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Re: President Obama Praises Somali Student at White House Iftar

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Idman702 wrote:
Somaliman% wrote:
Idman702 wrote:Why are people acting like somali parents are not educated.
My parents are both educated. Don't let the post 91 war Somali parents fool you.
Am talking about highly educated parents with masters and phd and flurishing career that even cadaan man admires, not somali standard educated as a translator or a teacher assistant even though that is an achievement. No offence though.
Looooooooool@ cadaan people admire. Since when does it matter what cadaan people admire?

Fyi cadaans are easily impressed they admire the local massai arrow shaving skills let alone a teacher!

And I wasn't talking about being a teacher or tanslator. :lol:
Are your parent multi millionaires? Did you get privat tutors and go to private school?

Come one no one is trying to undermine her achievement, we only saying that her social and economic standard of living put her in position to achieve this as opposed to us regular somalis.

I hate how people use her as an example to denigrate other somalis and specifically male somalis. Like this is gender driven! You wouldn't hear stuff like this if she was a male.

But I love her work in helping horn of african kids and her non profit work! Kudos to her! I salute her!
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Re: President Obama Praises Somali Student at White House Iftar

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Prlnce wrote:
SaciidAyanleh wrote: Obama is one of the greatest enemies of Muslims in the world today. She's a hypocrite, as well.
You just lost all credibility in your argument by saying ridiculous things like that. Barack Hussein Obama the son kenyan muslim and step son of Indonesian muslim. That hosts iftar dinner and praises muslim achievements in a country where the politically expedient thing do is to vilify muslims. Next...
Are you even American? http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/god-an ... rge-w-bush
s the White House dinner tonight celebrating Ramadan and honoring the contributions of American Muslims the latest exhibit in President Obama's charm offensive toward the global Islamic community?

Sure, but it wasn't Obama's idea. Turns out that the Ramadan dinner was an innovation of George W. Bush, who hosted one every year he was in office and who also used the event to recognize the contributions of American Muslims.
If you don't know why Obama is an enemy of Muslims, you can read my reply to iandi in this thread for a one sentence synopsis.

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Prince wrote:
SaciidAyanleh wrote:
Kaafiye wrote: Notice how you're labeling this young Somali woman as a "hypocrite" yet you wouldn't do the same if she was a young African-American woman.

You are a hater of Somalis. It's plain and simple. Now exit this thread. :arrow:
I'm pretty sure the woman we're speaking about is Sudani. Sooooooooooo...
They want to have it both ways sxb... They want to condemn Somalis, Sudanese, muslims for not assimilating and criticizes the ones that do. What difference does it make if she is sudanese. You should praise her for exercising her freedom of speech and her right to protest. Basically what you are saying she should keep her mouth shut and not speak out against a racist, bigoted and war-mongering Benjamin Netanyahu.In America and the west you fight fire with fire being submissive doesn't achieve anything.
Again, she's in a PR position. Go look up what PR means.
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MoAwr wrote:
Sophisticate wrote:
My mother has a bachelor in business administration from the US and my father has a Masters in Civil Engineering from Russia. My mother's sister and her husband have PhDs, many of their friends are formally educated. I'm related to a couple professors and doctors. Idman is right. Quit assuming everyone is uneducated.
Ramadan mubarak

Soph I'm related to few(well a lot) geel/goat herders, I think I have one 8th cousin with a degree!
Can we eat on same table discussing the effect of the bacda buluuga on the geela's diet?

Ps well done to that remarkable Young lady
MoAwr,

Where have you been sxb? Much like sister, Idman I was addressing Somaliman% and he seemed to be under the impression that every Somali family lacks a formally educated father and/or mother in the (west). He's also under the impression that only a series of diplomas/degrees is definitive of education alone. I'm not going to lie it certainly helps, but the brother does not understand that one must always learn experientially. Learning takes place within and outside institutions. Geel herding is an education also, it gives one the ability to subsist. Sadly, only Lamas roam around here and they aren't as valuable as Geel. Unless you can think of a crafty way for using their milk or wool. Sadly, many have 9-5 jobs, split-shift work or precarious labour (all which accomplish the hand-to-mouth + some luxuries), for them it is necessary. Jobs = active income so they are ok, but you only earn around a 24 hr clock (only when you are awake) + some % bonus/commission depending on where you work. However, one should consider transcending the clock and think of a different wealth generating tool i.e. create passive income. The problem with Somaliman% is he undervalues geel herding and also assumes Somalis lack formal education too, what a pity somaha. He needs someone to shake up his little paradigm. Don't you think so? :win:
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iandi wrote:Again he is taking all kinds of flak for releasing about half the prisoners from guantanamo and he is an enemy of muslims? I predict he will close guantanamo by the time he leaves office. The Drone thing you could make a good argument there.

