southeren somali politics and diplomacy superior to reer wagooyi

[SultanOrder]

A more appropriate question to the thread starter and Perfect Order who both hail from the same tribe, would be; in this so called sophisticated southern politics, why is it your representatives are the supreme losers. The people who are benefiting from all this so called donor constructions are predominantly Hawiye people/regions. You are by all accounts nothing but window dressing to give the international community a sense of inclusive government.

Now why are you happy with zero development and to add insult to your injury, whenever the Hawiye feel like it, they throw your leaders under the bus and replace him/her with who they want. What is exactly your people are supporting this government for? Your only goal, Kisamyo, has long been won and you are second class citizen. Your region has no development or administration of any kind. These so called regions being decided you have zero gain from them. Your whole gain from this is enterprise has been obstructing your more smarter, able cousins who understand and excel in this field. They would not be happy just to be window dressing the way you guys are but would want more than a fair share of the pie.

So my question is; if this southern politics is sooo amazing, you are the wrong people to be praising it. You keep losing in this particular regional game, so why praise it?

Sxb, we are inexorably part of the Southern dynamic. I don't see why you want to particularize the issue into tribes when we are talking about the political dynamics of the North and South.

[jalaaludin5]

How cute. Yesterday mareexan and todays mareexan having a disagreement. ..lol

[Marques]

Lol @ original_dervish siding with the southerners. Nigga you are from the anus of Somaliland, you are not #TeamMogadishu

Nothing wrong with Somalilanders, though some of them seem to think the 88' war was Isaaq vs Somalia which is completely wrong.

[lali99]

When it comes to political suaveness, one only needs to state tha Somaliland was protectorate and had an sign agreement with the british where they could use the sea coast in exchange of not having a british women birthing a women in our land while Somalia was a full colony where not only the interior administrative was administer by Italy but as well as al aspect of leadership. One sign an agreement to guarantee his freedom (SL) while the other was a full colony with plantation owned by Italians (Somalia). Nothing to brag about but once again it is Somalis vs Isaaq. Is not something to brag but a reality on the ground. Britain did not administer any governmentship in in the interior of Somaliland thus why Its colonial office at that time maintain that title for our country instead of writing it down as a colony. 55 years later Somalia is still a colony but this time it is a Ugandan colony.

[XimanJaale]

I hate people that lie about history about a specific Somali region because your clan doesn't hail from it.

Northern Somalia (Somaliland) have never been colonised. They were a British protectorate and had minimal British involvement in their land. The Somalis in the North had indirect rule from Britain, and enjoyed more freedom compared to Southern Somalia. That's why Somaliland has strong Somali traditions and their Xeer and their guurti is still well preserved, and therefore it was easier for Somaliland to reclaim calm and relative peace immediately after the civil war, compared to South-Central Somalia.

Somalis from the North are more independent and don't need foreign involvement to fix themselves compared to the Somalis from the South.

When it comes to politics, the Somalis from the South have mastered the modern type of politics such as being more democratic institutionally, such as being open to women in politics, the age of politicians (by giving younger people more involvement), though the South has the 4.5 system, they still have surpassed the North when it comes to giving more roles to minority groups. In general the South have evolved more when it comes to national and regional politics. With more peace and stability in the South, the evolution of Southern politics will only get more superior. Northern Somalia is still in the same level, apart from having elections they haven't evolved that much. Bare in mind that democratic election was already existing in Somalia before the civil war. Somalia was the first democratic African country and peacefully transferred power in the 60's.

The only disadvantage the South is facing is foreign interventions. The South is suffering from immense foreign interference, which is one of the reason why the South has been slow in progress when it comes to bringing back relative peace.

Also another disadvantage is corruption, which Somaliland is also facing. Somalis whether they are from the South or North are facing immense corruption. Most of the Somali leaders only think about themselves rather than their country.

[Typhoon]

When it comes to political suaveness, one only needs to state tha Somaliland was protectorate and had an sign agreement with the british where they could use the sea coast in exchange of not having a british women birthing a women in our land while Somalia was a full colony where not only the interior administrative was administer by Italy but as well as al aspect of leadership. One sign an agreement to guarantee his freedom (SL) while the other was a full colony with plantation owned by Italians (Somalia). Nothing to brag about but once again it is Somalis vs Isaaq. Is not something to brag but a reality on the ground. Britain did not administer any governmentship in in the interior of Somaliland thus why Its colonial office at that time maintain that title for our country instead of writing it down as a colony. 55 years later Somalia is still a colony but this time it is a Ugandan colony.

this is what I mean with with mythic Mind

the complexity of somalia you will never understand and that tells me more about somalilanders cognitive ability.
I believe my proposistion stands and has been proven, look no further then snet somalilanders reasonsing and total ignorance about history and politics.

lali99 you properly believe a somalilander designed the blue flag

Anyway this is turning into a tribal tit for that because that is what the somalilanders want .

lali qabyalada iska daa walaal not everything is seen through the prism of tribal narrative