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Re: Lower Shabelle and Banadir should form the 6th and final state

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BigBreak wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:39 pm
GuleedWarsame wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:25 am Somaliland
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Benaadir state would make it 7th state. I can see Benaadir getting a special city state status but lower shabelle won't be going anywhere. Konfur galbeed won't accept it neither the locals.
No son, Somaliland is a separate country that will eventually be recognized as independent. Your Somalia will only have 6 states at most, each with great autonomy via a vis the federal government
It's your Somalia too. :D Somaliland will never be recognized as separate entity. It will remain part of Somalia.
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Re: Lower Shabelle and Banadir should form the 6th and final state

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^ yeah yeah, you sound like the Northern Sudanese or Ethiopian person before South Sudan and Eritrea respectively became officially independent. If wishes were horses no doubt you'll ride it oh beggar from Gedo :lol:
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Re: Lower Shabelle and Banadir should form the 6th and final state

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Shirib wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:58 pm
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:49 pm
Shirib wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:12 pm Every degmo with the exception of Marka (Biimal) is Digil land. This isn’t even up for debate it’s an objective fact.

Habar Gedir are from Galgaduud.
Aryaa shirib what about mudulood iyo Gaaljecel? Come on now...
I’m not saying they don’t live there. They definitely do.
Mudulood (Wacdaan being largest in lower Shabeele), Gaaljecel, Murusade even smaller Hawiye clans like Silcis etc. live in Lower Shabeele and have villages and territory but if we’re being honest the Digil populations in every Degmo is larger.

Now if we’re talking about habar Gedir they can go back to Galgaduud.
Kulaha HG go back to Galgaduud :lol:

if wishes were horses beggars would ride, beg harder sxb i thought you folks exceled in beggary?

Again there is a reason why HG controls all S/hoose such as Deputy Governer, The Baraawe Capital and all the Security apparatus like SNA, Danab iyo Nisa of S/hoose, beesha D&M are confined in Bay iyo Bakool and this is 1000% FACTS.

HG sits on its xaniinyo not beggary like some folks do.
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Re: Lower Shabelle and Banadir should form the 6th and final state

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BigBreak wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:23 pm ^ yeah yeah, you sound like the Northern Sudanese or Ethiopian person before South Sudan and Eritrea respectively became officially independent. If wishes were horses no doubt you'll ride it oh beggar from Gedo :lol:
Eritrea and South Sudan is different from the situation in northern Somalia. You can wait for recognizing but you are just wasting your hope. Somalia is indivisible.
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Re: Lower Shabelle and Banadir should form the 6th and final state

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Kees70 wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:56 pm
Shirib wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:58 pm
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:49 pm

Aryaa shirib what about mudulood iyo Gaaljecel? Come on now...
I’m not saying they don’t live there. They definitely do.
Mudulood (Wacdaan being largest in lower Shabeele), Gaaljecel, Murusade even smaller Hawiye clans like Silcis etc. live in Lower Shabeele and have villages and territory but if we’re being honest the Digil populations in every Degmo is larger.

Now if we’re talking about habar Gedir they can go back to Galgaduud.
Kulaha HG go back to Galgaduud :lol:

if wishes were horses beggars would ride, beg harder sxb i thought you folks exceled in beggary?

Again there is a reason why HG controls all S/hoose such as Deputy Governer, The Baraawe Capital and all the Security apparatus like SNA, Danab iyo Nisa of S/hoose, beesha D&M are confined in Bay iyo Bakool and this is 1000% FACTS.

HG sits on its xaniinyo not beggary like some folks do.
Except you don't anymore and are constantly being sidelined. Long way from the days of Indhacadde and Cirfo now that you're clapping at being appointed deputy positions. The biggest bases in Shabeele Hoose where Alpha force are is in Balidoogle and that's all D&M. Habar Gedir fell off. Claiming we have the security aparatus because some general was named here is like me claiming we control all of Somalia's security aparatus cause the head of the Somalia Army is D&M. You fell off you don't control anything any more enjoy your deputy things while they last cause they won't last much longer. Go build Galmudug cause Shabeele Hoose wax kuuma yaalo.
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Re: Lower Shabelle and Banadir should form the 6th and final state

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Shirib wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:58 pm
Kees70 wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:56 pm
Shirib wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:58 pm

I’m not saying they don’t live there. They definitely do.
Mudulood (Wacdaan being largest in lower Shabeele), Gaaljecel, Murusade even smaller Hawiye clans like Silcis etc. live in Lower Shabeele and have villages and territory but if we’re being honest the Digil populations in every Degmo is larger.

Now if we’re talking about habar Gedir they can go back to Galgaduud.
Kulaha HG go back to Galgaduud :lol:

if wishes were horses beggars would ride, beg harder sxb i thought you folks exceled in beggary?

