oromo-somali relations will flourish in ethiopia in the post abdi era

[zidane88]

Gaala used to be low-caste where they even wouldn't allowed to use their own language under Amhara rule, EPRDF gave you opportunities to have your own kilils, use your Oromo language officially, gave you freedom you couldn't even dream of...calim your ethnicity puplicly without fear or embarrassment. I remember back in the day, any school-leavers or graduates from Uni used to hide his/her Oromo roots and declare themselves Amhara. You claim now that Mengistu was Oromo, and we all know it wasn't when he was at the helm of power, he was Amhara then. Now, you're distributors of Amhara propaganda, and biting the hand that feeds you.
"gala na shinti yashanafaalo"

"minim sow aygadhalum Gaala dhamo" were not Tigray or Somali saying but Amhara, and today, you're obsessed with your liberators rather than your oppressors.
The world didn't start 1991, and those who knew before that would only know the situation you clan were in, you can make all the fake history and bravado on the internet to the millenials, but, I, and the rest of old schools know what your situation was, unless you're millenial fed by Jawahar Mohamed propaganda.

There's no united Oromo as you're painting, OPDO know where they come from and where the're heading, but the likes of you, fed by fake propaganda, are the ones running like headless chicken, not knowing the direction of travel and where they would end up, and are thrown under the bus by ever cunning Amharas whose sole purpose is the return of Derg era.


Let me give you one useful advice, instead of crying Abdi this and that, for a start, why don't you campaign the country to use 'Oromo' as an offical language, inatead of Amharic (minority lingo) as you're majority. do you See now where your priorities are? but, you don't want that, instead you chose to focus on other ethnic minority business that doesn't concern you. Enough schooling for one day, follow the intellectuals who knows where the direction of travel is, not your old oppressors.

[original dervish]

Sxb......it's much more sinister than than that.
Amhara's hate Somali's because we will never accept to be under them.

This Waachis fellow is using centuries of enmity between Amhara and Somali's a a rallying point for Amhara/Oromo.
There is absolutely no doubt that if Amhara ever come to power these Oromo will be willing accomplices in oppressing Somali's.

When these Oromo claim Iley is oppressing them.....what they really mean is that its Somali's whom are oppressing them.
Oromo propaganda against Somali's has already led to numerous Oromo massacres of Somali citizens.

The Somali regional government should end all disputes between Somalis and prepare for war with the Oromo.
As the saying goes.....if you want peace prepare for war.

[Colonel]

Waachis beware of messing with Ogaden. It doesn't matter that you outnumber us we will exterminate you. You aren't built for prolonged warfare unlike us.

I am watching Oromo behaviour very carefully and if they try anything we won't hesitate to remove them from this earth. Only the Muzzy Oromos will be spared if they play ball.

dude, we do not fear even if the entire world gathered against us, much less, fearing our kin the ogaden/somalis.
we never said we see them as enemies, nor are we treating them as such, so your anger is not justified, nor is it correct.
i know a lot of somalis love war, destruction, and so on, but take notes from your peaceful brothers, the isaaq, who left war, and are building a successful country. you, and we all, could learn a lot from them, in regards to political stability/economic work.
and please do not forget, that the oromo did not occupy the best green land in the horn by accident, we got it through war, with no support from the outside world, or from internal actors in africa, we got it on our own, through our own blood, so idle threats will never scare an oromo.
war for us, is like breathing.

I see the games you play. Don't worry about Iley or Liyuu, they are Ogaden and only Ogaden can deal with them. In the case that any foreigner tries to attack him without our consent then the whole of Ogaden will back him for nobody can dictate us, do you understand.

Remember who it is that fought the Ethiopian nation for decades while Oromo were being idle.

Also do not compare us with isaaq, they're a small isolated Zoomali tribe with identity issues who happen to be terrible at international politics. They battle fellow small clans like Puntlant meanwhile we fight entire nations. Ogaden has people in high leadership positions in Kenya, we control the Jubbaland state in Zoomalia and are the only factor when it comes to Somalis in Ethiopia. Do not ever compare us to insignifant tiny tribes.

