When will somalis get tired of qabiil?

[Xildiiid]

Hawiyes were also killed by daroods but not as much as the reverse. You haven't seen the civil war at all.

I am glad I didn't, doesn't sound very pleasant.

That said, I feel like Darood hold on to it. The same way 9 out of 10 SLand kids will talk to you about the Hargeysa bombings like they were there even if they were born in 2000. I could use AY as my excuse to hate all MJs, wouldn't serve any purpose. I think that just shows the mess that is qabiil and qabyaalad, you go round and round in circles and you find that everyone has a bone to pick.

I did not intend to comment this thread but I had to set you straight.

The bombardments of Hargeisa and other cities inhabited primarily by Isaaq was state terrorism and it had no connection to the civil war whatsoever since the civil war started in 1991. In 1960 it was the SNL party (Isaaq) with 80% of the parliamentary seats in SL that propogated for a union with Somalia Italiana. We could've had a republic dominated by Isaaq just like Djibouti is dominated by our neighbors and compatriots the Ciise but for us the greater good of all Somalis meant more. Grievances existed after the illegal union which culminated in the failed coup in 1961 orchestrated by young military officers from Somaliland and the people supported them but there was no real desire to break free, specially among the civilians, humans are more comfortable by nature, but the events of 1988 turn the tide forever.

The reason why people talk about it is not because they lost relatives because we all did as Somalis but the atrocities mark the highest form of betrayal, did you know that the regime was transporting non Isaaq people from the cities mainly southerners in order to maximize the casualties?

The events that took place in the late 80's mark a significant change in our history as Somalilanders.

[HusseinHassan]

Hussein, You do realize, OG buried your folks in Kista, tell me where is this darood character at again. Nigga prioritize before you end up like the yibir.

you can't pick and choose when it suits you.
either darod is a mythical creature that doesn't exist or darod is a reality to be reckoned with.

[thegoodshepherd]

cousin, this idiot thinks he can outsmart me.
the only reason he still sees darod as his enemy is because he knows what they have done to darod civilians back in 91'.
the amount of guilt he harbors won't allow him to trust darod.

He knows that another 1991 is coming and if Biyomaal side with hutu this time, say goodbye to ever seeing the River Juba ever again


Walahi we should permanently get rid of Biyomaal and Shiekhal if they side with the hutus this time. That is what Harti did in Jubada Hoose when Gaaljecel sided with usc in 1991, there was no mercy for them

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Ain't noting wrong with qabiil. It's just how Zoomali's use which is wrong. This is the net what goes down here stays here. In the real world everybody is usually bussy with their life's. Ain't body got time to say fuck Hawiye and get 20 page of nonsense. It just doesn't happen that way. In the real world people use qabiil for specific reasons. For example like qaraan to build a new school for agoonta or to build wells etc Qabiil has it's bad and good it's just how you use it that matters. I learned about qabiil a while ago on snet before that I barely knew my laf. I never asked my parents about it cause I thought it was wrong.

This.

Most of what goes on here is just kaftan and trolling. If you take this place seriously and let it affect your interactions with Somalis in real life, then you need to seek help ASAP.

[LightAtNight]

cousin, this idiot thinks he can outsmart me.
the only reason he still sees darod as his enemy is because he knows what they have done to darod civilians back in 91'.
the amount of guilt he harbors won't allow him to trust darod.

He knows that another 1991 is coming and if Biyomaal side with hutu this time, say goodbye to ever seeing the River Juba ever again
Walahi we should permanently get rid of Biyomaal and Shiekhal if they side with the hutus this time. That is what Harti did in Jubada Hoose when Gaaljecel sided with usc, there was no mercy for them

Acudubilaah, will see where this callousness will take u

[StormShadow]

Nacala I gotta be that successful to be hated by the irir and raam naag confederation.

Harti

[HusseinHassan]

Nacala I gotta be that successful to be hated by the irir and raam naag confederation.

Harti

@thegoodshepherd, jubbaland is fully under our control as it should have been.

[Marques]

Certain people utilize qabiil because it is a means of survival for them. Since Muqdisho is the centre of political attention and commerce, other regional powers like Puntland etc need to lobby in order to remain relevant. Most Hawiyes that arent qabiilists are usually conservative and seek to see a united Somalia as long as a tolerant and respective government is in place because they don't fear clan reprisal. That's why Daroods have more issues with a Hawiye President than a Hawiye would have with a Darood President. A Darood President, no matter how much he dislikes Hawiyes, knows he has to serve his term in Mogadishu, a Hawiye stronghold and must cooperate with Hawiyes to survive. A Hawiye President, for e.g. Xasan Sheekh may show the slightest anti Darood rhetoric and you'll have original_dervish and HusseinHassan protesting with overweight women in Minnesota crying USC genocide.

[Hawdian]

Marques,

You're right that the only thing Hawiye has over Darod is the capital. If Darod challenges Mogadishu's status as a capital, it is game over for Hawiye. Hawiye is swimming in an ocean of Darod apart from the Indian Ocean on the east coast.