Again there is a reason why HG controls all S/hoose such as Deputy Governer, The Baraawe Capital and all the Security apparatus like SNA, Danab iyo Nisa of S/hoose, beesha D&M are confined in Bay iyo Bakool and this is 1000% FACTS.

HG sits on its xaniinyo not beggary like some folks do.
Except you don't anymore and are constantly being sidelined. Long way from the days of Indhacadde and Cirfo now that you're clapping at being appointed deputy positions. The biggest bases in Shabeele Hoose where Alpha force are is in Balidoogle and that's all D&M. Habar Gedir fell off. Claiming we have the security aparatus because some general was named here is like me claiming we control all of Somalia's security aparatus cause the head of the Somalia Army is D&M. You fell off you don't control anything any more enjoy your deputy things while they last cause they won't last much longer. Go build Galmudug cause Shabeele Hoose wax kuuma yaalo.
Kkkk Sxb iska aamus you are very clueless indeed,ninkan Taliyaha (GorGor) hoose yuu ku dhilin with your miskiin talk,

even in your Capital Baraawe The Gole Deegan is us, and when you come here you have to go Custom in the airport through us lol even there all Army and police waa us, anyway BYE i have nothing against you miskiin Eelay folks but dont ever chat sh1t about us HG again as we have been putting your folks down like dogs for the past 30 even baidoa was under our gumeysi for 4 YEARS until the Xabashis came for your support.

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Like i said HG xoog bu uu jooga not baryo, so Enjoy this Video your Mirifle cousins are crying about HG who have liberated and control Baraawe since 90's Masha'Allahi Allahu uu dhoowri
https://fb.watch/3ec-irb7nN/
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Re: Lower Shabelle and Banadir should form the 6th and final state

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You're proving my point for me and you don't even see it. You went from Indhacadde and Cirfo oo meesha hoog aan ku heysanaa to we have deputy seats and we have cops. The mighty really have fallen. Habar Gedir have had the biggest falling off in the last 15 years. Build up GalMudug, Shabeele Hoose isn't yours.
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Re: Lower Shabelle and Banadir should form the 6th and final state

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Shirib what should be done about Banadir region if another city replaces Mogadishu as the seat of all 3 branches of the federal regime
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Digil and Mirifle are one of the best Somalis around. Glad we share borders with them. Peace loving people
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Kees70 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:44 am Kkkk Sxb iska aamus you are very clueless indeed,ninkan Taliyaha (GorGor) hoose yuu ku dhilin with your miskiin talk,

even in your Capital Baraawe The Gole Deegan is us, and when you come here you have to go Custom in the airport through us lol even there all Army and police waa us, anyway BYE i have nothing against you miskiin Eelay folks but dont ever chat sh1t about us HG again as we have been putting your folks down like dogs for the past 30 even baidoa was under our gumeysi for 4 YEARS until the Xabashis came for your support.

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Like i said HG xoog bu uu jooga not baryo, so Enjoy this Video your Mirifle cousins are crying about HG who have liberated and control Baraawe since 90's Masha'Allahi Allahu uu dhoowri
https://fb.watch/3ec-irb7nN/
What crimes have 'miskiin Eelay' done to you for putting them 'down like dogs for the past 30', and why did you 'gumeysi for 4 YEARS' Baidoa?
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Re: Lower Shabelle and Banadir should form the 6th and final state

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paperino wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:41 pm
Kees70 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:44 am Kkkk Sxb iska aamus you are very clueless indeed,ninkan Taliyaha (GorGor) hoose yuu ku dhilin with your miskiin talk,

even in your Capital Baraawe The Gole Deegan is us, and when you come here you have to go Custom in the airport through us lol even there all Army and police waa us, anyway BYE i have nothing against you miskiin Eelay folks but dont ever chat sh1t about us HG again as we have been putting your folks down like dogs for the past 30 even baidoa was under our gumeysi for 4 YEARS until the Xabashis came for your support.

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Like i said HG xoog bu uu jooga not baryo, so Enjoy this Video your Mirifle cousins are crying about HG who have liberated and control Baraawe since 90's Masha'Allahi Allahu uu dhoowri
https://fb.watch/3ec-irb7nN/
What crimes have 'miskiin Eelay' done to you for putting them 'down like dogs for the past 30', and why did you 'gumeysi for 4 YEARS' Baidoa?
And he is a refugee somewhere in Europe. I will gladly put a bullet to anyone with such backward mentality even if he is my own cousin. Its f%%% 2021!!
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XimanJaale wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:30 pm Digil and Mirifle are one of the best Somalis around. Glad we share borders with them. Peace loving people
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Re: Lower Shabelle and Banadir should form the 6th and final state

