Virgins

[Biif Baaf]

Dawladsade a.k.a mini-warlord turned wadaad overnight:

Listen here pussycat, where is your proof for your assumptions about why 4 wives are permitted or why a wife can not refuse her husband's bed?

So, what will be your modern explanation as to why men who go on Jihad are permitted to have female slaves or wives if they are gone for more than 6 weeks? What about the fact that it is highly discouraged for a husband to travel for a long time (4 months) without once visiting his family?

You should stick to your usual threads regarding your clan & Hiiraale, because you obviously lack Islamic literature.

[Biif Baaf]

Mini-warlord/Dawladsade:

The wisdom behind permitting plural marriage:

1 – Plural marriage helps to increase the numbers of the ummah (nation, Muslim community). It is known that the numbers can only be increased through marriage, and the number of offspring gained through plural marriage will be greater than that achieved through marriage to one wife.

Wise people know that increasing the number of offspring will strengthen the ummah and increase the number of workers in it, which will raise its economic standard – if the leaders run the affairs of state well and make use of its resources in a proper manner. Ignore the claims of those who say that increasing the numbers of human beings poses a danger to the earth’s resources which are insufficient, for Allaah the Most Wise Who has prescribed plural marriage has guaranteed to provide provision for His slaves and has created on earth what is more than sufficient for them. Whatever shortfall exists is due to the injustice of administrations, governments and individuals, and due to bad management. Look at China, for example, the greatest nation on earth as far as number of inhabitants is concerned, and it is regarded as one of the strongest nations in the world, and other nations would think twice before upsetting China; it is also one of the great industrialized nations. Who would dare think of attacking China, I wonder? And why?

2 – Statistics show that the number of women is greater than the number of men; if each man were to marry just one woman, this would mean that some women would be left without a husband, which would have a harmful effect on her and on society:

The harmful effect is that she would never find a husband to take care of her interests, to give her a place to live, to spend on her, to protect her from haraam desires, and to give her children to bring her joy. This may lead to deviance and going astray, except for those on whom Allaah has mercy.

With regard to the harmful effects on society, it is well known that this woman who is left without a husband may deviate from the straight path and follow the ways of promiscuity, so she may fall into the swamp of adultery and prostitution – may Allaah keep us safe and sound – which leads to the spread of immorality and the emergence of fatal diseases such as AIDS and other contagious diseases for which there is no cure. It also leads to family breakdown and the birth of children whose identity is unknown, and who do not know who their fathers are.

Those children do not find anyone to show compassion towards them or any mature man to raise them properly. When they go out into the world and find out the truth, that they are illegitimate, that is reflected in their behaviour, and they become exposed to deviance and going astray. They may even bear grudges against society, and who knows? They may become the means of their country’s destruction, leaders of deviant gangs, as is the case in many nations in the world.

3 – Men are exposed to incidents that may end their lives, for they work in dangerous professions. They are the soldiers who fight in battle, and more men may die than women. This is one of the things that raise the percentage of husbandless women, and the only solution to this problem is plural marriage.

4 – There are some men who may have strong physical desires, for whom one wife is not enough. If the door is closed to such a man and he is told, you are not allowed more than one wife, this will cause great hardship to him, and his desire may find outlets in forbidden ways.

In addition to that, a woman menstruates each month, and when she gives birth, she bleeds for forty days (this post-partum bleeding is called nifaas in Arabic), at which time a man cannot have intercourse with his wife, because intercourse at the time of menstruation or nifaas is forbidden, and the harm that it causes has been proven medically. So plural marriage is permitted when one is able to be fair and just.
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Look very closely at #4, what do you see??

Source: http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=2 ... %20husband

[Biif Baaf]

Regarding A Woman Who Refuses Her Husband's Bed:

Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘If a man calls his wife to his bed and she refuses [and does not come], and he spends the night angry with her, the angels will curse her until morning.’” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 4794; the additional phrase quoted in square brackets is from Abu Dawood, al-Sunan, Kitaab al-Nikaah, Bab haqq al-zawj ‘ala’l-mar’ah).

Explanation/Logic Behind Why A Woman Should Not Refuse Her Husband's Bed:

The hadeeth also directs a wife to help her husband and seek his satisfaction, because a man is less patient than a woman when it comes to doing without intercourse. The most disturbing thing for a man is his sexual impulse, so Islam urges women to help their husbands in this regard. (Adapted and abbreviated from the commentary by al-Haafiz Ibn Hijr – may Allaah have mercy on him – on this hadeeth in Fath al-Baari).

