Saudis got start day wrong, might announce 28 day Ramadan!
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Re: Saudis got start day wrong, might announce 28 day Ramada
Hell to saudis I will follow our north america moonsighting
Re: Saudis got start day wrong, might announce 28 day Ramada
there's a first time for everythingKeyblade wrote:Yeah, they don't care what day the Saudis say is Eid. So we'll have Eid on Thursday almost certainly.Hodan94 wrote:Do u live in Malaysia thats in this planet, or another dimension. If the reports are true about eid being tomorow then u cannot have fasted 30 days . It'll be 29 for you.Keyblade wrote:Eid is usually fixed exaclty 30 days after Ramadan over here so it's all good
Re: Saudis got start day wrong, might announce 28 day Ramada
ramadhan started on the 8th. so we should have started fasting on the 9th. so we missed one day of ramadhan.Shirib wrote:Ramadan can't be 28 days, so I would fast 29 regardless.
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Re: Saudis got start day wrong, might announce 28 day Ramada
Seriously? Muslims disregarding what the Saudis say? Impressive.Keyblade wrote:Yeah, they don't care what day the Saudis say is Eid. So we'll have Eid on Thursday almost certainly.Hodan94 wrote:Do u live in Malaysia thats in this planet, or another dimension. If the reports are true about eid being tomorow then u cannot have fasted 30 days . It'll be 29 for you.Keyblade wrote:Eid is usually fixed exaclty 30 days after Ramadan over here so it's all good
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Re: Saudis got start day wrong, might announce 28 day Ramada
The Supreme Court of Saudi Arabia has called residents in the kingdom to watch the skies to sight the Shawwal crescent on the evenings of Tuesday and Wednesday.
Those who sight the crescent (hilal) are requested to record the proof and inform the nearest court.
Sighting the crescent will decide the first day of Shawwal when Eid Al-Fitr is celebrated. If the crescent is sighted on the evening of Tuesday, then Wednesday would be considered as Eid.
If that is the case, then there will be only 28 days of the holy month in 2013. Under such circumstances, worshippers fast a day any day after Eid and before the next Ramadan to make up for the 29th Ramadan.
An error in the lunar sighting for this year’s Ramadan is the reason for the shortening of the holy month. This oddity has happened once 30 years ago.
If, however, the crescent is sighted on Wednesday evening, then Eid will be celebrated on Thursday after 29 days of Ramadan.
Saudi Supreme court calls for sighting Shawwal crescent on evening of 6 Aug | Riyadh Connect
Those who sight the crescent (hilal) are requested to record the proof and inform the nearest court.
Sighting the crescent will decide the first day of Shawwal when Eid Al-Fitr is celebrated. If the crescent is sighted on the evening of Tuesday, then Wednesday would be considered as Eid.
If that is the case, then there will be only 28 days of the holy month in 2013. Under such circumstances, worshippers fast a day any day after Eid and before the next Ramadan to make up for the 29th Ramadan.
An error in the lunar sighting for this year’s Ramadan is the reason for the shortening of the holy month. This oddity has happened once 30 years ago.
If, however, the crescent is sighted on Wednesday evening, then Eid will be celebrated on Thursday after 29 days of Ramadan.
Saudi Supreme court calls for sighting Shawwal crescent on evening of 6 Aug | Riyadh Connect
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Re: Saudis got start day wrong, might announce 28 day Ramada
By Shaykh Ahmad Musa Jibril
Bisma Allah
Alhamdulillah Wasalatu Walsalamu Ala Rasool Allah:
**DO WE MAKE UP A MISSED DAY OF RAMADAN THIS YEAR?**
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I was flooded with questions asking me if the entire ummah must make up a missed day of Ramadan this year?!
The answer is: As of now NO because it's too early to say!
**What is the source of this rumor? Where is the confusion from?
The high court in Saudi announced that people should (START) sighting the moon Tues 8/6/13 night!
When they informed people to (start) sighting the moon (Tues)!