The rest of the stuff you mentioned are not about muslims so i don't think you make a good case for him being the "greatest enemies of muslims".

But you have some valid points that can be argued both pro and con.
Notice how all those reasons he mentioned affects both Muslims and non-Muslims alike. Obama's pursuit of Snowden and America's health care crisis are not Muslim-specific issues. How he came to the conclusion that Obama is the "greatest enemies of the Muslims" is beyond me.

Domestically, the lives of Muslims aren't exponentially worse than they were under Bush or Clinton, so I don't know what he's on to there. And in foreign affairs department, like you said iandi, he makes every effort possible to separate terrorist and hijackers of Islam from the the majority peaceful Muslims who mind their own business. When he went to Palestine and Israel a few years back, he berated Israel in a way an American President in office has never done before him, thereby breaking with tradition. As a president who is in a complex political system where lobbies dominate, Saciid's assessment was both harsh and baseless.

As for the drones and America's foreign involvement, nothing new there. America (as a World power) has been serving her interests, and if that means going to Vietnam, the Middle East, Panama, or keeping constant spy missions on China and North Korea, so be it. That's what countries and empires have been doing since the beginning of time. Not excusing it, just saying it's not a novelty brought by Obama.

If anything, Nicolas Sarkozy or Stepher Harper would be better candidates for that description. And even then, that description of "greatest enemy of the Muslims" has a distasteful, almost extremist tone.
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Re: President Obama Praises Somali Student at White House Iftar

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Sheeesh too hungary to read all that.

Congrats to the sister and her parents who did an excellent job.
I would say I have come far with my education having recently graduated from a US medical school although no ivy leage :)
And even though my mom cant read or write english, she knew the value of education.

The best of both combination is a wise educated parent who understands the system.

Ramadan mubarak
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Re: President Obama Praises Somali Student at White House Iftar

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Sophisticate wrote:
MoAwr wrote:
Sophisticate wrote:
My mother has a bachelor in business administration from the US and my father has a Masters in Civil Engineering from Russia. My mother's sister and her husband have PhDs, many of their friends are formally educated. I'm related to a couple professors and doctors. Idman is right. Quit assuming everyone is uneducated.
Ramadan mubarak

Soph I'm related to few(well a lot) geel/goat herders, I think I have one 8th cousin with a degree!
Can we eat on same table discussing the effect of the bacda buluuga on the geela's diet?

Ps well done to that remarkable Young lady
MoAwr,

Where have you been sxb? Much like sister, Idman I was addressing Somaliman% and he seemed to be under the impression that every Somali family lacks a formally educated father and/or mother in the (west). He's also under the impression that only a series of diplomas/degrees is definitive of education alone. I'm not going to lie it certainly helps, but the brother does not understand that one must always learn experientially. Learning takes place within and outside institutions. Geel herding is an education also, it gives one the ability to subsist. Sadly, only Lamas roam around here and they aren't as valuable as Geel. Unless you can think of a crafty way for using their milk or wool. Sadly, many have 9-5 jobs, split-shift work or precarious labour (all which accomplish the hand-to-mouth + some luxuries), for them it is necessary. Jobs = active income so they are ok, but you only earn around a 24 hr clock (only when you are awake) + some % bonus/commission depending on where you work. However, one should consider transcending the clock and think of a different wealth generating tool i.e. create passive income. The problem with Somaliman% is he undervalues geel herding and also assumes Somalis lack formal education too, what a pity somaha. He needs someone to shake up his little paradigm. Don't you think so? :win:
So that is a yes :D :clap:
Scholar Soph! Caano geel business is misunderstood, it just needs the right packaging to combat the Caano boodhe epidemic which is main cause of poverty of the mind. In reference to line3 point 4.3 of you above commentary, we can safely say is not down to monetary, social or geel poverty but poverty of the mind! I hope somaliman% is doing further qualitative analysis
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Re: President Obama Praises Somali Student at White House Iftar

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somalinet is going to hell why haven't people mentioned yet qabiilkeda
I don`t care about her mother or rich dad, what is her clan


depending on her qabiil I will overestimate her achievement or underestimate her day trip to the white house :D
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