This is the land Italy found when it landed on Somali soil. Somalis have warred for 80 years to get back to it.

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This is the land Italy found when it landed on Somali soil. Somalis have warred for 80 years to get back to it.

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There are 3 duos of 2 that will be important to understand before the Somali civil war ends which most likely will not end during our lifetimes;

1. Conflict of Ego vs Conflict of Equity.
2. Gelinsoor & Barawe
3. Grazing vs Soil

I will remark on these 3 duos at a different point.

Everything they tell you about the Somali civil war is a lie. Everything they understand about the Somali civil war is a lie. Somalis themselves, including our parents born within this storyline, substantively misunderstand or are sadly misinformed about why their own country and culture is is so uniquely failed as a state relative to every other single nation-state on earth. I am talking even our post-colonial Somali scholars & academics. If they were not merely "sophists" for their own in-group/factional grievances within this storyline line were simply "regurgitating" what was being "observed" ala IM Lewis style without necessarily critiquing the observation. In fact, critical assessment or critical theory is not merely just "practically absent" but is altogether "non-existent" in Somali studies. Even what has been provided as "criticism is in itself just a function of informing that there are grievances (or more than one) within the observations or assumed observations. The observations are never a subject of criticism which brings even the grievances under crtical analysis.

The equator, sun, climate, aridity, animal husbandry, pastoralism, a coast, Black Africa, Islam, eastern culture, honor society, even Black skin with aquiline nose is the physical, cultural, sociological, spiritual, geographical, and economical testaments that the Somali people are truly a uniquely formed part of the human race who may (and in fact are) probably an outliar to the given normal human expectation of "nation-state business "

Those 3 duos are important as things that will inevitably be very important to the conclusion of Somalia'a civil war.


Disclaimer: Harti lands in former British Somaliland have been included in this dispensation since they led 2 wars to be implicated with their Darod kin in the lands Italy took. In 1920 they were unsuccessful, but in 2023 they were successful.
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Re: This is the land Italy found when it landed on Somali soil. Somalis have warred for 80 years to get back to it.

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It is moments like these with central Somalia (Gelinsoor) taking up so much attention due to the entrenched brutality and viciousness of the cyclical clashes of revenge that I want to finally finish this topic...

...after having explicitly decided not to.
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Re: This is the land Italy found when it landed on Somali soil. Somalis have warred for 80 years to get back to it.

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Allaaw maxeey wax muuqdaan.
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Re: This is the land Italy found when it landed on Somali soil. Somalis have warred for 80 years to get back to it.

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Italy never had any meaningful influence in Somalia outside their plantations at the banks of juba and shabeele rivers. They had no control over galgaduud all the way to bari. They just had a shaky
arrangements with the local leaders and even those leaders didn't give a shiitt of any of the treatments they signed with the Italians. If the Italian have nothing to offer they used to turn against him. Kenadiid did , the mad mullah did some other warlords like omar samatar also turned against Italy . All of them collaborated with Italians and fought against them at the same time. And most of the time it had something to do with politics or financial transactions , the Italians didn't care this burren land that much.


The real struggle happened In the South, because the Italians inslaved the bantus and other Somalis around the rivers. That's why the Bantu struggle led by nasiib bundo and the biimaal revolt were more extremely violent.
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