IF - IF - IF anyone were to sight the moon Tues night! THAT would make Eid on (Wed) and then that would make our Ramadan only 28 days.
IF - IF - IF that actually happens the entire ummah would need to make up a day because the ahadeeth informed us that our Islamic months can only be 29 or 30 days!!
***WHY IS THIS ERROR POSSIBLE?
We go by "{sighting}", as the Propeht Sallaha Allahu alyhi wasalam taught us!!!
If we sight the moon on the 29th night of any Islamic month, then the following day is 1st not the 30th!
If we don't sight the moon the on the 29th night then the following day is 30th of the Islamic month.
{{This year}} for Ramadan the moon was not sighted in the start of Ramadan. Shaba'an the month before Ramadan was completed off 30 days!
(Most of the time) we don't sight the moon because it was not born yet - which inshallah was the case this year.
(Sometimes) it could be because of other factors such as cloudy or matters in Allah's creation that make it impossible to see a moon that's there.
Remember we go by eye sight as the ahadeeth taught us.
AT the end of Ramadan you can tell if it there was an error or not.
HOW?
If Ramadan turns out to be 28 days, meaning we sight the moon tonight and the Eid is on (wed), then we messed up in the beginning. We perform our Eid based on the new sighting and make up a day throughout the year.
-The last time I read of a mistake like this happening of the most recent times was approximately 30 Ramadans ago.
-This is a very quick and brief response to the tens of questions I got today pertaining to this matter. I kept it brief and short to avoid confusion, if need I'll elaborate in the future.
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-In summary, IF - IF - IF the Eid turns out to be (Wed) based on the sighting of the moon tonight then we will all need to make up a day.
**********************************************
~Shaykh Ahmad Jibril
Bisma Allah
Alhamdulillah Wasalatu Walsalamu Ala Rasool Allah:
**DO WE MAKE UP A MISSED DAY OF RAMADAN THIS YEAR?**
**********************************************
I was flooded with questions asking me if the entire ummah must make up a missed day of Ramadan this year?!
The answer is: As of now NO because it's too early to say!
**What is the source of this rumor? Where is the confusion from?
The high court in Saudi announced that people should (START) sighting the moon Tues 8/6/13 night!
When they informed people to (start) sighting the moon (Tues)!
IF - IF - IF anyone were to sight the moon Tues night! THAT would make Eid on (Wed) and then that would make our Ramadan only 28 days.
IF - IF - IF that actually happens the entire ummah would need to make up a day because the ahadeeth informed us that our Islamic months can only be 29 or 30 days!!
***WHY IS THIS ERROR POSSIBLE?
We go by "{sighting}", as the Propeht Sallaha Allahu alyhi wasalam taught us!!!
If we sight the moon on the 29th night of any Islamic month, then the following day is 1st not the 30th!
If we don't sight the moon the on the 29th night then the following day is 30th of the Islamic month.
{{This year}} for Ramadan the moon was not sighted in the start of Ramadan. Shaba'an the month before Ramadan was completed off 30 days!
(Most of the time) we don't sight the moon because it was not born yet - which inshallah was the case this year.
(Sometimes) it could be because of other factors such as cloudy or matters in Allah's creation that make it impossible to see a moon that's there.
Remember we go by eye sight as the ahadeeth taught us.
AT the end of Ramadan you can tell if it there was an error or not.
HOW?
If Ramadan turns out to be 28 days, meaning we sight the moon tonight and the Eid is on (wed), then we messed up in the beginning. We perform our Eid based on the new sighting and make up a day throughout the year.
-The last time I read of a mistake like this happening of the most recent times was approximately 30 Ramadans ago.
-This is a very quick and brief response to the tens of questions I got today pertaining to this matter. I kept it brief and short to avoid confusion, if need I'll elaborate in the future.
*********************************************
-In summary, IF - IF - IF the Eid turns out to be (Wed) based on the sighting of the moon tonight then we will all need to make up a day.
**********************************************
~Shaykh Ahmad Jibril
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