painted of ceyr, but the important thing is we are not fighting.
As for 91 we were one of the strongest clans in Somalia, it was us who pushed back USC from gedo back to xamar, from gaalkacyo back to xamar, so I hardly see where you or any other qabiil had a chance to wipe us out.
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Cayr are benevolent. You can try to make it seem like you match up in numbers but just look at the map - you lot are surrounded, unless you count Ethiopia. If it really was that ugly qabiil wise it wouldn't have ended well so alxamdulillah.
When I said 91 I wasn't talking about the war itself (I don't want to argue about that though it bugs me to let you have the last word re. what you said) I meant after the fall of the dictatorship when there would have been no one to stop any sick people doing anything they wanted. But like I said alxamudlillah I can at least identify with the fact that Cayr are not one of those sick people. If Mareexaan has any leadership position it's because Cayr let them, they give you things. It's strange, counter-intuitive in the Somali context - then again so is not standing up for your criminals.
When I said 91 I wasn't talking about the war itself (I don't want to argue about that though it bugs me to let you have the last word re. what you said) I meant after the fall of the dictatorship when there would have been no one to stop any sick people doing anything they wanted. But like I said alxamudlillah I can at least identify with the fact that Cayr are not one of those sick people. If Mareexaan has any leadership position it's because Cayr let them, they give you things. It's strange, counter-intuitive in the Somali context - then again so is not standing up for your criminals.
Re: HAG Shabaab subsidiary group liquidated.
Blackvelvet,
Ma saas baa? Cayr yaaba ka fiican!
Ma saas baa? Cayr yaaba ka fiican!

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Re: HAG Shabaab subsidiary group liquidated.
Qof na 
East or West Cayr is the best, while you're at it add North and South as well


East or West Cayr is the best, while you're at it add North and South as well
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Re: HAG Shabaab subsidiary group liquidated.
BlackVelvet is a shameless liar, and not a good one at that.
The Cayr specifically USC branch already attempted to massacre and eliminate Marehan presence in Galgaduud but were defeated only by my own sub sub clan Reer Dalal

Cayr pose no threat to us.
The Cayr specifically USC branch already attempted to massacre and eliminate Marehan presence in Galgaduud but were defeated only by my own sub sub clan Reer Dalal

Cayr pose no threat to us.
Re: HAG Shabaab subsidiary group liquidated.
BlackVelvet wrote:Qof na
East or West Cayr is the best, while you're at it add North and South as well![]()
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Somaliman
been maadan sheegin. Guul ceyr, iyo somali oo dhan 
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Re: HAG Shabaab subsidiary group liquidated.
grandpakhalif wrote:The Cayr specifically USC branch already attempted to massacre and eliminate Marehan presence in Galgaduud
What you wrote and the evidence you posted mays laha. Are you chatting shit just to argue with me?
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Somaliman I do not appreciate being disregarded as a female, waxaan sheegey waa xaqiiqo 
HG sub-clans are as distant from each other as MX and Murusade are.
HG sub-clans are as distant from each other as MX and Murusade are.
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Re: HAG Shabaab subsidiary group liquidated.
makula tahay awood mr hadoo leeyahay inee ceyr la share gareen lahayeen duusamareeb for instance.. meesha minority aad iska bully gareeysiin ineey jogaan maad moodegrandpakhalif wrote:BlackVelvet is a shameless liar, and not a good one at that.
The Cayr specifically USC branch already attempted to massacre and eliminate Marehan presence in Galgaduud but were defeated only by my own sub sub clan Reer Dalal
Cayr pose no threat to us.
just last year your own tuulo called balanbal ayaa la'idingu garacaay smh!:
Maleeshiya beeleed ka soo kala jeeda beelaha Mareaxaan iyo Ceyr oo ku dagaalamay deegaanka Balanbale ee waqooyiga gobalka Galgaduud, iyadoo dagaalkaasi ay ku geeriyoodeen sida wararku sheegayaan ilaa laba ruux oo katirsan maleeshiyadu dirirtu dhexmaratay.
Dagaalkan oo saacada badan socday ayaa waxuu salka ku hayaa dhul daaqsin ah iyo wara biyood ku yaalana deegaanka Balanbal oo qola walba ay sheeganeyso lahaanshaha deegaankaasi.
Odeyaal ka kala socda labada beel ayaa ku baxay deegaanka dagaalka ka dhacay oo 6 km u jirta magaalada Balanbale, si ay u kala dhex galaan labada Maleeshiyo . Dagaalada noocaan ah ayaa aalaaba ka dhacaan gobalka Galgaduud oo ah gobalka ugu oomanasan dalka Somaliya marka loo eego gobalda kale ee dalka.
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