Why do you think our numbers are so large compared to other Somalis? Because we constantly defeated them in war and capture the best land. Along the way we got bored of dealing with soft Zoomali tribes and decided to attack foreigners in present day Kenya & Ethiopia therefore expanding the Somali presence in the horn.

[zidane88]

Colonel., don't fall Waachi's trap which is to divide the Somalis along clan lines, create rift between them. We have seen his true colours, he's extreme Oromo nationalist using his new-found tactic of dividing Somalis along clan-lines. It may surprise you, even our own hard-core Khalid ali understood it and called his bluff. Cheers Khalid Whatever happened between Somalis stays between us. Gobanimo.

[Khalid Ali]

I dont think waachis is a serious kid his tactics are for kids. His severe obsession with abdi ileey. And portraying him as a Satan to Ethiopian coexistence. While he considers Ahmed abiye a messiah send to the galla ethnic group to liberate them from Abyssinian hegonomy. accordig to waachis Gallas opdo are allowed to cooperate with tigre. But abdi ileey ileey a devil when he deals with tigre wa sheeko carureeed on the part of this fellow called waachis from macca clan. He needs to come with a better argument and strategy next time

[Waachis]

Gaala used to be low-caste where they even wouldn't allowed to use their own language under Amhara rule, EPRDF gave you opportunities to have your own kilils, use your Oromo language officially, gave you freedom you couldn't even dream of...calim your ethnicity puplicly without fear or embarrassment. I remember back in the day, any school-leavers or graduates from Uni used to hide his/her Oromo roots and declare themselves Amhara. You claim now that Mengistu was Oromo, and we all know it wasn't when he was at the helm of power, he was Amhara then. Now, you're distributors of Amhara propaganda, and biting the hand that feeds you.
"gala na shinti yashanafaalo"

"minim sow aygadhalum Gaala dhamo" were not Tigray or Somali saying but Amhara, and today, you're obsessed with your liberators rather than your oppressors.
The world didn't start 1991, and those who knew before that would only know the situation you clan were in, you can make all the fake history and bravado on the internet to the millenials, but, I, and the rest of old schools know what your situation was, unless you're millenial fed by Jawahar Mohamed propaganda.

There's no united Oromo as you're painting, OPDO know where they come from and where the're heading, but the likes of you, fed by fake propaganda, are the ones running like headless chicken, not knowing the direction of travel and where they would end up, and are thrown under the bus by ever cunning Amharas whose sole purpose is the return of Derg era.


Let me give you one useful advice, instead of crying Abdi this and that, for a start, why don't you campaign the country to use 'Oromo' as an offical language, inatead of Amharic (minority lingo) as you're majority. do you See now where your priorities are? but, you don't want that, instead you chose to focus on other ethnic minority business that doesn't concern you. Enough schooling for one day, follow the intellectuals who knows where the direction of travel is, not your old oppressors.

Sounds like you fell for the same tplf propaganda that abdi illey uses to justify making the entire somali region and its people, under the tplf as a modern day colony. the same propaganda abdi illey uses to incite war between somali and oromo-all for the sake of keeping the corrupt looters known as tplf-in power. wow, u really wanna defend a somali slave of tplf, who kills and rapes his own people, to keep tplf in power.
tplf generals treat somali region as their 2nd tigray. instead of using their beloved tigrayan youth to kill and be killed, while attempting to suppress the oromo national struggle, they just use abdi illey and his somali youth and other aged liyyu forces, to be killed and to kill, the oromo, while *trying* to suppress the oromo struggle.
if the oromo had their rights, why would they have been protesting for so long, and struggling, risking their precious lives?
because they hate being equals and hate self-rule?! how retarded are you sounding, right now?
bringing up the past, is just a weak tactic, to deflect from the current, and more recent, situation.
today the amhara are oppressed and have no power-why would I hate them or have any bad feelings towards them?
most of them are poor peasant farmers just trying to survive!

