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Sultan Keenadiid vs Sultan of Zanzibar:Battle for Somalia

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Prior to the establishment of the Hobyo Sultanate, the Omani Sultan claimed Hobyo and it's surrounding areas. After Sultan Keenadid and his forces seized the area, the Arabs declared war but they suffered a humiliating defeat to Keenadiid. The battle happened in Xindawaco, a well near Ceelhuur. This is one of the main reasons the Sultan of Zanzibar hated Keenadiid, they even fought over Warsheekh. Most Somalis are oblivious to the fact that the country would have been colonised by Arabs if it wasn't for the Sultanate of Hobyo. I'd rather have a Somali rule me than a racist Arab who would have set up harems had he won.


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Re: Sultan of Hobyo vs Sultan of Zanzibar battle for Hobyo

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But Omani is related to Darood no ?
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Adali wrote:But Omani is related to Darood no ?
distant, the Omanis were brutal colonialists in Zanzibar and wouldn't have spared Somalis, even the Daarood.
Their power had to be curtailed immediately.
Keenadiid was close to the Yemenis, some of his soldiers were from hadramaut. In general Daarood are close to Yemenis, the Sultan of Mahrah and Socotra (meheri ismaaciil) was at the inauguration.
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To take advantage of this business opportunity, the Sultan of Oman, Sayyid Said, relocated his seat of power from Oman to the east African island of Zanzibar in 1840.

The Sultanate's sovereignty extended from northern Mozambique to southern Somalia. Africans from these
areas were abducted into the slave trade.


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Keenadiid evicted the Omanis and would have chased them out of Zanzibar if it wasn't for the Italians.
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Have Somalis ever colonized Arabta? It seems like all the travel between Somalis and Arabs is one sided, even though that's not true, ( we have all been brainwashed and filled with lies from 1991 onward s)
I know of history of my people and Aden among a few other cities,
but I wanna know what you guys know. We became Muslim before Yemen and most of Arabia, how can they send shiekhs to convert us ( Confusing) I personally know of the story one Somali Shiekh during the Ifat days that went to Yemen to preach and established a Masjid. Do other Somalis have similar recollections? Or just more one sided history. Shout out to Sultan kenaadid Arabs are very selfish and think everything belongs to them, who remembers during their civil war in Yemen them fleeing to Somalia as refugees and us accepting them, but they didn't want to learn a lick of Somali ( selfish people) they wanted us to speak in arabic to them. We should have ousted them right then.
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JuliusCaesar wrote:Have Somalis ever colonized Arabta? It seems like all the travel between Somalis and Arabs is one sided, even though that's not true, ( we have all been brainwashed and filled with lies from 1991 onward s)
I know of history of my people and Aden among a few other cities,
but I wanna know what you guys know. We became Muslim before Yemen and most of Arabia, how can they send shiekhs to convert us ( Confusing) I personally know of the story one Somali Shiekh during the Ifat days that went to Yemen to preach and established a Masjid. Do other Somalis have similar recollections? Or just more one sided history. Shout out to Sultan kenaadid Arabs are very selfish and think everything belongs to them, who remembers during their civil war in Yemen them fleeing to Somalia as refugees and us accepting them, but they didn't want to learn a lick of Somali ( selfish people) they wanted us to speak in arabic to them. We should have ousted them right then.
Somalis of old never allowed any group to rule over them, this includes the Arabs. These people only understand and respect force, the late Keenadiid understood this. Initially the goal was to seize Socotra but the climate wasn't suitable for a nomad hence the push Southward which caused friction with expansionist slave owning Omanis. Yemenis are better truth be told
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Righteous wrote:
JuliusCaesar wrote:Have Somalis ever colonized Arabta? It seems like all the travel between Somalis and Arabs is one sided, even though that's not true, ( we have all been brainwashed and filled with lies from 1991 onward s)
I know of history of my people and Aden among a few other cities,
but I wanna know what you guys know. We became Muslim before Yemen and most of Arabia, how can they send shiekhs to convert us ( Confusing) I personally know of the story one Somali Shiekh during the Ifat days that went to Yemen to preach and established a Masjid. Do other Somalis have similar recollections? Or just more one sided history. Shout out to Sultan kenaadid Arabs are very selfish and think everything belongs to them, who remembers during their civil war in Yemen them fleeing to Somalia as refugees and us accepting them, but they didn't want to learn a lick of Somali ( selfish people) they wanted us to speak in arabic to them. We should have ousted them right then.
Somalis of old never allowed any group to rule over them, this includes the Arabs. These people only understand and respect force, the late Keenadiid understood this. Initially the goal was to seize Socotra but the climate wasn't suitable for a nomad hence the push Southward which caused friction with expansionist slave owning Omanis. Yemenis are better truth be told
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Somalis would never kneel before an arab ( though arbitration through culture needs to be stopped.)

Did you know Somalis used to own Socotra in the past? During the Awdal and Ifat sultanates, and even before, I'm probably the only one who knows the true meaning of the name lol (No qarxis just yet) We lived there for a long time.

We had it until British colonization, then most of the Somalis left the island and Britain gave it to Yemen, engriis fucks. Those bootleg arabs still live there. But they hardly talk about the Somali history of the place, they keep their filthy mouths shut, and only "guess" at the history of the name, they know the truth but rather play ignorant bastards.

We need another sultan kenadiid and get rid of most arabs in Somalia. Or just omanis whichever
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Brother, our ancestors would spit on the current crop of socalled leaders. Keenadiid was blinded and exhiled and he still didn't concede, the idiots we have now would sell their own mother for Arab/white approval.

