Kenya's Watergate: Ahmed Madoobe only PURPOSE is Kismaayo port for KDF generals illegal sugar smuggling "Mumia's Sugar"
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Kenya's Watergate: Ahmed Madoobe only PURPOSE is Kismaayo port for KDF generals illegal sugar smuggling "Mumia's Sugar"
My God---this is some typical, petty central Africa-esque type of shenanigans. It just HAD to be the Kenya Defense Forces out of all AMISOM forces didn't it involved in this street-corruption type of nonsense
Re: Kenya's Watergate: Ahmed Madoobe only PURPOSE is Kismaayo port for KDF generals illegal sugar smuggling "Mumia's Sug
Kenya really needs reform. Look at all the responders talking about this random "new" Sugar brand that has started showing up in Kenyan grocery stores in the last some years and "displaced" all other long-existing sugar brands.
Turns out the contraband "Brazilian" sugar is brought in through Kismaayo port and smuggled through to Kenya and Kenya government through partnership between the highest generals and a "Karangi" who seems to be an influential free floater in all Kenyan governments have made this possible----only after getting their "cut."
Ahmed Madoobe's only relevance has been thr convenient, puppet plant used to make sure Kismaayo port was all theirs since he only coveted the legitimacy of their support to "sit" in Kismaayo. You cannot make this more despicable.
Turns out the contraband "Brazilian" sugar is brought in through Kismaayo port and smuggled through to Kenya and Kenya government through partnership between the highest generals and a "Karangi" who seems to be an influential free floater in all Kenyan governments have made this possible----only after getting their "cut."
Ahmed Madoobe's only relevance has been thr convenient, puppet plant used to make sure Kismaayo port was all theirs since he only coveted the legitimacy of their support to "sit" in Kismaayo. You cannot make this more despicable.

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Re: Kenya's Watergate: Ahmed Madoobe only PURPOSE is Kismaayo port for KDF generals illegal sugar smuggling "Mumia's Sug
KI should also add the Uhuru gov has known about this and did not do anything unless Elham is going to expose their connection to it. This is meant to give Ruto the power to clean house.
Re: Kenya's Watergate: Ahmed Madoobe only PURPOSE is Kismaayo port for KDF generals illegal sugar smuggling "Mumia's Sug
Gubbet,
Tbh we need to stop talking about Madoobe as long as KDF is there. As long as Kenya is there he’ll be there, and the more we talk about that the more we look like people whining about a situation we can’t change.
This is also why I laugh when people say Kenya will abandon Madoobe because they had a change in leadership. Why would Ruto work to remove what for all intents and purposes is a NFD Governor on Somali soil? Regardless of some European court ruling about the Sea, Kenya’s land border with Somalia is Kismaayo not Lamu/Raskambooni.
Tbh we need to stop talking about Madoobe as long as KDF is there. As long as Kenya is there he’ll be there, and the more we talk about that the more we look like people whining about a situation we can’t change.
This is also why I laugh when people say Kenya will abandon Madoobe because they had a change in leadership. Why would Ruto work to remove what for all intents and purposes is a NFD Governor on Somali soil? Regardless of some European court ruling about the Sea, Kenya’s land border with Somalia is Kismaayo not Lamu/Raskambooni.
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Re: Kenya's Watergate: Ahmed Madoobe only PURPOSE is Kismaayo port for KDF generals illegal sugar smuggling "Mumia's Sug
You’re right. The difference is this. When you can afford to chill. When you have time. You don’t worry. Alx, it was a costal and historic lesson. For now it’s okay. It’s a slap that’s well deserved. Lagos, remember who God is:Murax wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:24 pm Gubbet,
Tbh we need to stop talking about Madoobe as long as KDF is there. As long as Kenya is there he’ll be there, and the more we talk about that the more we look like people whining about a situation we can’t change.
This is also why I laugh when people say Kenya will abandon Madoobe because they had a change in leadership. Why would Ruto work to remove what for all intents and purposes is a NFD Governor on Somali soil? Regardless of some European court ruling about the Sea, Kenya’s land border with Somalia is Kismaayo not Lamu/Raskambooni.