how can there NOT be an united oromo when they were the ones who shut the country down? and were the ones arresting your beloved tplf contrabandists, who were using the somali region, to sell looted goods and transport them, to elsewhere in ethiopia?
how can there NOT be an united oromo, when they were the ones paying the biggest price, to bring about the reforms we see and will see?
do not be jealous because oromos are more united then the tribalist and clanist somalis. nobody has to even ATTEMPT to divide somalis, when they do that very well, on their own, hence the reason why the isaaq rather die than re-unite with the south. did the oromo make that happen? or was it the corrupt siad barre regime who was bombing them? the same siad barre regime that tried to make oromos become somali, steal their lands, and oppress them, the same way the amhara elites that you hate, did?!
what was the difference between siad barre's attempt to colonize oromos, and the amhara elites?
both wanted to erase the oromo identity, marginalize them, and exploit them!!

abdi illey will go, sooner or later, and like it or not, as the PM of the ENTIRE COUNTRY, it's Abiy's job to ensure that happens, sooner or later.
a few ogadeni cadres on here, do not represent the somalis back home, the ones sending elders to ask PM Abiy to do something about abdi and the horrible situation he's created in the somali state. not too long ago, a beautiful 25 year old somali woman was hung to death in somali state: and what did you say about that? did u condemn it? let me guess, she wasn't ogadeni, so it's okay?
amharas have no power, thus no reason to hate them. they are not the ones sending armed forces to loot, rape, kill, and displace, the oromos TODAY; but abdi illey did that for years, to satisfy his tplf allies. foolish was he, to ally with a minority dictatorship, over the majority oromo-amhara-gurage-sidama-others. now his allies, tplf, are about to be history; and he'll be FORCED to deal with PM Abiy....

[Waachis]

Sxb......it's much more sinister than than that.
Amhara's hate Somali's because we will never accept to be under them.

This Waachis fellow is using centuries of enmity between Amhara and Somali's a a rallying point for Amhara/Oromo.
There is absolutely no doubt that if Amhara ever come to power these Oromo will be willing accomplices in oppressing Somali's.

When these Oromo claim Iley is oppressing them.....what they really mean is that its Somali's whom are oppressing them.
Oromo propaganda against Somali's has already led to numerous Oromo massacres of Somali citizens.

The Somali regional government should end all disputes between Somalis and prepare for war with the Oromo.
As the saying goes.....if you want peace prepare for war.

the average amhara does not know what a somali is, most likely, seeing as how they do not share borders with them, AT ALL.
the amhara elites may hate you, but heck, they do not even acknowledge their own amhara people as being a nation of its own, nor do they even help their own poor peasant farmers.
The paranoia with some of you is never ending. I'm sure you believe in the boogeyman, under your bed too, huh?
The oppressed somalis sent elders to ask the PM Abiy to remove abdi illey and bring him to justice-so none of what a few of you say here, will change the facts on the ground.
the people detest abdi illey and his dictatorship, like it or not.
the amhara have nothing to do with this. i don't know why so many somalis are obsessed with the amhara, anyway, when it's obvious, their old elitist system was already buried a long time ago, and will never resurface. they do not have any actual allies who would even attempt to bring back that old system. the oromo themselves are a buffer between them and you, anyways, and the oromos are more than strong enough to stop any amhara elitist system from coming back-so you're literally concerned about nothing, for nothing.
we do not hate abdi illey because he's somali-if he were oromo, we'd still want him to face justice.




^ look at the brave qeerroo oromo! they are OPENLY telling liyyu forces to LEAVE, they are saying oromo and somali are ONE, we have NO BORDERS, basically saying our home is the somali's home, but it is not the home of those liyyu killers, who want to divide two brothers (oromo and somalis).


if you interpret oromo hate for abdi, as hate for somalis, too bad, you are free to misinterpret things as you wish, or distort the truth, but in the end, when abdi is gone, it will be clear for all. the somali elders and their people, who are asking PM Abiy for help, are the ones we will do business with, the ones who put justice over loyalty to their clan, sub clan, or ethnicity.

