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why do arab gulf countries not help Somalia

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Why do Arab gulf countries not help Somalia?

Turkey has been more helpful to Somalia than any arab country, even with its small amount of FDI... last year Turkish FDI stood at $100 million, making Somalia the 3rd largest reciptent of Turkish FDI in Africa

when sisi in Egypt came to power, Egypts economy was in a mess and was given a $30 billion aid package.... Gulf countries also intend to raise their investments in Egypt from $27 billion to $51 billion... That shows that Egypts FDI stock is primarily financed by gulf arabs and specially since Egypts overall FDI stock is close to $90 billion

Sudan has $26 billion of registered Saudi investments of which $12 billion are completed so far, Kuwait registered are $9 billion and UAE $7 billion, overall the country completed FDI is $42 billion and those registered are $68 billion... expected to increase to $86 billion by 2020

in 2013 there was a plan by gulf arab states to inject upto $120 billion in FDI towards Morocco by 2030, that is a large amount of FDI too that coud transform Morocco into a regional power.. let alone the military support they get to face Algeria

Jordan has received $20 billion in FDI, Lebanon about $12 billion and Mauritania about $3 billion in registered investments... it was a bit hard to find data on syria before 2011 but some estimates put it on $7 billion


Now these rich arab countries have all those billions worth of money to inject in different countries, but why not in Somalia? Somalia is closer to the gulf than Morocco...
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They're mad because of the anti UAE stance in Somalia. We even kicked their ambassador out of mogadishu so they're uniting to destroy Somalia which has failed miserably so far
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Walle DhagaCas wax inay naga qadaayn . There all pussies. Libaaxyada HG , Sarakisha OG, Qoriyada MJ , Raga DL iyo Somali oo idil could take on Saudi. Houthi xuna bay Dili waayeene do you think soomali oo idil inay wax yeeli karan
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PanSomaliNationalist wrote: Sat May 06, 2017 5:22 pm They're mad because of the anti UAE stance in Somalia. We even kicked their ambassador out of mogadishu so they're uniting to destroy Somalia which has failed miserably so far
Somalia needs to cooperate with its African partners then such as Ethiopia, Uganda and Kenya... they ay not inject billions in somalia but they can help security wise

in terms of economy, Somalia shoudl try to separate politics from the economy to allow private companies to invest in Somalia from the gulf
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Abdelrahim wrote: Sat May 06, 2017 5:28 pm
PanSomaliNationalist wrote: Sat May 06, 2017 5:22 pm They're mad because of the anti UAE stance in Somalia. We even kicked their ambassador out of mogadishu so they're uniting to destroy Somalia which has failed miserably so far
Somalia needs to cooperate with its African partners then such as Ethiopia, Uganda and Kenya... they ay not inject billions in somalia but they can help security wise

in terms of economy, Somalia shoudl try to separate politics from the economy to allow private companies to invest in Somalia from the gulf
Bad idea east africa hates Somalia and try destabilizing us at every given moment via the IGAD.

I'd say Somalias best bet is to cooperate with the far east and re open ties with Iran and hezbollah. They'd pay a lot of money to use Somali ports to properly arm houthis

And i agree i hope Somalia should seperate politics from economy
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Here is a better question

Why should they help us?
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Yes partnering with the far east is a good idea, but please don't link with Iran and Hezbollah

Mauritania , Algeria and Lebanon are being boycotted now economically because of their relations with Iran... Sudan since the mid 90s till 2015 was Irans number 1 partner in Africa, but learned a good lesson

Africa in general is rich in resources, but has no capital to develop those resources. Therefore, FDI is very imprtant. without FDI, no Africa country would be exporting oil today. The most prosperous countries in Africa are prosperous because of FDI. other countries likeSouth Korea, Singapore , Japan etc... all those countries develped through eduation and FDI
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Arab countries are helping Somalia in terms of food, cash, and equipment. In President Farmaajo's recent visit to Saudi Arabia, they promised $4 billion USD to rebuild infrastructure and to help the Somali government to meet it budget forecasts. It is the Somalis that should build stable institutions and fight corruption.
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sav12600 wrote: Sat May 06, 2017 5:43 pm Here is a better question

Why should they help us?
Somalia is a member of the arab league that needs help :-O + there was a time when african countries including somalia used to donate to those gulf countries
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gegiroor wrote: Sat May 06, 2017 5:53 pm Arab countries are helping Somalia in terms of food, cash, and equipment. In President Farmaajo's recent visit to Saudi Arabia, they promised $4 billion USD to rebuild infrastructure and to help the Somali government to meet it budget forecasts. It is the Somalis that should build stable institutions and fight corruption.
$4 billion is a big number but where is the source of that fgure?
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Abdelrahim wrote: Sat May 06, 2017 5:54 pm
sav12600 wrote: Sat May 06, 2017 5:43 pm Here is a better question

Why should they help us?
Somalia is a member of the arab league that needs help :-O + there was a time when african countries including somalia used to donate to those gulf countries

sxb stop bieng naive, there is nothing such as free meal the quicker you get it the better+ gulf nations do send us aid if that makes you happy+ we never gave them shit

Ps nobody likes a self entitled pricks which is exactly what we are and why nobody gives two rats ass when we are dropping like flies during every drought.
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sav12600 wrote: Sat May 06, 2017 6:01 pm
Abdelrahim wrote: Sat May 06, 2017 5:54 pm
sav12600 wrote: Sat May 06, 2017 5:43 pm Here is a better question

Why should they help us?
Somalia is a member of the arab league that needs help :-O + there was a time when african countries including somalia used to donate to those gulf countries

sxb stop bieng naive, there is nothing such as free meal the quicker you get it the better+ gulf nations do send us aid if that makes you happy+ we never gave them shit

Ps nobody likes a self entitled pricks which is exactly what we are and why nobody gives two rats ass when we are dropping like flies during every drought.

Somalia is located on a strategic zone which could disrupt world trade!

If somalia falls,how can those gulf countries trade with Europe?? and of course they send some aid, the whole world sends aid to Somalia! but why don't gulf countries invest in somalia like they do in other countries? at least to Turkeys level? somalia boycotted relations with Iran for the gulf, but onl got $50 million>???
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Abdelrahim wrote: Sat May 06, 2017 5:55 pm
gegiroor wrote: Sat May 06, 2017 5:53 pm Arab countries are helping Somalia in terms of food, cash, and equipment. In President Farmaajo's recent visit to Saudi Arabia, they promised $4 billion USD to rebuild infrastructure and to help the Somali government to meet it budget forecasts. It is the Somalis that should build stable institutions and fight corruption.
$4 billion is a big number but where is the source of that fgure?



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If Somalia falls trade in the Middle East will survive take my word for it, our strategic location will only have value after good infrastructure other then that yes they do invest in Somalia UAE are the once that financed the mereray sugar plant in the jubaland in the 70's they are investing in our ports and they also pump millions in our budgets so what else do you want from them?
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no mention of $4 billion, just statements of support such as infrastructure development...
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