Guul G36 ama Gacan Libaax

[Jabuutawi]

Listen, I have no hate for Isaaq, au contraire. My thread is praising the most landheere and most noble of the Isaaqs, the true torchbearers of Sh. Isaaq, the Habar Yonis. How then did some of you non-Habar Yonis come to the wrong conclusion bewilders me.

Some of you come in here and portray a facade, an illusion of cohesion among yourselves, when, in reality, you are divided along clan lines. In Hargaysa I am being told you do not mix. That is the supposed capital of a budding nation. The hate is palpable.

How divided are you? Watch this video by Liban Samatalis:



Ileen Reer Samatar wa langaab.

Yusuf: What do you know about Yonis Muse? We are the largest branch, in fact, my sub-branch alone is divided into 12 branches, and that is one of many Yonis Muse branches. That said, we are the ones keeping IOG in power, truth be told  :) . A subclan that big is bound to have differing opinions. Khadra, a woman, has nothing to do with this matter. She goes along with what her husband does. To me, the schism between IOG is beyond sub-clan pettiness. It is much deeper, it is personal.

Gubbet, my man, it is not about Zaylac. Duuqa magaalada qadiimiga ah Zaylac waa nin Ciise oo siba Yonis Muse. We have Zaylac on lock. Historically, Ciise camels used to graze all the way to the outskirts of Berbera. It is unfortunate since Djibouti's independence many sub-clans vacated their ancestral territories, hence, today, you see every Ciise town and village contested in northern Somalia. Censuses from the 1930s-50s showed Ciise population was on par with Dhulbahante and much bigger than Gadabursi.

[theyuusuf143]

Yusuf: What do you know about Yonis Muse? We are the largest branch, in fact, my sub-branch alone is divided into 12 branches, and that is one of many Yonis Muse branches. That said, we are the ones keeping IOG in power, truth be told  :) . A subclan that big is bound to have differing opinions. Khadra, a woman, has nothing to do with this matter. She goes along with what her husband does. To me, the schism between IOG is beyond sub-clan pettiness. It is much deeper, it is personal.

Being large makes no sense , what matters is how you behave. You are blinded by hate. Because something is burning you inside. If you are laandheere Why would you hate few isaaq peaple minding their own business in djibouti , who are not even competing against you to rule the land. Bulshit you are not keeping geelle in office. Even your police chief turned traitor , and he is in jail today. You have been visiting this site for nearly a decade , and all Those years you always hated isaaq. Just because geelle's biitch is isaaq. I have never seen ciise kaa dhaqan xun, anaga ninkaa naagtiisa maxaa naga galay.

Miyaanu dhul kaa haysana , miyaanu dadkaaga dilnay, barakicinay ama boobnay , miyaanu hanti kaa qaadnay, ama aad xurmo darro nagala kulantay. Intaaas hadsysan midna jirin waxa noo kaa keena waa doqoonimo. Hooyada ilkaha dheer Ka wase , atleast reason noola imaw, all Somalis love ciise except gadabursi. Uurxumada kolay kuwaas baa Ku dhalay , dhaqan ciise malihide dhaqan gadabursi baad leedahay.

[Jabuutawi]

It is understandable that you are frustrated because almost all the casualty, death and injured, hail from your HJ clan. This week alone, 50 HJ injured were brought to the Sudanese built hospital in Djibouti. Tako tako baa ula socda warka Jabuuti. Teda kale kaama rabo in aad ansaxisid threadkayga. What Isaaq do I hate? Here I am devoting positively a whole thread to a subclan of Isaaq , so where is the hate? War ma ana walan mise Cadan ba laga heesiya.

I thought HJ were smarter than this. You are being used as cannon fodder by the juufo that runs the Jeegan. You fail to see that because of your hate for Dhulbahante. Dadkaaga baraarooji sida Habar Yonis. I doubt there are that many HY left in Goojacade.

Yes, there is no 'beef' between Yonis Mouse and HJ. In fact, no beef between Ciise and HJ. You are just a collateral damage because futada baa ugu jirtaan kuwa mamuula Jeeganta. You are their lapdogs, nothing more, nothing less.

FYI: Hooyade waa Ciise siba kuwa xaq ahaan sheegta Jabuuti iyo nawaxigeyga. 100% Ciise Ciise dhalay.

Ex-chief of police is Hawlaqaade, 2nd son of Ciise. I am Celeeye, 1st son of Ciise, so is IOG .