[Waachis]

I dont think waachis is a serious kid his tactics are for kids. His severe obsession with abdi ileey. And portraying him as a Satan to Ethiopian coexistence. While he considers Ahmed abiye a messiah send to the galla ethnic group to liberate them from Abyssinian hegonomy. accordig to waachis Gallas opdo are allowed to cooperate with tigre. But abdi ileey ileey a devil when he deals with tigre wa sheeko carureeed on the part of this fellow called waachis from macca clan. He needs to come with a better argument and strategy next time

it's not an obsession, it's a fact, that he has caused a LOT of damage, and once again, if he didn't, then somali elders would NOT be in addis ababa asking for the PM to remove abdi and bring him to justice. who knows, there may be some isaaq elders too, asking for help.
you guys are free to defend the criminal abdi, simply because he's somali, if you want, but he's a criminal, regardless, and will be treated as such.
he will, one day, in this world, and in the after-life, be held accountable for the raping, the killing, and displacement, of the oromo and somali civilians. if you are against justice, because he happens to share blood with you, that's on you bro, that's something you will have to explain to Allah, not me.
pm ahmed abiy has his flaws, like anyone else, but unlike your beloved tplf, he accepts criticism without jailing or killing or displacing people, he is removing olf-onlf-g7 and others from the so called terrorist list, he is removing the corrupt tplf generals like samora and abay tsehaye and others, methodically, and is TRYING to change things for the better. before his ascension to power, the country was well on its way to civil war and possibly disintegration. somalia and somaliland cannot handle millions of ethiopian refugees, so be grateful, people like PM Abiy, and qeerroo/fano, were the ones who initiated these changes, and saved the country.
if u haven't noticed, the past few years, tplf has been waging a proxy war on OPDO, via it's somali surrogate ally-abdi illey.
do u think tplf is happy or is accepting that its losing power, slowly but surely, over time, to the opdo and other eprdf parties?
or did u miss the fact that the liyyu forces were killing local opdo officials? do u think if opdo was cooperating with tplf, that the tplf would send its liyyu allies/slaves to kill opdo officials? that makes no sense! OPDO of today, and recently, is much different than the POW's and former derg soldiers of oromo descent, that was formed in the late 1980s.
todays opdo is made up of younger nationalists, who grew up as oromos, who were not captured by the tplf/eplf on the battlefields of tigray/or eritrea. they are the younger generation who believe in one ethiopia, with oromia playing its role as the most central region, and as a federal state. they are NOT the same opdo of the 1980s, or early 1990s.

[original dervish]

Sorry mate........I'm not buying that tripe for one minute.

[Waachis]

Sorry mate........I'm not buying that tripe for one minute.

You don't have to. Somalis do not trust their own kinsmen, unless he happens to hail from their same clan or sub-clan, so I am not surprised. Just stay tuned and see how long abdi wedi tigray illey lasts.

[St8OuttaDirree]

Colonel., don't fall Waachi's trap which is to divide the Somalis along clan lines, create rift between them. We have seen his true colours, he's extreme Oromo nationalist using his new-found tactic of dividing Somalis along clan-lines. It may surprise you, even our own hard-core Khalid ali understood it and called his bluff. Cheers Khalid Whatever happened between Somalis stays between us. Gobanimo.

Waachis is not from the border area, but i am. I can say there is no issue with our ordinary Somali civilian. The hate and anger is towards the Liyyu and Abdi. I personally have relatives who’ve been affected and killed.

We have been affected as the Liyyu are constantly in Hararge attacking Oromos. It’s not a war between Oromo and Somali civilians, it’s a game of power right now.

Unfortunately, anger takes the best of both sides. Angry Oromos attack and same with Somalis.

The Liyyu take direct order from Abdi, who takes orders from TPLF. The Oromia state police take direct orders from OPDO and collectively are part of EPRDF. This is a game everyone needs to have an open eye out on.

I don’t trust either side. Illey may do good for Somalis, and vis versa with OPDO.. but there is still someone above they are taking orders from.

