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Kaafiye wrote: The US is no better or worse than most other countries in the world, which have their own violent histories of genocides, slavery, and the violation of human rights.

One only needs to look at historical patterns to realize that the US is no worse than them. Just look at how Ethiopia and Kenya treat the people underneath their control, and then try telling me with a straight face that the US is uniquely evil. It is not.
for someone imploring people to interrogate history, you have done a superbly shitty job of that task. like you're pontificating in a ahistorical vacuum, a la-la land where all people are bad/other empires suck too and it’s a bit embarrassing.

fyi US imperialism is uniquely heinous and has been since its genesis; not only in its physical impact but its ideological scope.

#fucktheusa
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It's nice to see Kaafiye taken to task. Fey, I salute you.

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Happy 4th, here's to complete and utter hegemony!

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Fey wrote:
Kaafiye wrote: The US is no better or worse than most other countries in the world, which have their own violent histories of genocides, slavery, and the violation of human rights.

One only needs to look at historical patterns to realize that the US is no worse than them. Just look at how Ethiopia and Kenya treat the people underneath their control, and then try telling me with a straight face that the US is uniquely evil. It is not.
for someone imploring people to interrogate history, you have done a superbly shitty job of that task. like you're pontificating in a ahistorical vacuum, a la-la land where all people are bad/other empires suck too and it’s a bit embarrassing.

fyi US imperialism is uniquely heinous and has been since its genesis; not only in its physical impact but its ideological scope.

#fucktheusa
You're the one that's embarrassing yourself by creating a bullshit narrative that the USA is any different from previous empires in history. You're like an emotional wreck who can't look at history objectively.

Please remove yourself from the gene pool.
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jalaaludin5 wrote:I honestly hope you do not believe that.

The indiscriminate use of bombs by the US, usually outside a declared war  
situation, for wanton destruction, for no military objectives, whose  
targets and victims are civilian populations, or what we now call  
"collateral damage."

Japan (1945) 
China (1945-46) 
Korea & China (1950-53) 
Guatemala (1954, 1960, 1967-69) 
Indonesia (1958) 
Cuba (1959-61) 
Congo (1964) 
Peru (1965) 
Laos (1964-70) 
Vietnam (1961-1973) 
Cambodia (1969-70) 
Grenada (1983) 
Lebanon (1983-84) 
Libya (1986) 
El Salvador (1980s) 
Nicaragua (1980s) 
Iran (1987) 
Panama (1989) 
Iraq (1991-2000) 
Kuwait (1991) 
Somalia (1993) 
Bosnia (1994-95) 
Sudan (1998) 
Afghanistan (1998) 
Pakistan (1998) 
Yugoslavia (1999) 
Bulgaria (1999) 
Macedonia (1999)

US Use of Chemical & Biological Weapons 
The US has refused to sign Conventions against the development and use of  
chemical and biological weapons, and has either used or tested (without  
informing the civilian populations) these weapons in the following  
locations abroad:

Bahamas (late 1940s-mid-1950s) 
Canada (1953) 
China and Korea (1950-53) 
Korea (1967-69) 
Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia (1961-1970) 
Panama (1940s-1990s) 
Cuba (1962, 69, 70, 71, 81, 96)

And the US has tested such weapons on US civilian populations, without  
their knowledge, in the following locations:

Watertown, NY and US Virgin Islands (1950) 
SF Bay Area (1950, 1957-67) 
Minneapolis (1953) 
St. Louis (1953) 
Washington, DC Area (1953, 1967) 
Florida (1955) 
Savannah GA/Avon Park, FL (1956-58) 
New York City (1956, 1966) 
Chicago (1960)

And the US has encouraged the use of such weapons, and provided the  
technology to develop such weapons in various nations abroad, including:

Egypt 
South Africa 
Iraq

US Political and Military Interventions since 1945 
The US has launched a series of military and political interventions since  
1945, often to install puppet regimes, or alternatively to engage in  
political actions such as smear campaigns, sponsoring or targeting  
opposition political groups (depending on how they served US interests),  
undermining political parties, sabotage and terror campaigns, and so forth.  
It has done so in nations such as

China (1945-51) 
  South Africa (1960s-1980s)

France (1947) 
  Bolivia (1964-75)

Marshall Islands (1946-58) 
  Australia (1972-75)

Italy (1947-1975) 
  Iraq (1972-75)

Greece (1947-49) 
  Portugal (1974-76)

Philippines (1945-53) 
  East Timor (1975-99)

Korea (1945-53) 
  Ecuador (1975)

Albania (1949-53) 
  Argentina (1976)

Eastern Europe (1948-56) 
  Pakistan (1977)

Germany (1950s) 
  Angola (1975-1980s)

Iran (1953) 
  Jamaica (1976)

Guatemala (1953-1990s) 
  Honduras (1980s)

Costa Rica (mid-1950s, 1970-71) 
  Nicaragua (1980s)

Middle East (1956-58) 
  Philippines (1970s-90s)

Indonesia (1957-58) 
  Seychelles (1979-81)

Haiti (1959) 
  South Yemen (1979-84)

Western Europe (1950s-1960s) 
  South Korea (1980)

Guyana (1953-64) 
  Chad (1981-82)

Iraq (1958-63) 
  Grenada (1979-83)

Vietnam (1945-53) 
  Suriname (1982-84)

Cambodia (1955-73) 
  Libya (1981-89)

Laos (1957-73) 
  Fiji (1987)

Thailand (1965-73) 
  Panama (1989)

Ecuador (1960-63) 
  Afghanistan (1979-92)

Congo (1960-65, 1977-78) 
  El Salvador (1980-92)

Algeria (1960s) 
  Haiti (1987-94)

Brazil (1961-64) 
  Bulgaria (1990-91)

Peru (1965) 
  Albania (1991-92)

Dominican Republic (1963-65) 
  Somalia (1993)

Cuba (1959-present) 
  Iraq (1990s)

Indonesia (1965) 
  Peru (1990-present)

Ghana (1966) 
  Mexico (1990-present)

Uruguay (1969-72) 
  Colombia (1990-present)

Chile (1964-73) 
  Yugoslavia (1995-99)

Greece (1967-74) 
 

US Perversions of Foreign Elections 
The US has specifically intervened to rig or distort the outcome of foreign  
elections, and sometimes engineered sham "demonstration" elections to ward  
off accusations of government repression in allied nations in the US sphere  
of influence. These sham elections have often installed or maintained in  
power repressive dictators who have victimized their populations. Such  
practices have occurred in nations such as:

Philippines (1950s) 
Italy (1948-1970s) 
Lebanon (1950s) 
Indonesia (1955) 
Vietnam (1955) 
Guyana (1953-64) 
Japan (1958-1970s) 
Nepal (1959) 
Laos (1960) 
Brazil (1962) 
Dominican Republic (1962) 
Guatemala (1963) 
Bolivia (1966) 
Chile (1964-70) 
Portugal (1974-75) 
Australia (1974-75) 
Jamaica (1976) 
El Salvador (1984) 
Panama (1984, 89) 
Nicaragua (1984, 90) 
Haiti (1987, 88) 
Bulgaria (1990-91) 
Albania (1991-92) 
Russia (1996) 

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Kaafiye wrote:
You're the one that's embarrassing yourself by creating a bullshit narrative that the USA is any different from previous empires in history. You're like an emotional wreck who can't look at history objectively.

Please remove yourself from the gene pool.
you're cute when you're mad.

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African Americans should go to Liberia.
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