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Re: If Somaliland gets recognized...?

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Arturus:
In 1988 Siyad barre killed that dream when he technically signed over the Haud indefinitely over to Ethiopia in exchange for the Eviction of the SNM out of Ethiopia

Why are you so sure that Siad Barre resigned Haud in 1988?

What kind of sources do you have to prove your standpoint?
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luis1 wrote:Arturus:
In 1988 Siyad barre killed that dream when he technically signed over the Haud indefinitely over to Ethiopia in exchange for the Eviction of the SNM out of Ethiopia

Why are you so sure that Siad Barre resigned Haud in 1988?

What kind of sources do you have to prove your standpoint?
How much you gona pay for a 1st class source on all the events from 1977 - 1991?
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Arturus:
How much you gona pay for a 1st class source on all the events from 1977 - 1991?
Nothing at all. Information in this forum is free.


If you want to share with us your sources, everybody will be grateful
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Re: If Somaliland gets recognized...?

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Guys dont tell luis1 about the Ogaden war forum, we dont want him show up there.
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Somalia is practically an IGAD colony at the moment, what a shame.
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original dervish wrote:Obviously recognition would revolutionize s/l......which would be a good thing for all it's inhabitants.
Most iidoor in the know realised years ago that Ethiopia would be the last country to recognise s/l.

Apart from nationalism.....the south has nothing to offer s/l.
The southerners are a basket case under Bantu management.....with no prospect of change for the foreseeable future.

Although the Dhulbahante don't hold a veto over recognition...having them onside will obviously strengthen the cause of secession.
The current status quo where Dhulbahante/Warsengeli are used by Mog/Garowe is intolerable.

The question we should consider is whether we want to live in a Somali territory that has true sovereignty, and where we can determine our own destiny, or remain at the mercy of an Amisom colony run by suit wearing moryaans. I'm becoming increasingly sympathetic to the former. :)
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original dervish wrote:Obviously recognition would revolutionize s/l......which would be a good thing for all it's inhabitants.
Most iidoor in the know realised years ago that Ethiopia would be the last country to recognise s/l.

Apart from nationalism.....the south has nothing to offer s/l.
The southerners are a basket case under Bantu management.....with no prospect of change for the foreseeable future.

Although the Dhulbahante don't hold a veto over recognition...having them onside will obviously strengthen the cause of secession.
The current status quo where Dhulbahante/Warsengeli are used by Mog/Garowe is intolerable.

The question we should consider is whether we want to live in a Somali territory that has true sovereignty, and where we can determine our own destiny, or remain at the mercy of an Amisom colony run by suit wearing moryaans. I'm becoming increasingly sympathetic to the former. :)

The only trouble with this is that Isaaq is not genuine about building a nation. Aren't they the ones encroaching on Dhulo/Warsan land? Do you really think north-western Harti would have a problem with Isaaq if Isaaq did not start the aggressive land-expansionist project?
Come on mate, don't be naive. Build a separate state for SSC and join the Federal union, if Galnus can sit at the table, so can SSC!
Whether you choose to believe it or not, Isaaq have an inherent fear and obsession with Daarood.
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Righteous wrote:
original dervish wrote:Obviously recognition would revolutionize s/l......which would be a good thing for all it's inhabitants.
Most iidoor in the know realised years ago that Ethiopia would be the last country to recognise s/l.

Apart from nationalism.....the south has nothing to offer s/l.
The southerners are a basket case under Bantu management.....with no prospect of change for the foreseeable future.

Although the Dhulbahante don't hold a veto over recognition...having them onside will obviously strengthen the cause of secession.
The current status quo where Dhulbahante/Warsengeli are used by Mog/Garowe is intolerable.

The question we should consider is whether we want to live in a Somali territory that has true sovereignty, and where we can determine our own destiny, or remain at the mercy of an Amisom colony run by suit wearing moryaans. I'm becoming increasingly sympathetic to the former. :)

The only trouble with this is that Isaaq is not genuine about building a nation. Aren't they the ones encroaching on Dhulo/Warsan land? Do you really think north-western Harti would have a problem with Isaaq if Isaaq did not start the aggressive land-expansionist project?
Come on mate, don't be naive. Build a separate state for SSC and join the Federal union, if Galnus can sit at the table, so can SSC!
Whether you choose to believe it or not, Isaaq have an inherent fear and obsession with Daarood.
If you say so.

The darood threat to Isaaq/Hawiya in former Somalia has been vanquished/extinguished.

How the once mighty tribe of Darood has fallen is sad to see.

Darood has been politically neutralized and the best parts are being cannibalised as we speak REGION 5/NFD and Khatumo.

All Puntland can do is watch from the sidelines as a result of weakness.

All Darood can do is talk about who will be a senator/Mp in the Republic of Hawiya

We are dead serious about Somaliland including Sool and Eastern Sanaag.

Somaliland is here to stay better get used to the new reality.
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Re: If Somaliland gets recognized...?

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GIJaamac wrote:The young couples in SL who married in 1991 are now grandparents. I don't understand how people still believe in ictiraaf. It will never happen.
The young couples in Mogadishu who married in 1991 are probably dead.

So I suppose when you think of it peace with absence of UN recognition is better than having a full recognition and death
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