[theyuusuf143]

Astaamaha cadawga isaaq lagu garto bay Ka mid tahay inay habarjeclo wacdiyaan. Habarjecloy ilaahay Ka yaaba, waad dhimateen, dhaawaciinii meel heblaayo yuu yaala, waad hoogi doontan. Waxaas oo dhan waxay cadayn u Tahay inaanu cadawga caqabad weyn Ku Nahay. Sacad muuse na waxa isaaq loogu sii neceb yahay bay qabaan. Waa karti iyo raganimo ay muujiyeen.

[mahoka]

Astaamaha cadawga isaaq lagu garto bay Ka mid tahay inay habarjeclo wacdiyaan. Habarjecloy ilaahay Ka yaaba, waad dhimateen, dhaawaciinii meel heblaayo yuu yaala, waad hoogi doontan. Waxaas oo dhan waxay cadayn u Tahay inaanu cadawga caqabad weyn Ku Nahay. Sacad muuse na waxa isaaq loogu sii neceb yahay bay qabaan. Waa karti iyo raganimo ay muujiyeen.

You don’t speak for isaaq. As you said, langaab ciise is literally your irir ally

Your allies are not fond of you. Lol

[mahoka]

As for isaaq/ciise/zaylac


Isaaq doesn’t know ciise, most isaaq has no clue about ciise or samaroon - this is why the Yusuf (a fanatical supporter of the ruling mafia in hargeisa) believes that he is culturally and socially similar to ciise (who are foreign culturally to him like the oromo) are his irir allies because of the dhulo situation


Zaylac is habar magaadle property - for 200 years it was ruled by a hy suldan and for the last 120 years it has been pretty much administrated by habar awal. When ciise with French help were trying to take over zaylac we all know what happened via the sacad muse snm factions. Zaylac is a beating stick for our dir colleagues - if ciise acts up a samaroon will be installed as mayor, if samaroon act up a ciise horgal will be installed to sjw them behave. This is the simple truth today.



Jiboutawi is an Ethiopian fella and has no stake in Djibouti which is ran by different ciise clans - not even sure why he calls himself jibiutawi lol - he is angry IOG has pretty much abandoned the Ethiopian ciise.


Our colleague jabutaawi shouldn’t be angry though, the hargeisa mafia is famously controlled by IOG - from the Yusuf’s heroes (cigaal and Muuse biixi lol) - the mafia and their supporters love those two mafia leaders

[mahoka]

Jabuutawi is right though, we must praise those who are rising up against the mafia in hargeisa. They used to shut us down using emotional and tribal arguments but it seems the youth wants change, no more ila meerayso going around in circles.

[theyuusuf143]

Atleast what I believe is backed by science. You at the other hand subscribe to arab fairytale. Ciise are not foreign to me , I see them as close relatives of isaaq. Siyaasad na waxba Ka garan mayside stick to what you now. Meesha zaylac inaku ma Lihin waa Dhul ciise , weligeed na sacad muuse kama talin. Marka laga reebo last 5 years badhasaab Ku reer kiina ahaa. Anaguba 12 sano baanu custom ka lawyocado fadhina. Hadii dadka la boobayo. Meesha inoo qaybiya oo zaylac qaata anagana lawyocado baanu sheeganayna Kkkkkkkk. Shaqaale dawladeed hadii Dhul lagu qabsanayo waaba line qabaw.

[original dervish]

Anybody else notice how desperate TheYusef is to hold onto this irrirism nonsense?

Tyrant Bixi has already moved men and equipment from Goojacaade to bolster his position in the west.

I'm very confident the iidoors will be forced to withdraw from SSC by years end inshallah.

When the 3rd iidoor war breaks out, we should intervene to support whichever iidoor subclan is losing, in order to continue the war for as long as possible. We must bleed the iidoor white.

[Gubbet]

As for isaaq/ciise/zaylac


Isaaq doesn’t know ciise, most isaaq has no clue about ciise or samaroon - this is why the Yusuf (a fanatical supporter of the ruling mafia in hargeisa) believes that he is culturally and socially similar to ciise (who are foreign culturally to him like the oromo) are his irir allies because of the dhulo situation


Zaylac is habar magaadle property - for 200 years it was ruled by a hy suldan and for the last 120 years it has been pretty much administrated by habar awal. When ciise with French help were trying to take over zaylac we all know what happened via the sacad muse snm factions. Zaylac is a beating stick for our dir colleagues - if ciise acts up a samaroon will be installed as mayor, if samaroon act up a ciise horgal will be installed to sjw them behave. This is the simple truth today.



Jiboutawi is an Ethiopian fella and has no stake in Djibouti which is ran by different ciise clans - not even sure why he calls himself jibiutawi lol - he is angry IOG has pretty much abandoned the Ethiopian ciise.