Source: http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=2 ... %20husband

[Alchemist]

Virgin at heart

[shidow1]

I am not a virgin...........

[Biif Baaf]

Exceptions To A Wife Not Refusing Her Husband's Bed:

It is not permissible for a husband to force his wife to do more than she is able to bear of intercourse. If she has an excuse such as being sick or unable to bear it, then she is not sinning if she refuses to have intercourse.

The husband has the right to enjoy intimacy with his wife at any time… so long as he does not distract her from obligatory religious duties or harm her. In that case he does not have the right to intimacy with her without her permission, because that is contrary to the idea of reasonable and kind treatment. So long as he does not distract her from that and does not harm her, then he has the right to intimacy.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said:

The husband should have intercourse with his wife according to what satisfies her, so long as that does not harm him physically or keep him from earning a living; it is not limited to four months.

If they argue, then the judge should decide on the number of times, just as the judge should decide on the level of spending on a wife.

Al-Ikhtiyaaraat al-Fiqhiyyah, p. 246

The husband has to fear Allaah with regard to his wife, and not make her do more than she is able to do. He should be kind to his wife and treat her in a reasonable manner. If his desire is so strong that one wife is not enough for him, then why does he not try to look for a solution to this problem that is affecting his relationship with his wife, or which may lead to something even worse, which would be looking to satisfy his desire in haraam ways?

One of the solutions that would help to solve this problem is to take a second wife. Allaah has permitted men to marry up to four, on condition that he treat them all fairly. Another solution would be to fast a lot, because fasting reduces desire. And another solution would be to take medicine that will reduce his desire, subject to the condition that this will not cause him any harm.

And Allaah is the One Whom we ask to set the Muslims’ affairs straight.

And Allaah knows best.

Source: http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=9 ... %20husband

[Angelin@]

hmm This is fun I hadn't thoght about my first time with uhh... something huge, hot n hairy..* i am no virgin (n proud of it)*



Okay, so it was a drunken rendezvous influenced mostly by the fact that he was uncircumcised midle-aged whitey askari n I had a yet -undiscovered mililtary fetish


I am in that Dawlad has never used his Alaab! miskiin dude sHex is not a shex unless the penuth enters the Fashina..it can enter anywhere else but just don't let the alaab near the dirty hole or at least not for too long.. or atleast don't have an 'O' there ... or at least don't finish the big O there

[wStLdNthug]

WHERE DO I SIGN

XAMARI-BABAYYYYYYYYYYY

[Regina George]

^ Right here.. * shows you a sheet of paper and then back-hands you*

[Angelin@]

so naayaa are you saying you have never lusted, mashturbated or f@rnicated yourself ever?! there is no way in hell I am going to believe that!

[TheBigBosS]

virgin till i die

[Regina George]

[quote="Angelin@"]:shock: so naayaa are you saying you have never lusted, mashturbated or f@rnicated yourself ever?! there is no way in hell I am going to believe that! [/quote]

I am a virgin in every sense of the word.

[wStLdNthug]

[quote="Regina George"]^ Right here.. * shows you a sheet of paper and then back-hands you* [/quote]


SCREW BAN DIS TING PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

XAMARI-GASH

[+chilli]

[quote="DawladSade"]Dude, STFU. One thing I cannot stand is a person talking about religion when they have no idea what they are talking about. You don't know what friggin 4th reason 4 wives are allowed or if a 4th reason, 3rd whatever exists. You are trying to logically connect things you might think are related but is not necessarily there. When ever I had questions about the religion, I was never shy of asking questions and I specifically remember the imam I asked that question explaining the reason for up to 4 wives to me and never was it about "man's sexual drive". Everything in Islam is about resisting desire, it is ironic you wish to say Allah is helping men satisfy their desire. Doesn't that stand everything against the Islamic view that earth is a test and heaven is where our reward lies based on how we control our base urgings and desires, the "test" itself.

About the wife not refusing her husband's bed, again you are generalizing something with strict interpretation. A wife cannot refuse her husband's bed to "spite him", to stop having a baby etc. There are strict interpretations you need to take into consideration when discussing such issues kid.[/quote]

Well said.


Ps, there is no clear reasoning/explaining for polygyny or that hadith regarding refusal. They need to be put into context.

[halfoshalfom-614]

********************virgin*************************** waligay hal
marle gabar naaska ka taabtay .........n dats was experiment purposes only......******* i am scare of vigina********how can u trust that ceeeel***********sub xaana lah