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Lower Shabelle is a samaale region with a Digil minority if we exclude Garre who r pro Samaale. main conflict is between HG and Biimaale, shanta caleemo vs Gaaljecel that tells you much. reason why the governor is always garre has to do with their Samaale connections and raxwanyn supporting theur jiido rivals in qoryooley hawadle are third in qoryooley. i support HG migration to lower shabelle for farms for grazing, and pasture lands and actually most of these guys are our next door habar aji ceyr i hope the rest join them in the future :lol:

tolka maaha inay daaq isku dilaan when we have paradise lowershabelle

but i like lower shabelle to be part of KG and Samaale getting the vice president. i dont want to share state with this messed up province.
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Re: Lower Shabelle and Banadir should form the 6th and final state

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Anybody who uses the world "Samaale" about the Lower Shabelle exposes their ignorance and/or fragile political objectives.

Outside of basic, rudimentary introduction to Somalia simplyfing two generalized major cultural groups;
  1. Samaale are the Maxa Tiri speaking Nomads
  2. Reewin are the May speaking Agro- pastoralists
The only place in Somalia the word "Samaale" is even nominally relevant is Hiiraan and only really precariously because of the intra-group identity question surrounding Xawaadle and Saransoor caucusing with Hawiye while being in a state of incomplete assimilation. And Samaale even then is only even plausible as relevant identity group when there is compare/contrastt between the Hawiye nomadic caucus, the Shiidle/Makane Somali Bantu caucus, and the Reewin agro-pastoralist May Caucus in the greater Hiiraan region.

North of Hiiraan to Awdal, there is almost complete homogeneity of Nomadic Maxa Tiri Speaking so there is no existence of something called Samaale. That's why no one has even heard of the name. In that landscape, from Mudug to Bari to Waqooyi, the relevant identities divide into Xeeb (fisheries and sheep) and Interior (camels and goats)

In Jubbaland, due to heavy migration history, the relevant identities divide into Guri/Waamo (older/integrated) and Galti/Soo Galooti/Xabadi Keento (recent/fresh/incompletely integrated).

In Lower Shabeelle, and really much of the area between the Benadir ports and the Interior, the relevant identity is Shan Gamaas.

I will just leave this here about what I have said about Shan Gamaas before
Digil are Garre, are Galadi, are Bagadi, are Shanta Caleemo, and are Tuuni WHO THEMSELVES ARE SHAN GAMAAS ALSO KNOWN AS REER BARAAWE.

Wacdaan for example is completely assimilated to such a degree, I would imagine an average Samaale from Gaalkacyo or Hargeisa or Goday would have difficulty understanding where Wacdaan stops and Geledi (Digil with Tunni base) begins. Similar with Moobileen + Abgaal/Wacbuudhan (Especially Celi Cumar and Reer Mataan) + Udeejeen are on a gradient reflecting their nown heavy influence from Digil and Tunni Shan Gamaas cultural assimilation.

Besides the Mudulood, FROM BAJUUN TO SHEEKHAAL GENDERSHE TO BIYAMAAL MARKOOD TO THE BEND IN THE SHABELLE RIVER AT MAHADAAY WEYN WHERE SHIIDLE SIT..... that entire stretch of coastal seaboard called the former "Benadir" is all assimilated themselves to the Digil/Tunni/Shan Gamaas culture.

Even the most pure Arab Benadiri of Xamar as "Gibil cad" or the to the most recent pure Somali Bantu Mushunguli as "Gibil madoow" is under this culture.
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Re: Lower Shabelle and Banadir should form the 6th and final state

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Sorry darbiga la hadal we dont take our history from the enemies who love to divide us and are scared of our absolute majority in the Somaale peninsula. If Samaale does not exist than Daarood does not exist. Garre were part of USC bc of their Samaaleness and closeness to Gaaljecel as camel herders we even have hawadle in them around afgooye who pay qaaraan with them same as garjente gardheere who live with them in north of afgooye but now regrouoing with Gaaljecel. we have geedi madaxweyne and axmed madaxweyne brothees of Ali madaxweye living around balidoogle and walaweyne same way we have miinlaawe xawaadle in xawaadley and basra living with moobileen cusmaan. these guys are one of them. there is reason why Mogadishu alweys appoints garre governor for lowershabelle(btw the two garre in kenya/ethiopia and lower shabelle are not the same the later speaks lahjad beteeen digil and gugundhabe. digil is very close to banaadiri lahjad every obe can understand this means they are geeleey who adopted the local dilect same aa biimaal speaks af jareer.)

4.5 caused big problem for garre i even saw their papers at the UN claiming be Samaale not D&M
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garre


GFOH with your BS nomadic group. Samaale is the reason why your mooge sided with eritrea against Djibouti
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