The current PM is making changes which I don’t mind and agree with, but unless all the current corrupt leaders are not removed, there won’t be any change.

I agree on the other point as making Afan Oromo an official language. But you must understand, we are also attacked by the Liyyu in Hararge. And this is why there is anger towards them and illey amongst Oromos, specifically Eastern Oromos. Not much help from the OPDO, and civilians are getting angry with both sides.

[Waachis]

Colonel., don't fall Waachi's trap which is to divide the Somalis along clan lines, create rift between them. We have seen his true colours, he's extreme Oromo nationalist using his new-found tactic of dividing Somalis along clan-lines. It may surprise you, even our own hard-core Khalid ali understood it and called his bluff. Cheers Khalid Whatever happened between Somalis stays between us. Gobanimo.

Waachis is not from the border area, but i am. I can say there is no issue with our ordinary Somali civilian. The hate and anger is towards the Liyyu and Abdi. I personally have relatives who’ve been affected and killed.

We have been affected as the Liyyu are constantly in Hararge attacking Oromos. It’s not a war between Oromo and Somali civilians, it’s a game of power right now.

Unfortunately, anger takes the best of both sides. Angry Oromos attack and same with Somalis.

The Liyyu take direct order from Abdi, who takes orders from TPLF. The Oromia state police take direct orders from OPDO and collectively are part of EPRDF. This is a game everyone needs to have an open eye out on.

I don’t trust either side. Illey may do good for Somalis, and vis versa with OPDO.. but there is still someone above they are taking orders from.

The current PM is making changes which I don’t mind and agree with, but unless all the current corrupt leaders are not removed, there won’t be any change.

I agree on the other point as making Afan Oromo an official language. But you must understand, we are also attacked by the Liyyu in Hararge. And this is why there is anger towards them and illey amongst Oromos, specifically Eastern Oromos. Not much help from the OPDO, and civilians are getting angry with both sides.

i don't have to be from the border area to be effected. all oromos pain is my pain.
keep in mind that the liyyu raided as far as bale and borana, where i have family. my clan the maccaa itself derived from borana.
the borana did well, they completely pushed out the liyyu, killed many of them and took their arms.

[BigBreak]

i want my isaaq as the largest Somali clan in Ethiopia to side with Amharas and pro Ethiopia oromos to fight against traitors looking to secede like the small Dhofar Ismail caste particularly the langaab cagdheers

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

Wachis you are Right Ogadeen Is what matters in K5. We want Ethiopia to be under Oromo, we are closer to each other than the Tigre & Amharas, we have border disputes I hope we can solve it, but you are missing that Somalis want self determination and not to be under Ethiopia.

[zidane88]

Waachi's view on Oromo and the future of Ethiopia are as follows:
After years of oppression from Amhara, now, the change comes where Oromos held high positions in the Government with the blessing of EPRDF, the same EPRDF he despises.
Their long dream of land-grabs are feasible, but there's a stumbling block to that destination...that's where Abdi comes in. Waachis can twist and turn the truth all he wants, but the reality is much more different than he's potraying.

Abdi is the only Somali force against that with the exception of Djbouti, who always had a keen eye on Oromo land-grabs against Issa. Had not there been Djbouti , Issa's land would have been in jeopardy. Now, the rest Of Somalis, living in and around Oromo area are getting a protection aginst Oromos by the presence of Liyu. To fulfill this long dream, Abdi and his Liyu has to be removed according to Waachis and Oromo nationalist think-thank, and will use it every trick on the book to do that, whether weaning his support, making rift among Somalis, endless and baseless propaganda.

One example is that those Somalis that fled their homes in Oromia are unable to return their homes, and were resettled in Kilil5. %80 of them are non OGs, but Somalis living there hundred of years. Yet, our chameleon friend Waachis barely talks about them, but talking about their rescuers on daily basis.


Few months ago, his only focus was EPRDF, now, an Oromo PM erected his tone changed, and his only focus is Abdi...the man against land-grabs.