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Righteous wrote:Keenadiid evicted the Omanis and would have chased them out of Zanzibar if it wasn't for the Italians.
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Re: Sultan Keenadiid vs Sultan of Zanzibar:Battle for Somalia

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Refer : Sultan Keenadiid vs Sultan of Zanzibar : Battle for Somalia. Qoutes from Ceaser and others.

Dear brother Somali's.
I am a new member to Somalia. I am honoured to join. I was prompted to join due to the suprising comments made against the Sultan of Zanzibar. I had read and understood the Terms and conditions rules and regulations of this respected website. Including the word respect that had been repeated a number of times. Unfortunately I did not see this in the comments made against our deeply respected former Sultan of Zanzibar who infact originates from the Sultanate of Oman. Some of the statements made well be true and some are not of a friendly nature in this day and age. If you compare between the countries of Oman and Somali you will understand what I mean. I always beleive that before critising others one should look at oneself first and ask the question. Have I done or contributed enough to raise up my country and my people or not. You only need to look around and see the environment one lives in to know. If I had posted such comments about ?? I am sure there would be such more negative unfriendly comments back. The comments although negative will only inspire more negativity. Instead of harmony with our peoples.

Yes the photograph posted is of the Sultan of Zanzibar 1896 - 1902 His Highness Sayyid Hamoud bin Mohammed bin Said bin Sultan Al Busaid. Omans long history is today well known. This is his profile of this great Sultan acheiving Sultan of Zanzibar. Thank you for posting the photograph.

Oman once ruled the most of the East African coast and our people lived there up to 1963 in Zanzibar. This is a historical fact. Found in all libraries, history books and educational institutions around the world. Our people learnt to speak Kiswahili. Inter married with the natives of these countries. No other Colonialist did this. The slavery trade was a dark period in our history and had done more bad than good. As the negative events of 1963 taught us in Zanzibar when our Sultan was overthrown. Omani's left behind a paradise for the people ther but ufdortunately was neglected. There are still many Omani's still living in Tanganiyka. Kenya, Zanzibar Congo and Somalia. Today they are our brothers and sisters. In it is not our intention to use negative words and spread unfriendly comments but only harmony. Today Omani's are educated and enjoy to engage with other friendly countries and peoples. Oman has friendly relation with Tanzania today and all other friendly countries of the world. A country and its peoples will not progress if it lives on past events and instability. We open our hands for good relations in the future for the sake of our childrens future is the only way forward.

Oman is an Independant country. blessed by God with its resources. Oman is a modern country with roads, hospitals. schools. Universities, Culture and Heritage and Tourism and Wild life protection. A Very human friendly country and enjoys security, stability, continuity. clealiness and unity amongst its people. Built from a barren desert in to a modern state belending the old with the new in ots architecture. Omans foreign policy is clear that it does not interfere in to other countries affairs and is friends with all contries of the world. Oman is lead by our Great Sultan Qaboos bin Said Al Said - (The Worlds best leader) The Sultan of Oman since 1970 to present day. The Omani history is long and historical.

The Tribe of Al Busaid of Oman - Al Said have ruled Oman since 1744 to this present date
http://www.royalark.net/Oman/oman.htm

The tribe of Al Busaid - Al Said of Zanzbar 1804 - 1963.

http://www.royalark.net/Tanzania/zanz5.htm

1896 - 1902 H.H. Sultan Sayyid Hamud bin Muhammad bin Sa’id, Sultan of Zanzibar and its dependencies, GCSI (20.4.1898). b. at Sumail, Oman, 1853, eldest surviving son of H.E. Sayyid Muhammad bin Sa’id Al-Sa’id, sometime Governor of Sumail, Minister of the Interior and Head of the Civil Administration of Muscat and Oman, by his wife, Sayyida Ziana bint Muhammad Al-Sa’idiyah [Zuzzu], youngest daughter of H.E. Sayyid Muhammad bin Salim bin Sultan Al-Sa’id, sometime Regent and Governor of Muscat and Sohar, educ. privately. Proclaimed Sultan of Zanzibar and its dependencies by the British authorities, after they had defeated Sayyid Khalid bin Barghash, 27th August 1896. Installed at the Customs House, Stone Town, Unguja, 31st August 1896. At his accession he owned no slaves, and immediately took steps to abolish the remaining laws and regulations recognising the legal status of slavery, which he accomplished within eight months on 6th April 1897 (though still retaining certain ‘mild’ forms of domestic and household slavery). Sovereign of the Order of the Brilliant Star of Zanzibar (Wisam al-Kawkab al-Durri al-Zanzibari). Founder of the family Order of the Praisworthy (Wisam al-Hamudieh) in four classes, 1897.m. (first) (div. before 1896), a sister of Sayyid Serhan bin Nasr Al-Sa’id, MBE, sometime Wali of M’Wera, a cousin. m. (second) at Unguja, Zanzibar, H.H. Sayyida Khanfora bint Majid Al-Sa’idiyah (d. at Stone Town, Unguja, Zanzibar, 2nd July 1940, bur. Makusurani Cemetery), only daughter of H.H. Sultan Sayyid Majid bin Sa’id, Sultan of Zanzibar and its dependencies. He d. after celebrating the marriage of his son, at the Bait al-Ajaib, Stone Town, Unguja, 18th July 1902 (bur. Makusurani Cemetery Palace cemetry at Zanzibar), having had issue, six sons and four daughters by his second wife:
We hope and pray for good and excellent relations in the future.
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