is orthodox islam possible without sufism ?

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Re: is orthodox islam possible without sufism ?

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Gegiroor, do you want an official debate between Sufism and Salafism?

We quote books, scholars in Arabic and we will make it a historical debate.

Are you ready?

We can make a thread on it, if you wish. Call all your Salfit Khariji supporters. I will take you on myself :up:

I will represent the Sufis :up:
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Basra- wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:10 pm paperino

Saudi is filled with Sufis----what is the definition of "Sufis" in your own words?
Sufis are passive, corrupt, liberal and cannot be counted on serious issues.
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Re: is orthodox islam possible without sufism ?

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paperino wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:51 pm
Basra- wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:10 pm paperino

Saudi is filled with Sufis----what is the definition of "Sufis" in your own words?
Sufis are passive, corrupt, liberal and cannot be counted on serious issues.
Do you want a debate. You, Gegiroor VS Me.

Sufism VS Salafism, what do you say?
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Asharite wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:57 pm Do you want a debate. You, Gegiroor VS Me.

Sufism VS Salafism, what do you say?
Why should I debate someone who got inferiority complex?
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Re: is orthodox islam possible without sufism ?

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Is that your excuse?

:lol:

Coward. Keep running away
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gurey25 wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:05 am Yes its possible but we would be much poorer intellectually without ihsan/tasawuf
we are already feeling the effects today.
Indeed, Muslims are truly living in a dark age at this moment of time.
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GalliumerianSlayer wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:42 pm
gurey25 wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:05 am Yes its possible but we would be much poorer intellectually without ihsan/tasawuf
we are already feeling the effects today.
Indeed, Muslims are truly living in a dark age at this moment of time.

LOL, they went into the dark ages a long time ago, now they're into the crazy body/limb fireworks, head collections and funny prayers.

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Basra- wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:17 pm Galli listen to Mufti Menk Ismail---he is great! I recommend ALL Somalis in Somalinet to listen to him

Shaykh Abdal Hakim Murad is the most eloquent scholar I've seen from the west. An intellectual giant.
Highly recommend you to listen to him Basra.

I've seen many of Mufti menk's lectures over the years by the way
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Re: is orthodox islam possible without sufism ?

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abdikarim86 wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:28 am May God help us and preserve our religion form the onslaught of the Satanic House of Saud and their Wahaabi/Salaafi.

It is amazing that despite billions pumped into spreading their ideology that the vast majority of clerics
are still Maaturiidi and Ashcari when it comes to theology. And the vast majority still associate themselves with the 4 schools of practice.

And May God preserve the Suufis who've contributed immeasurable wealth to the Muslim tradition/culture.
Their poetry, their music, their devotion to God, his prophets and the auliya.

:up:
Ameen. Fanaticism is anti muslim diversity, brings about a mono culture (arab superiority). Islam spread via different ways and communicated to different cultures on different terms such as the Wali songo in Indonesia.
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