DR. Hassan Sheikh Maxamuud of Bhopal

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DR. Hassan Sheikh Maxamuud of Bhopal

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Re: DR. Hassan Sheikh Maxamuud of Bhopal

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"Federal Republic of Somalia President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud in Bhopal on Saturday said that his country was an apt example of how “bad politics” could divide even a completely homogeneous society — which has one religion, one sect and one language."

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Everybody is Abgal, Muslim, Salafi and they speak Maxaatiri? Did I translate that anywhere near right?
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^^ most are somalis, muslims, sunnis and speak somali
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Re: DR. Hassan Sheikh Maxamuud of Bhopal

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BlueBlood wrote:^^ most are somalis, muslims, sunnis and speak somali
I doubt it, but you might want to do some reading:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_s ... d_branches

"In the beginning Islam was divided into three major sects. These political divisions are well known as Sunni, Shi'a and Kharijites. Each sect developed several distinct jurisprudence system reflecting their own understanding of the Islamic law during the course of the History of Islam. For instance, Sunnis are separated into five sub-sects, namely, Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i, Hanbalites and Ẓāhirī. Shi'a, on the other hand, was first developed Kaysanites and in turn divided into three major sects known as Fivers, Seveners and Twelvers. Qarmatians, Ismailis, Fatimids, Assassins of Alamut and Druses were all emerged from the Seveners. Isma'ilism later split into Nizari Ismaili and Musta’li Ismaili, and then Mustaali was divided into Hafizi and Taiyabi Ismailis. Moreover, Imami-Shi'a later brought into existence Ja'fari jurisprudence. Akhbarism, Usulism, Shaykism, Alawites and Alevism were all developed from Ithna'asharis. Similarly, Khawarij was initially divided into five major branches as Sufris, Azraqis, Najdat, Adjarites and Ibadis. Among these numerous sects, only Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i, Hanbali, Imamiyyah-Ja'fari-Usuli, Nizārī Ismā'īlī, Alevi, Zaydi, Ibadi, Zahiri, Alawite, Druze and Taiyabi communities have survived. In addition, some new schools of thought and movements like Quranist Muslims, Ahmadi Muslims and African American Muslims were later emerged independently."

In Somalia, competition between the Salihiya and the Qadiriya resulted in the assassination of Shaykh Awes al Baraawe. The differences today between the Ahlusunna Waljamaaca and Wahhaabbis are equivalent and the results should be obvious.

http://www.christusrex.org/www3/ethno/Soma.html

There are at least 13 languages spoken in Somalia. The Reewin and Shanbara speak Maay, probably around 3 million people. The Tunni, Jiiddu, Garre and Dabarre, who have their own languages, use Maay as a secondary trade language. I know there are those that claim Maay and Maxaa are the same language, but I don't personally know anyone who thinks they are mutually intelligible, which is the real test.

"Somali" is a national name. The ethnic equivalent would be Samaale. Somalis, come in Cushitic, Semitic and Bantu flavors. Before the colonial and national periods even the Cushitic elements did not recognize a common union. Don't kid yourself. Loyalty has always been to clan, not the state or the parent ethniciity.

There are more Somalis than the Isaaq and Hawiye and official pronouncements especially need to reflect that. In large part, It is the denial of this reality that makes solutions so much more difficult. Saying Somalis are all or mostly the same is both untrue and unhelpful.
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