Anyone else notice interracial marriages are much more successful than inter-clan?

[SteadyState]

I've seen this in my own family and others as well. Two of my male cousins were initially married to women of different clans, and the marriages to put it short the marriages ended up being complete and utter disasters. Both my family and their families actively worked to ruin the marriages and get the married couple against each other. Now, both of them are married to non-Somalis (Arab and Pakistani) and are going very strong at 6 and 8 years into their marriages, respectively. While the Arab and Pakistani families were at first against it, they came around rather quickly.

The sad fact of the matter is, most Somalis have a lot of cuqdad for most other tribes and would much rather prefer their daughter to marry some ex-con abu tyrone over an educated and stable farax with a very good paying job who hails from a tribe they hate. Believe it or not, I've seen this exact scenario play out in the real world.

In short, my take is if you want to have a long and sustainable marriage, the best choice is to either marry from your own sub-sub clan (as even within clans there are major internal hatred going on), or marry a non-Somali (preferably someone who is Muslim and who resembles very closely the Somali phenotype).

[The-Screw]

No, they're not. What the hell is wrong with you people always advocating for interracial marriages?

[GAMES]

I don't have anything against Interracial marriages, anyone can marry anyone else they want.

But don't say its better than interQabiil marriage. That's not true

[Itrah]

What is this epic bullshit...

You cannot trust the family of person from a different race. Many of them are secretly racist, even if they do not tell you this. At least with inter-clan marriages within Somalis you don't have to deal with that.

[SteadyState]

No, they're not. What the hell is wrong with you people always advocating for interracial marriages?

Hey, don't take it personally sxb. The vast majority of Somalis still marry Somalis. The thing is, the overwhelming majority of these marriages are people who share the same sub-sub clan, at least from what I've observed. From a genetics point of view, this type of inbreeding is highly problematic over successive generations. I don't think anyone here will deny most inter-clan marriages are destined to fail given the amount of hatred your typical Somali has for other tribes these days. Hence, I believe the only solution to this inbreeding problem is having at least a significant minority of Somalis marrying non-Somalis. Well, that is, if you ever want to have a stable Somalia and not a country filled with inbred and violent people with a large list of mental disorders.

[SteadyState]

What is this epic bullshit...

You cannot trust the family of person from a different race. Many of them are secretly racist, even if they do not tell you this. At least with inter-clan marriages within Somalis you don't have to deal with that.

It is hilarious how disconnected you are from reality. There are Somalis who look at other Somalis from different tribes as animals who all need to be slaughtered, and there Somalis who look at other Somalis as foreigners who should be deported back to Arabia. There are a lot of racist people, I won't deny that, but I have never heard of a single Pakistani or an Arab calling to exterminate all Somalis. I've also never seen a single Pakistani or Arab family actively work to dissolve their son or daughter's marriage to a Somali. The handful that are indeed racist will just shun them instead.

[Itrah]

It is hilarious how disconnected you are from reality. There are Somalis who look at other Somalis from different tribes as animals who all need to be slaughtered, and there Somalis who look at other Somalis as foreigners who should be deported back to Arabia. There are a lot of racist people, I won't deny that, but I have never heard of a single Pakistani or an Arab calling to exterminate all Somalis. I've also never seen a single Pakistani or Arab family actively work to dissolve their son or daughter's marriage to a Somali. The handful that are indeed racist will just shun them instead.

Most of the world looks down on Somalis, even Xabashis & Kenyans have racist attitudes towards Somalis that you are unaware of. Good luck trying to fit in with foreigners when they have utter contempt for you behind your back.
A fellow Somali is always more trustworthy.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Another tyrone/dhegcas-chasing xaliimo that wants to persuade us she is making the right choice, as if we care. Marry whoever or whatever you want - you make your bed and lie in it.

FYI I have seen very few interracial marriages but the ones I've seen are far from stable.

[SteadyState]

Most of the world looks down on Somalis, even Xabashis & Kenyans have racist attitudes towards Somalis that you are unaware of. Good luck trying to fit in with foreigners when they have utter contempt for you behind your back.
A fellow Somali is always more trustworthy.

Why did you have to make this personal, sxb? I wanted to discuss this in the abstract sense so we could discuss this controversial topic in an objective manner, but it seems people can't stop from getting emotional. As for myself, I would much rather prefer to marry a xalimo from my own sub-sub clan that fit all my other desired criteria. But, to put it bluntly, the pickings are slim. I just don't see other xalimos from outside my own clan as viable spouses. Everything I've seen in my own life strongly suggests such a marriage is bound to fail.

Also, I'd much rather deal with an ajnabi family that hates me privately than people who openly hate me and actively work to undermine my marriage.

[TheCadaanGuy]

I've seen a few intermarriages. It seems that the success of marriage depends strongly on what happened prior to marriage and what was the reason of not marrying other Somalis.

For example, Abdi married Amal Shaniqua, He met her few weeks prior to marriage. Why did he marry? He was desperate and was religious (on salafi level). He thought marriage would fix everything. These marriages have high fail rate. I don't think I ever saw a marriage to last more than 3 years.

Amal married Tom Dic.k. Tom coverted to Islam few months after meeting Amal, although not because he wanted to marry but because he was genuinely interested in Islam. He is highly educated. They both met through work/study @ uni. These marriages usually work extremely well. I usually don't approve of this however.

Success on marriages with other 'Muslim' ethnicities depends on the culture. Marriages to Yemenis work. Marriages to desis doesn't usually work. You get the picture.

[Dior]

Wake up people...Its all in Allah's hands. Enough with the calacil

[sahal80]

Lol im not against this but pls try to tell the truth!

theres no a half somali who doesnt come from a broken family!

there r half moroccans who either lost touch with one side, half jamaicans who married other blacks...lost half cadaans since the 50s and those who lack identity, the half saudis who dont know where their somali mothers r found bc they have been deported after their parents clashes

even if there r some few different cases its much harder than a somali-somali marriage

I will give you example for two families

The first is a berber speaking north african husband and a somali wife

This guy is a bit different than the majority of north african losers(as a village people berbers have more values than the north african arabs- but most of the support comes from her side

He has been deported and she brought him back, still lives with her and their kids in her somali xaafad but he doesnt talk to any somali...

as an arab or berber its hard to marry a woman from your nationality specially in the diaspora so in this case the somali woman is better than the cadaan woman but when he gets rich or goes back to his country he will go for a local girl

Th other one is a cadaan husband who met his somali wife in east africa where he used to work for some organizations

It was him who brought her here, according to other somalis who know her she lied to him in the first place about her past like her family now he doesnt allow them to visit her for a couple of days!

[Ismail87]

Why did you have to make this personal, sxb? I wanted to discuss this in the abstract sense so we could discuss this controversial topic in an objective manner, but it seems people can't stop from getting emotional. As for myself, I would much rather prefer to marry a xalimo from my own sub-sub clan that fit all my other desired criteria. But, to put it bluntly, the pickings are slim. I just don't see other xalimos from outside my own clan as viable spouses. Everything I've seen in my own life strongly suggests such a marriage is bound to fail.

That's qabyaalad. All this time you were projecting your prejudices(preferences if that's what you want to call it) onto gazillions of Somalis. There are millions of inter clan marriages bud, and from what I've seen, interracial marriages are more unstable than the aforementioned.

[CaliQase]

Lool Ninkaan sabiishaa cad un buu rabaaye dhaafa

[GeoSeven]

Trust me, you'd forsewear interracial marriage if half of your family was infiltrated