Our colleague jabutaawi shouldn’t be angry though, the hargeisa mafia is famously controlled by IOG - from the Yusuf’s heroes (cigaal and Muuse biixi lol) - the mafia and their supporters love those two mafia leaders

Mahoka, I oppose the Dhulbahante attack and have never apologized for it or minced my words. In fact I have gone out of my way to own it and say Muuse', s back must be broken.

With that said have I been unfair to Isaaq? Have I lied about them? Do I disparage them? It is even ironic that given my stance on Las Anod, it could even be said just the opposite that I not only not disparage but I affirm them.

You are Isaaq/Sacad Muuse and Nuux Ismaaciil. It is amazing that Yuusud still doesn't get or is trying ro ignore the fact that IN THIS VERY TOPIC you and Jabuutaawi are EXACTLY him and Old Dervish.

He wants everyone to be quiet and invested in his war with OD when Jabuutaawi and Mohoka are the same as they are!

With that said,

There is a reason you are using Zaylac as a "stick" against Ciise where when you are "displeased" with Ciise you five the mayor to another Dir as you said in Samaroom.

Because Zaylac is not yours. Can anyone just give Berbera away from Ciise Muuse or Gebiley from Jibril Abokor?

Haji Shermaarke was like Siad Barre in Mogadishu who ruled for 21 years. Does that mean Mogadishu is Marehan or Darod? Even before Haji Shermarke, Abubakar the wily Afar was ruling Zaylac.

Zaylac the inner town once again was like Harar, a cosmopolitan diverse port who was principally in the hands of whatever Muslim empire at that time had control of the Seyyidis of Mecca. Haji Shermaarke, Abubakar the Afar were self made individual men who were ensconced in the Turkis Ottoman/Seyyidi Yememi, Egyptian Khedives that would be intertwined having nominal suzerainty over Zaylac the inner town's administration.

But Zaylac the region, the countryside, the nomadic population who "owned" the territory, the bringers of milk and meat to town who formed the bade of even the town's habitation was CIISE.

Nuux Ismaaciil of Sacad forever resentful of Berbera's Ciise Muuse monopolization were forever scheming against Ciise and Zaylac and the length and nature of your conflict is well established historically including the fact that Zaylac continued to be principally a deegasn of Ciise until colonialism and the calamity that happened to Ciise being divided by French Djbouti and British Somaliland.

[Gubbet]

Anybody else notice how desperate TheYusef is to hold onto this irrirism nonsense?

Tyrant Bixi has already moved men and equipment from Goojacaade to bolster his position in the west.

I'm very confident the iidoors will be forced to withdraw from SSC by years end inshallah.

When the 3rd iidoor war breaks out, we should intervene to support whichever iidoor subclan is losing, in order to continue the war for as long as possible. We must bleed the iidoor white.

Ironically Yuusuf baa ugu wanaagsan reerkiisa. Yusuf has a Jin obsessed with Dhulbahante that makes him lose all reason and logic as all Somalis are want to do when it comes to their immediate neighbor and blood feuds, but Yusuf is million times closer to cadaalad than say a Mohoka or even Skywalker. Aakhirkhana u daawo he will end up making the hard won peace with you.

Yusuf waa bastard, but he is an honorable bastard.

His confusion about what he calls Jabuutaawi's "hate" is genuine, he is taken back but that's because Yusuf may not have been cognizant that Jabuutaawi is less motivated against him and more motivated against Mahoka something I contextualized even before Mahoka the Nuux Ismaaciil came and proved me correct!

[Sauron]

It's funny watching all of these cockroaches come out of their hiding nest at the slightest inconvenience of Somalilands political spectrum.

The way these guys are sucking off Garxajis is embarrassing and out right whore-ish dhaqan. opening their legs wide open for that garxajis ceeb.

Only a delusional ciise waraabe the vampire could write such statement after he's been karbashed so many times and at the hands of HY nonetheless, now he's claiming that he's somehow related to them through hablogroups dna bs hahaha

When you're that powerless it's only logical that you support inner Isaaq conflicts since you can never face us, but even divided you will never have the balls to start anything in Zaylac, I dare you my vampire friend.

Too many people on here especially the faqash write fanficitons wishing the demise of my people, We see you, Alxamdulillah that's the extent of your capability against the DURIYADA, a mere habaar 24/7.

Gun yahay guntu dhashay

[gobdoon]

It's funny watching all of these cockroaches come out of their hiding nest at the slightest inconvenience of Somalilands political spectrum.

