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MSF closes operations in somalia

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"Already receiving far less assistance than is needed, the armed groups' targeting of humanitarian aid, and civilians leaders tolerance of these abuses, has effectively taken away what little access to medical care is available to the Somali people
Medical charity Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF) is closing all its programmes in Somalia after 22 years working in the war-torn country.

It said in a statement that the decision had been taken because of "extreme attacks on its staff".

It said armed groups and civilian leaders increasingly "support, tolerate or condone the killing, assaulting, and abducting of humanitarian aid workers".

More than 1,500 staff have provided a range of services across Somalia.

Unni Karunakara, MSF's international president, said it has been one of the hardest decisions MSF has ever had to make.

Since 1991, when Somalia descended into civil war, 16 MSF workers have been killed and there had been dozens of attacks on its staff, ambulances and medical facilities, the charity said.

Last month, two of its Spanish members of staff who were kidnapped nearly two years ago and held in Somalia were freed.

"Ultimately, civilians in Somalia will pay the highest cost," Dr Karunakara said in a statement.

"Much of the Somali population has never known the country without war or famine.

"Already receiving far less assistance than is needed, the armed groups' targeting of humanitarian aid, and civilians leaders' tolerance of these abuses, has effectively taken away what little access to medical care is available to the Somali people."
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Is that a good sign or a bad one?

I mean having one less NGO, should be a good thing, right!
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Individual wrote:Is that a good sign or a bad one?

I mean having one less NGO, should be a good thing, right!
MSF isn't your run of the mill NGO, it provides legitimate medical service and has had operations in towns most would never bother operating from. All their employees were Somali as well.

This is terrible news for sure but I dont understand what motivated it? They operated since 91, what is especially terrible now? They're also withdrawing from Somaliland which is bizarre to me.
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Jaidi is absolutely right ! They are so impartial that they refuse to be seen holding meetings with any UN agencies or accepting UN funds at all. They want to remain neutral and solely fundraise from nonpolitical entities. I have a couple friends of mine who worked from MSF: some foreign and others local. The head of the MSF Holland team is this awesome Dutch lady who was one of the first foreigners to go around Mudug and Galgaduud areas which for years had been labelled unfairly as RED NO GO ZONEs.

Yet I don't blame them from pulling out: 2 staff kidnapped, 2 foreign staff killed, constant harassment of its offices, and the overall lack of respect of the neutrality of this agency by the different belligerents in Somalia: FG, SL, PL, AS etc.
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Individual wrote:Is that a good sign or a bad one?

I mean having one less NGO, should be a good thing, right!
in my view, it is a good thing.
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Could someone please provide detailed reasons as to why NGO's are 'detrimental' to Somali affairs, populace etc.
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Somalia doesn't need MSF.
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AbdiWahab252 wrote:Jaidi is absolutely right ! They are so impartial that they refuse to be seen holding meetings with any UN agencies or accepting UN funds at all. They want to remain neutral and solely fundraise from nonpolitical entities. I have a couple friends of mine who worked from MSF: some foreign and others local. The head of the MSF Holland team is this awesome Dutch lady who was one of the first foreigners to go around Mudug and Galgaduud areas which for years had been labelled unfairly as RED NO GO ZONEs.

Yet I don't blame them from pulling out: 2 staff kidnapped, 2 foreign staff killed, constant harassment of its offices, and the overall lack of respect of the neutrality of this agency by the different belligerents in Somalia: FG, SL, PL, AS etc.
I knew a guy who worked for MSF as well. Not in Somalia, but in general its one of the few NGO's you can hardly say a poor word about. I was just reading that the dude who shot up their office in Xamar a few years ago was released a few months after being "tried" and is walking around freely there. Apparently that was one of the straws that broke the camel's back for them. Also read 16 of their employees have been killed since 1994.


Do you agree that this is a huge blow to FG's reputation and credibility? When the MSF says the climate is less tenable than the early 90's surely that is a damning indictment.
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Jaidi,

Did they have credibility to begin with ? I used to do security consulting and risk assessments. One of my target areas was among my own qabiil. I went there. Reviewed the infrastructure. Looked around and wrote a report. I recommended NOT to proceed with posting foreign staff there. Folks got upset at me but I'd rather be disliked by tolkey than to risk my reputation.

After all, why the fock would I want some innocent, well meaning foreigner who left his/her homeland to help, become victim to parasites ?

The thing lacking most in Somalia is impartial analysis and being swayed by emotions.

LOL - You could never tell my qabiil from my reports and enjoyed the respect of all parties, some more than others.
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Individual wrote:Is that a good sign or a bad one?
It goes againist the optimism that "things are better in somalia"
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AbdiWahab252 wrote:Jaidi,

Did they have credibility to begin with ? I used to do security consulting and risk assessments. One of my target areas was among my own qabiil. I went there. Reviewed the infrastructure. Looked around and wrote a report. I recommended NOT to proceed with posting foreign staff there. Folks got upset at me but I'd rather be disliked by tolkey than to risk my reputation.

After all, why the fock would I want some innocent, well meaning foreigner who left his/her homeland to help, become victim to parasites ?

The thing lacking most in Somalia is impartial analysis and being swayed by emotions.

LOL - You could never tell my qabiil from my reports and enjoyed the respect of all parties, some more than others.
^ Respect AW :up:

Somalis are xoolo sometimes. Kill each other but what do you want from medical personnel trying to help you :x
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AbdiWahab252 wrote:Jaidi,

Did they have credibility to begin with ? I used to do security consulting and risk assessments. One of my target areas was among my own qabiil. I went there. Reviewed the infrastructure. Looked around and wrote a report. I recommended NOT to proceed with posting foreign staff there. Folks got upset at me but I'd rather be disliked by tolkey than to risk my reputation.

After all, why the fock would I want some innocent, well meaning foreigner who left his/her homeland to help, become victim to parasites ?

The thing lacking most in Somalia is impartial analysis and being swayed by emotions.

LOL - You could never tell my qabiil from my reports and enjoyed the respect of all parties, some more than others.
You can open your security consulting company and write reports for the govt, train the official staffs...this is what my friends do but they haven't established yet very well though they met the president and the pm and the first thing they did was banning to carry mobiles in the offices.
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It`s all down to Hassan Sheikh........and the 1990s climate he has created.
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original dervish wrote:It`s all down to Hassan Sheikh........and the 1990s climate he has created.
How they are inter-related?
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The decision comes after the release from prison of a Somali man convicted of killing two MSF staff. In December 2011 a Somali employee of MSF who recently learned his contract would not be renewed shot and killed a Belgian and an Indonesian worker at an MSF compound. Though the shooter was convicted and sentenced to 30 years, authorities released him from prison after only three months, MSF said.
In a blunt statement, MSF denounced "extreme attacks on its staff in an environment where armed groups and civilian leaders increasingly support, tolerate, or condone the killing, assaulting, and abducting of humanitarian aid workers."

"In choosing to kill, attack, and abduct humanitarian aid workers, these armed groups, and the civilian authorities who tolerate their actions, have sealed the fate of countless lives in Somalia," said Dr. Unni Karunakara, MSF's international president.
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