That is why I have proposed and called on Darods to form their own capital under Jubbaland and Puntland pretext thus making Hawiye very very very irrelevant. You failed to challenge them in Mudug such as Galkacayo. Baraxley is forced to fly in and out from Abdillahi Yusuf airport on the terms of PL. Likewise, Sheikh Mohamud and his AMISOM have no say in Kismayo. Pretty much he hardly ventures out from Villa Italia which is guarded by AMISOM.



See the topic: Should General Gabre Change Somalia's Capital? (viewtopic.php?t=353852&p=4306698)

You don't challenge Hawiye in his field of expertise which is killing, robbing and decapitating the body--------you have to remove the capital from their swamp.


Ras

[Marques]

Ignoring the fact that you're not even Isaaq and ignoring that joke of a map (you've even let Puntland infringe on your Somaliland "territory"), why would any rational Isaaq advocate for a Darood to take charge given the bad blood between yourselves You think if they were given that power they would spare you

[blizzard90]

That's why Daroods have more issues with a Hawiye President than a Hawiye would have with a Darood President. A Darood President, no matter how much he dislikes Hawiyes, knows he has to serve his term in Mogadishu, a Hawiye stronghold and must cooperate with Hawiyes to survive. A Hawiye President, for e.g. Xasan Sheekh may show the slightest anti Darood rhetoric and you'll have original_dervish and HusseinHassan protesting with overweight women in Minnesota crying USC genocide.

:dead

[thegoodshepherd]

Darood will perform what is called in political science an "ultimate Exit". We will basically reorient ourselves away from Mogadishu and to Kismayo.
Kismayo has everything Mogadishu has and more. There is literally nothing favoring Mogadishu over Kismayo other than the fact that Darood continue to hold some stupid sentimental notion about the city

Kismayo will become our center, and we will never look back ever again. Basically secession in all but name. You can keep Mogadishu as a just another clan capital
Darood has finally realized that Mogadishu is replaceable with Kismayo. The Holy Land, here I come

[Hawdian]

Ignoring the fact that you're not even Isaaq and ignoring that joke of a map (you've even let Puntland infringe on your Somaliland "territory"), why would any rational Isaaq advocate for a Darood to take charge given the bad blood between yourselves You think if they were given that power they would spare you

Are you the Hutu mod deleting my posts? Very weak son.

Hawiye is very irrelevant. All he has is the status quo of Mogadishu. Take that away and he is just like any other Jareer in southern Somalia.

The map does not infringe an inch into SL's sovereignty. Darod is citizen in SL but Hawiye is not.

[Rabshoole]

Shepard, That's what they all say right before they come down to Mogcity and beg.

Hussein, You do realize, OG buried your folks in Kista, tell me where is this darood character at again. Nigga prioritize before you end up like the yibir.

you can't pick and choose when it suits you.
either darod is a mythical creature that doesn't exist or darod is a reality to be reckoned with.

Darood is dead, accept the fact you're Dhulos who are enslaved, no mount of mamul juba chants you cheer
will release you from your reality, You've proven today, only laangaabs chant this confederation known as darood in hopes of achieving bufferzone, when your arse receives the final nail to this forgotten coffin known as Kastumo, Dream on nigga.

[Marques]

Ignoring the fact that you're not even Isaaq and ignoring that joke of a map (you've even let Puntland infringe on your Somaliland "territory"), why would any rational Isaaq advocate for a Darood to take charge given the bad blood between yourselves You think if they were given that power they would spare you

Are you the Hutu mod deleting my posts? Very weak son.

Hawiye is very irrelevant. All he has is the status quo of Mogadishu. Take that away and he is just like any other Jareer in southern Somalia.

The map does not infringe an inch into SL's sovereignty. Darod is citizen in SL but Hawiye is not.

I'm not a Mod, nor do i delete posts, i'm a grown man and if i engaged this topic with you further i would swipe you across the floor sxb, nigga you're a rookie who hasn't seen the real clan wars on Snet. I don't know where you got the idea you think you reign supreme in this place by calling people Intestine eaters, ma waxaasuun baa afkiisa yaqaan Sxb It doesn't matter the fact you're a pensioner in Australia coz in Snet terms you're not even PG walahi. This ain't Mereja.com where your overlording fellow Xabashi forumers throw you a bone because you wig your tail at them, this is a place where niggas like Marques will call you out on your bullshit coz his people have been kicking Xabash ass for years

Nin wayn oo ku faraxsan inuu Gunta Amxaaro ka dabanaageeyo, ayaa ummada Soomaaliyeed barkeeda wax ka sheegaya yaa salaam.

And Lol@ any Jareer in southern Somalia. Noocaaga oo kale waaba iska dabaal, he doesn't even know that southern Somalia > northern Somalia. Hawiyaha iskaba dhaaf, the Raxanwayn who only fully occupy two main breadbasket regions in the South are a whole unit of the 4.5 clan division whilst your adopted clan (I say adopted because you are not Isaaq my friend and i won't give you that satisfaction that every sheegato dreams of ) that are spread across Sland and Ethiopia are placed under Dir and do not occupy a place in the top 3 positions of governance. Who is relevant now?

Sxb, i've seen your threads, instead of dreaming irrational ass shit like taking over landlocked Ethiopia, why don't you be a little more plausible and try your luck with Mogadishu the East African Crown Jewels that even Melez your hero promised to deliver to his countrymen.