Re: Kenya's Watergate: Ahmed Madoobe only PURPOSE is Kismaayo port for KDF generals illegal sugar smuggling "Mumia's Sug
Laangaabs still whining about Ahmed-madoobe.
Kismaayo and Jubbaland has long moved on.
Kismaayo and Jubbaland has long moved on.
Re: Kenya's Watergate: Ahmed Madoobe only PURPOSE is Kismaayo port for KDF generals illegal sugar smuggling "Mumia's Sug
jubaland need to ve freed. from ecologic war. freedom from kenya
Re: Kenya's Watergate: Ahmed Madoobe only PURPOSE is Kismaayo port for KDF generals illegal sugar smuggling "Mumia's Sug
Can I ask why for sometime now you are interested in shutting down any discussion of Madoobe's problematic continued nuisance in Jubbaland?Murax wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:24 pm Gubbet,
Tbh we need to stop talking about Madoobe as long as KDF is there. As long as Kenya is there he’ll be there, and the more we talk about that the more we look like people whining about a situation we can’t change.
This is also why I laugh when people say Kenya will abandon Madoobe because they had a change in leadership. Why would Ruto work to remove what for all intents and purposes is a NFD Governor on Somali soil? Regardless of some European court ruling about the Sea, Kenya’s land border with Somalia is Kismaayo not Lamu/Raskambooni.
Really bro---that's all you seem to do.
I don't care if Madoobe is not going to be "gone" as a result of discussion concerning his negative continued presence.
Yet, you seem to be using that as a crutch to shut down any and all discussion. It is a pattern man.
No, I am not going to "stop" talking about Madoobe. Madoobe is focking nuisance that should have had an "end" in Somali/Jubbaland politics a long time ago.
Yes, the 10 year sea case was a subversive attack using Madoobe as a hired plant to such an extent I am positive we do not know the extent of foul play. For example, there are things I am not at liberty to say just yet but will showcase themselve implicating an entire nexus of entities outside Somalia.
Even so, no I will not stop "talking" about Madoobe and truly I am both shocked and bewildered that you would even say that. Who cares if nobodies think this is whining?
There were people fighting Siad for the entire 21 years. There were Dervishes fighting the British close to 30 years. There were anti-colonists fighting colonialism their whole life. Ceelbuur has been under Shabaab far longer than KDF or Madoobe have been in Kismaayo. Rer Hassan fought for Deka Suftu for 20 years. Wagardhac has been fighting for Gelinsoor grazing for 25 years. Bah Hawiye are still fighting to get back to Ceel-Gaab and parts of Shilaabo since 1982.
No, I will not stop talking about Madoobe and I certainly will not stop talking about the negative subversion that even makes his nuisance possible.
I am extremely disappointed that you would even say that.
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Re: Kenya's Watergate: Ahmed Madoobe only PURPOSE is Kismaayo port for KDF generals illegal sugar smuggling "Mumia's Sug
Warkaagu meel buu iigu qoran yahay. Gen Buhuka aan wadankaan ka saaro---walle iyo bille warkaagaan adigu laftaadaan ku hor dhigi doonaaye. XAARE orad kaabaha u qaad Bahuka wax kalaad meesha ku haysid majirtee.balwarama wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:48 am Laangaabs still whining about Ahmed-madoobe.
Kismaayo and Jubbaland has long moved on.
Re: Kenya's Watergate: Ahmed Madoobe only PURPOSE is Kismaayo port for KDF generals illegal sugar smuggling "Mumia's Sug
Gubbet wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:00 amCan I ask why for sometime now you are interested in shutting down any discussion of Madoobe's problematic continued nuisance in Jubbaland?Murax wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:24 pm Gubbet,
Tbh we need to stop talking about Madoobe as long as KDF is there. As long as Kenya is there he’ll be there, and the more we talk about that the more we look like people whining about a situation we can’t change.
This is also why I laugh when people say Kenya will abandon Madoobe because they had a change in leadership. Why would Ruto work to remove what for all intents and purposes is a NFD Governor on Somali soil? Regardless of some European court ruling about the Sea, Kenya’s land border with Somalia is Kismaayo not Lamu/Raskambooni.
Really bro---that's all you seem to do.
I don't care if Madoobe is not going to be "gone" as a result of discussion concerning his negative continued presence.