The way these guys are sucking off Garxajis is embarrassing and out right whore-ish dhaqan. opening their legs wide open for that garxajis ceeb.

Only a delusional ciise waraabe the vampire could write such statement after he's been karbashed so many times and at the hands of HY nonetheless, now he's claiming that he's somehow related to them through hablogroups dna bs hahaha

When you're that powerless it's only logical that you support inner Isaaq conflicts since you can never face us, but even divided you will never have the balls to start anything in Zaylac, I dare you my vampire friend.

Too many people on here especially the faqash write fanficitons wishing the demise of my people, We see you, Alxamdulillah that's the extent of your capability against the DURIYADA, a mere habaar 24/7.

Gun yahay guntu dhashay

Stop crying you whoring bitch

[theyuusuf143]

Anybody else notice how desperate TheYusef is to hold onto this irrirism nonsense?

Tyrant Bixi has already moved men and equipment from Goojacaade to bolster his position in the west.

I'm very confident the iidoors will be forced to withdraw from SSC by years end inshallah.

When the 3rd iidoor war breaks out, we should intervene to support whichever iidoor subclan is losing, in order to continue the war for as long as possible. We must bleed the iidoor white.

Ironically Yuusuf baa ugu wanaagsan reerkiisa. Yusuf has a Jin obsessed with Dhulbahante that makes him lose all reason and logic as all Somalis are want to do when it comes to their immediate neighbor and blood feuds, but Yusuf is million times closer to cadaalad than say a Mohoka or even Skywalker. Aakhirkhana u daawo he will end up making the hard won peace with you.

Yusuf waa bastard, but he is an honorable bastard.

His confusion about what he calls Jabuutaawi's "hate" is genuine, he is taken back but that's because Yusuf may not have been cognizant that Jabuutaawi is less motivated against him and more motivated against Mahoka something I contextualized even before Mahoka the Nuux Ismaaciil came and proved me correct!

I understand why OD is very uncomfortable with my Irirism. He must have realised that it actually works effectively against all his wishes.

Gubbet Before the war started , I suggested that dhulbahante must meet us (HJ) first to demarcate our clan borders. They didn't. That's when we have decided to karbaash them in their own home. It's not obsession it's PREVENTATION , both dhulmahante and dhabayaco have clear plans to attack our land. The conflict between us and dhulbahante is very understandable. And it existed for centuries . How can you trust a man like garaad jaamac, who vowed to kill our children. I think you have seen this clip


Unlike Ethiopia , in djibouti isaaq is isaaq ma jirto habar gaara oo degta. We are minority in that country and has no rural population , so if jabuutaawi Gets the chance he won't spare me too, so why would assume he only dislikes mohoka. That's not how things work in djibouti. We are one single isaaq unit.

Jabuutaawi waxan leeyahay majority rules and minority has rights . Anagu rights kayagii waa Ka faa,iidaysanay oo isaaqu lacag badan oo xalaala way Ka shaqaysten djibouti Laakiin adigu rule kii hadaad Ismacii Ka qaadan Kari wayday, waxad isaaq ugu qadhqadha waa gardaro. It's like garxajis oo yidhaahda muuse biixi ciise baa la shaqaysta ee aynu ciisaha somaliland Ka saarno.

[Gubbet]

Niyo anigu sideeda I do not get into and I absolutely am against anything to do with or implicating individual rights let alone concerning civilians. To my knowledge Jabuutaawi has not once remarked about Isaaq civilians in Djibouti in this topic. It seems to be so far something referenced by you alone and truthfully concerning my observation you are genuine in being taken back, your fears are not without basis is the implication. In my opinion Jabuutaawi should have immediately clarified that fear as unfounded and even stated it as a distractive spoil if his intentions were mischaracterized. In the amount of times you have brought up the unfortunate Xeraale war between Marehan Caabudwaaq and their Surre neighbors, not only did I not go down the path of evincing ill will towards Dir civilians but even explicitly affirmed them time and again internalizing their right to humanity. These abstract issues regarding community equity as one sees should always be separated from if not even directly disentangled from rights due to individuals and even stated in opposition to things like crimes against civilians or depriving citizens of human rights regardless of where they are at or settled.

As for the Garaad Jaamac, I do not expect you to be fair towards him as he is the impetus that has destroyed Muuse's ludicrous attempt at subjugation, but in all fairness I see the Garaad as the last man capable of injustice and in fact contextualize his statement as "hyperbole." I am so hungry, I could eat a horse does not in fact actually mean you would eat or a horse or even countenance it.