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I will agree with you paddington bear , maybe his mother wants to take him back so that he can appreciate better his background .
These little punks out of this great yet congested island of Britain have forgotten who they were !

^ dhagan celis baad lafti ka uu bahan

Shams al- Dawla wrote:I will agree with you paddington bear , maybe his mother wants to take him back so that he can appreciate better his background .
These little punks out of this great yet congested island of Britain have forgotten who they were !

Saxib your a clown. I tried reasoning with you with regards to the issue of Mahram and yes majority of ulema and the popular view is that women require a mahram to even travel beyond their city, i have cited proof in terms of hadith. What is your argument then based on? Stop arguing for the sake of arguing and understand this is matter of religion not our desires or thoughts, it is clearly outlined.

Saxib if anyone requires dhaqan celis, you'd be the first person, based on your character on these forums.


Anyway thank you folks once again. Inshallah i'll be off tommorow, if i get internet access i'll probably stop by, if not inshallah cya in a month or so.

Safar Salaama....Hope all goes well & ilaahay in uu sahlo and caafiyo your grandmother!

*Nobleman* wrote:

Shams al- Dawla wrote:I will agree with you paddington bear , maybe his mother wants to take him back so that he can appreciate better his background .
These little punks out of this great yet congested island of Britain have forgotten who they were !

Saxib your a clown. I tried reasoning with you with regards to the issue of Mahram and yes majority of ulema and the popular view is that women require a mahram to even travel beyond their city, i have cited proof in terms of hadith. What is your argument then based on? Stop arguing for the sake of arguing and understand this is matter of religion not our desires or thoughts, it is clearly outlined.

Saxib if anyone requires dhaqan celis, you'd be the first person, based on your character on these forums.

Ina Baxar strikes the dust.

Ina Baxar, you're telling us your momma went to far away lands without your awoowe or your dad, or her brother, or one of her sons, her nephews?

c'mon man...

If a woman is riding a donkey in the middle of the desert in a culture where women venturing on their own is frowned upon, then it is reasonable for it to be haram. Throwing hadiths around out of context is pointless, if you are going to be true to the words of Bukhari hadiths then go ride your donkey and leave modern technology to us who recognise that Islam is not set in a stone.

Leila25 wrote:If a woman is riding a donkey in the middle of the desert in a culture where women venturing on their own is frowned upon, then it is reasonable for it to be haram. Throwing hadiths around out of context is pointless, if you are going to be true to the words of Bukhari hadiths then go ride your donkey and leave modern technology to us who recognise that Islam is not set in a stone.

My God you have been brain washed. I truly sorry for people like this who think they know more than scholars that have devoted their life to the deen. What is your context or translation of this hadith, how much more clear can it get 'no women should travel except without her muhram'. People who like to design and interpret the deen based on their views and also leila in so many of our discussion you claimed that hadiths and texts should only be interpreted in the time when they were revealed i.e 1400 years ago, like Allah's commands do not apply to today.

Snet full of people who like to argue for the sake of arguing, how a thread about me going to somalia turned into a debate about mahram is beyond me.

Nobleman I wish you the best brother, may you have a safe trip and ilaahey ha cafiyo ayeey, you`re doing the right thing don`t mind this people they know nothing about Islam they are just bunch of miserable idiots who think they can pratice the deen as they wish.