Yet, you seem to be using that as a crutch to shut down any and all discussion. It is a pattern man.
No, I am not going to "stop" talking about Madoobe. Madoobe is focking nuisance that should have had an "end" in Somali/Jubbaland politics a long time ago.
Yes, the 10 year sea case was a subversive attack using Madoobe as a hired plant to such an extent I am positive we do not know the extent of foul play. For example, there are things I am not at liberty to say just yet but will showcase themselve implicating an entire nexus of entities outside Somalia.
Even so, no I will not stop "talking" about Madoobe and truly I am both shocked and bewildered that you would even say that. Who cares if nobodies think this is whining?
There were people fighting Siad for the entire 21 years. There were Dervishes fighting the British close to 30 years. There were anti-colonists fighting colonialism their whole life. Ceelbuur has been under Shabaab far longer than KDF or Madoobe have been in Kismaayo. Rer Hassan fought for Deka Suftu for 20 years. Wagardhac has been fighting for Gelinsoor grazing for 25 years. Bah Hawiye are still fighting to get back to Ceel-Gaab and parts of Shilaabo since 1982.
No, I will not stop talking about Madoobe and I certainly will not stop talking about the negative subversion that even makes his nuisance possible.
I am extremely disappointed that you would even say that.
Gubbet,
Because by constantly bringing him up you are attaching undue influence, power to a small little token figure who’s presence is a distraction to what the real issue is, which is Kenya’s complete annexation of a major Somali town. It’s like someone constantly complaining about their constant needing to piss, skin infections when the underlying cause is their high blood sugar due to diabetes. In the Kismaayo case Kenya! Even in that case I might look the other way if the person is stubborn, and also because everyone’s their own individual. Yet in this case I’m Marexaan, and by you constantly referencing a tiny object of Kenya’s overall Foreign policy, you are creating the narrative that he or his clan took something from Marexaan which is not only false but insulting. I have no idea why you don’t get this.
Better topic would be discussing what kind of pressure could be put on Kenya themselves to disengage from their occupation objectives in Somalia.
Re: Kenya's Watergate: Ahmed Madoobe only PURPOSE is Kismaayo port for KDF generals illegal sugar smuggling "Mumia's Sug
I disagree entirely with your opinion. And frankly, I will not self-censor for any perception. This is one part of the online public marketplace of ideas and whatever information is drafted implicating Madoobe's negative subversive presence is public bulletin information that floats out there into the ether. It doesn't even matter if he has already left---information should still be shared that sheds any light on his ugly imposition in Somalia/Jubbaland affairs.
Now I respect you a lot, so please let's just agree to disagree on this matter.
Now I respect you a lot, so please let's just agree to disagree on this matter.
Re: Kenya's Watergate: Ahmed Madoobe only PURPOSE is Kismaayo port for KDF generals illegal sugar smuggling "Mumia's Sug
Gubbet wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:46 am I disagree entirely with your opinion. And frankly, I will not self-censor for any perception. This is one part of the online public marketplace of ideas and whatever information is drafted implicating Madoobe's negative subversive presence is public bulletin information that floats out there into the ether. It doesn't even matter if he has already left---information should still be shared that sheds any light on his ugly imposition in Somalia/Jubbaland affairs.
Now I respect you a lot, so please let's just agree to disagree on this matter.
As do I, Kheyr Inadeer
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Re: Kenya's Watergate: Ahmed Madoobe only PURPOSE is Kismaayo port for KDF generals illegal sugar smuggling "Mumia's Sug
@Gubbet perhaps you should bring the thousands of Ethiopan soldiers in Gedo to liberate Kismaayo for you. 
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Re: Kenya's Watergate: Ahmed Madoobe only PURPOSE is Kismaayo port for KDF generals illegal sugar smuggling "Mumia's Sug
When I say Somalis Will never have a unified powerful state , dooros in jubaland are good example. Hadaad cagdheer iyo ilka dheer ba aad waydiiso waar horta maxaad isku haysan xitaa kama jawaabi karaan. Xin iyo xasarad bay isku hayaan. Daarod Ku waa waslad xaaraana oo soomali lagu soo dhex tuuray.
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