Thucydides Trap

[DaacasBiyo]

[gurey25]

I am surprised you even know who Thucydides is ..

[gurey25]

"Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad"
The deep state in the US is currently a little disturbed , and heading towards bat shit loco.

The extremely quick rise in chinese millitary technology and the steady decline in US technology
when combined with the hollowing out of industrial capacity in most of the west outside of Germany .
Means that in conventional terms the US empire is already dead , they just dont know it.

The chinese believe in never showing your true strenght, and they can continue to behave submissily for years to prevent nuclear war, unless there are no red lines crossed.

the problem is the lack of sanity in the US..
they way things are going lines will get crossed.

[DaacasBiyo]

Before WWII, the US was controlling a quarter of the world economy, after WWII it was controlling half, now the US is back to its quarter but its corporations now control half of the world economy. This guy believes the US will go to war and I believe that too but I think the US corporations will try to prevent it as much as they can by talking about how their economy is really dependent on China and Asia etc...but if you really understand White supremacist mentally it will not matter, they will forgo money and their own interest if they believe their standing and privilege are in danger, look at for instance the poor and deprived trailer trash southerners who keep voting for the Conservatives, even though they get shitting on they still believe they are better than the most educated blacks because of their standing and white privilege in America, this is the same mentally that permeates all the way to the corridors of capital hill and now including the White house. So I wouldn't be surprised if they go to war over some bullshit.

[gurey25]

i think you are looking at the wrong region.
China has already as of 2013 gained superiority in its own region the south china sea,
any spark will start off as conventional.

The place were nuclear war will start is Eastern Europe /Russia.
The US is piling on ABM systems closer to the Russian border to try to limit the potential of Russia's Missile force, with the silly excuse that the ABM is to stop Iranian missiles hitting Europe.
The thing is US anti ballistic missile technology and air defense in general is one of the few areas that it has never caught up to the Russians. The Russian S-400 and S-500 is at least a decade more advanced than anything the US has like THAAD, Aegis onshore even Isreal's Arrow system.
The US is relying on quantity not quality, by placing more and more systems close to the Russian border they will be more efficient.
Putin has tried every possibly diplomatic way to stop this, and has now given up.
There is a speech he gave clearly stating that the time for talking is over.
When the number of ABM sites reaches critical mass Russia has no choice, no choice at all but to launch Iskander missiles with tactical nukes to eliminate them.

with this game of chicken WW3 is almost certain,
the Russians dont have a culture of bluffing or shit talking, they will keep talking to try cool things down
but when the time comes they always go all the way.
no half measures.

[gurey25]

The Soviets invested allot into air defence in the 50' s and by the 70's they were already ahead of the west in this area.
Another area they gained a lead on the west was electronic warfare, it was an accident really.
The old fashioned vacume tube technology went out of style in the late 50;s in the west but lasted into the 70's in the Soviet union. This backwardness in electronics became an advantage because when you combine digitial systems with the old fashioned high powered systems the Soviets use, you get really nasty shit..

In the west that old fashioned technology was only found in museums and the people who made them retired but the Soviets used that technology for another 20 years.

When the soviets collpased , the Russian Deep state what remained of the KGb/GRU and the armed forces
cooperated against the politicians and they sank everything they had into nuclear weapons research and missile technology and electronic warfare.
The armed forces went to waste, people were literally starving, everywhere but research in these areas continued.

When putin came to power he continued to follow the program and put everything available and the kitchen sink into those areas, everyone else had to fend for themselves.
The Airforce survived because of profits from sales to India, china and algeria, same with the army.

research projects from 1988/89 that were stopped for lack of money only restarted in 2003 because of putin.

but the air defense technology, anti ballistic missile technology and electronics warfare continued to be superior to the west, because the US decided they were unprofitable and hence today US technology is from the late 60's and not updated.

[DaacasBiyo]

i think you are looking at the wrong region.
China has already as of 2013 gained superiority in its own region the south china sea,
any spark will start off as conventional.

The place were nuclear war will start is Eastern Europe /Russia.
The US is piling on ABM systems closer to the Russian border to try to limit the potential of Russia's Missile force, with the silly excuse that the ABM is to stop Iranian missiles hitting Europe.
The thing is US anti ballistic missile technology and air defense in general is one of the few areas that it has never caught up to the Russians. The Russian S-400 and S-500 is at least a decade more advanced than anything the US has like THAAD, Aegis onshore even Isreal's Arrow system.
The US is relying on quantity not quality, by placing more and more systems close to the Russian border they will be more efficient.
Putin has tried every possibly diplomatic way to stop this, and has now given up.
There is a speech he gave clearly stating that the time for talking is over.
When the number of ABM sites reaches critical mass Russia has no choice, no choice at all but to launch Iskander missiles with tactical nukes to eliminate them.

with this game of chicken WW3 is almost certain,
the Russians dont have a culture of bluffing or shit talking, they will keep talking to try cool things down
but when the time comes they always go all the way.
no half measures.

There will not be a US/Russia war until this Russian puppet Trump is in the White house, also the Russians have infiltrated most of the European opposition parties and are not pushing NATO for anything war related, heck the EU stopped supporting Ukraine a long time ago and it's a matter of time before BRICS proposes a partition of that country. I've seen some THAAD tests and they all looked fake, all those tests are done in controlled environments and they use their usual US propaganda to make it look like it's efficient. Also keep in mind that those ABMs usually use satellites for tracking even the Russian ones and the satellites will be the first thing hit in case of war so at the end of the day it's usually the conventional weapons they'll use and chemical/bio are the worst and in this area the US is really the most dangerous one.

[gurey25]

i cant believe you think trump is a russian puppet?
trump was voted in by the people fed up with the establishment, it was a revolt.
failed badly because the deep state just fucked him up, and he proved to be weak as fuck.
trump is now a puppet of the deep state, he will be given a speech and he has to say it.

after bannon was gone the game is over..

[DaacasBiyo]

Trump is definitely a Russian puppet, this guy condemns every thing except Russia, I know a lot of people in here support Russia and for some reason ignore what they did in Somalia during the cold war but make no mistake Russia is an imperialistic White supremacist nation like the US it's just that they like to pretend otherwise and point the finger at the US because the US achieved that goal before them, after all weren't they the other empire during the cold war.
Trump did not prove to be weak, he just proved to be who he really is, a white supremacist capitalist and the deep state is just trying to dampen down his white supremacist side by firing Bannon because of all the recent violence but his capitalist side is still strong and they can't do shit about it even if it's damaging their power.