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Expedition to the Nogal ValleyAt Badwein, in the centre of that part of the Nogal Valley which is occupied by the Arasama sub-tribe, we discovered extensive
ruins of an ancient city, and close by a large tank quarried out of the gypsum rock."
Just historical fact doesn't mean I have claimed it for myself.Ben Dover wrote:Are you now claiming Badweyn too?
PrinceNugaalHawd wrote:Yeah it is because I forgot to mention, All the Ahmed Garaad are not Ararsame, Some are, The Adan Ahmed (Hagar, Wacays, Mahad,Farah) the Ali Gari, Samakab, Cigaal Naleeye, Xasan, etc are not Ararsame.
This most likelyJSLHistorian wrote:PrinceNugaalHawd wrote:Yeah it is because I forgot to mention, All the Ahmed Garaad are not Ararsame, Some are, The Adan Ahmed (Hagar, Wacays, Mahad,Farah) the Ali Gari, Samakab, Cigaal Naleeye, Xasan, etc are not Ararsame.
Very clear breakdown now it makes sense.
At that time there was no birkas so the only important places in our land was the places with Wells, lakes and good pasture . Clans used to fiercely fight over such kind of places. An other reason is all Somali clans were expanding southwards no matter if they were defeated in the north or not. Reer hagar may have lost wars against the habarjeclo. but they discovered new territory in wardhee zone with a plenty of wells and pasture and less competition, I believe this new found territories prevented them to return back to the Oogo (cayn) . Otherwise they would have come back and push the habarjeclo back to the guban.PrinceNugaalHawd wrote:It could be Ahmed Garaad or Garaad Mohamed (Baharasame) they are both Ararsame. I would say it's Ahmed Garaad of Buhoodle & Hawd.
Take a guess what catastrophy happened around a 100 years ago? That forced a whole clan to evacuate the whole territory they lived in! And l lose 1/3 of their land, 1/2 of their population. If u guessed right, That's what happened.
Yusuf you are right they discovered new territory too, so new land plus you are safe from the colonist and dervish wars was a good idea..theyuusuf143 wrote:At that time there was no birkas so the only important places in our land was the places with Wells, lakes and good pasture . Clans used to fiercely fight over such kind of places. An other reason is all Somali clans were expanding southwards no matter if they were defeated in the north or not. Reer hagar may have lost wars against the habarjeclo. but they discovered new territory in wardhee zone with a plenty of wells and pasture and less competition, I believe this new found territories prevented them to return back to the Oogo (cayn) . Otherwise they would have come back and push the habarjeclo back to the guban.PrinceNugaalHawd wrote:It could be Ahmed Garaad or Garaad Mohamed (Baharasame) they are both Ararsame. I would say it's Ahmed Garaad of Buhoodle & Hawd.
Take a guess what catastrophy happened around a 100 years ago? That forced a whole clan to evacuate the whole territory they lived in! And l lose 1/3 of their land, 1/2 of their population. If u guessed right, That's what happened.
Beri hore baa la yidhi ninkaa waalan tolkii baa u miyiir qaba. Yuusufoow inaadeer habarjeclo iyo dhulbahante oo dhul kala qaaday iska da oo ka dhex bax inadeer oo hablahaa cas oo badhida weyn leh Boorame jooga la hasaawo inadeer. dhulbahante soo noqon mayaaneetheyuusuf143 wrote:At that time there was no birkas so the only important places in our land was the places with Wells, lakes and good pasture . Clans used to fiercely fight over such kind of places. An other reason is all Somali clans were expanding southwards no matter if they were defeated in the north or not. Reer hagar may have lost wars against the habarjeclo. but they discovered new territory in wardhee zone with a plenty of wells and pasture and less competition, I believe this new found territories prevented them to return back to the Oogo (cayn) . Otherwise they would have come back and push the habarjeclo back to the guban.PrinceNugaalHawd wrote:It could be Ahmed Garaad or Garaad Mohamed (Baharasame) they are both Ararsame. I would say it's Ahmed Garaad of Buhoodle & Hawd.
Take a guess what catastrophy happened around a 100 years ago? That forced a whole clan to evacuate the whole territory they lived in! And l lose 1/3 of their land, 1/2 of their population. If u guessed right, That's what happened.
