The Western Somalia/Ogaden Cause

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Err...no. Somaliland and Djibouti were part of the Adal/Ifat Sultanate. And the rest of Somalia was simply too far.

[PureQ]

Err...no. Somaliland and Djibouti were part of the Adal/Ifat Sultanate. And the rest of Somalia was simply too far.

I think you are confusing abyssinia with aksum. I was talking about the 100–940 AD aksum, that empire you hear about the elephant war in mecca, sahaba migration etc

According to Wiki

Today part of Ethiopia
Eritrea
Somalia
Djibouti
Sudan
Yemen
Egypt
Saudi Arabia

[Hararboy]

Somaliland, Djibouti, K5 and Somalia were never under any habashi empire. Stop making up history. In fact, apart from a small section of northern Ethiopia and Eritrea, the habashis never ruled anything. Please stop making up fake history.

It was indeed true that Djibouti and Somaliland was part of Axumite [Tigrean] empire. They ruled Yemen so that was obvious how close Aden is to Berbera.

Somalia/K5 I believe was too far, barren land, uninhabited and no importance for them.

Inb4 Hawdian.

They were protoHabeshas, and they spoke Geez not Tigrean. Geez is the father culture/langauge of the habeshas including Tigrinya Eritrea.Thats why the Amharas, Tigrayans and Eritrea Tigrinya all have nearly identical cultures and they practice the same form of Christianity. Geez is now an extinct language that is only spoken in the Eritrean and Ethiopian Tawahedo Church, like Latin.

[JSL3000]

Somaliland, Djibouti, K5 and Somalia were never under any habashi empire. Stop making up history. In fact, apart from a small section of northern Ethiopia and Eritrea, the habashis never ruled anything. Please stop making up fake history.

It was indeed true that Djibouti and Somaliland was part of Axumite [Tigrean] empire. They ruled Yemen so that was obvious how close Aden is to Berbera.

Somalia/K5 I believe was too far, barren land, uninhabited and no importance for them.

Inb4 Hawdian.

You guys all wish that ya ruled somali mainland, it won't happen in a million years


I think what you means is that we did some trading and that's it

[Hararboy]

Lol..You guys are insane, You know how much the Habeshas want to claim their former Aksumite territories, and that includes Somaliland. They feel like they coud only be great once they have all their former ancient territories. This has been their mentality since Tewedros II united the Habeshas. Thats why for hundreds of years theyve been trying to claim Hararge and Eritrea. Its been entrenched in their minds since they were young when they used to read stories about their ancestors. I would call it branwashing, I could see why they fought so hard to keep Eritrea and pretty much bunkrupted the country. And theyre still scheming to take Eritrea with the US help.

Unlike Tigrayans, Amharas seem to have this mentality the most. And if there was a regional war, do you really ,think Somaliland, a population of 4 million with a poorly trained army and no international friends would ever take on tens of millions of Habeshas who think its their god given right to reestablish their former empire. Amharas are hungry people who have no respect for other cultures and they have entitlement issues, and they feel like if they controlled the country, they could easily unite Eritrea and Somaliland with Ethiopia and restore Amhara pride. Tigrayans are smaller ethnic group who know their limits and atleast seem to have respect for Somalilanders. Your people better hope in these hypothetical civil wars, its the Oromos who come on top and not the Amharas because if they did restore the Amhara regime, they would try their best to take coastal countries that was once apart of Aksum. Tigrayan rule as much as we despise them, is the better of three evils.

This is Abyssinia map that amharat only run before the 1900s. You calling them superpower or something? They barely run anything.

Why do you think Solomonic dynasty refer themselves as an island surrounded by muslims and pagans?

Akxumite is part of Ethiopia today.. .





Back then no one had functional state or armies because of European colonization. SL, Somalia and Djibouti was under colonization. Italy and britain left Eritrea with no government or no army in the 1940s hence it was easily annexed by amharat but everyone has a government and a force now that can deter neighbors from occupying.


Lay off with the fear monger.

Lol..You guys are insane, You know how much the Habeshas want to claim their former Aksumite territories, and that includes Somaliland. They feel like they coud only be great once they have all their former ancient territories. This has been their mentality since Tewedros II united the Habeshas. Thats why for hundreds of years theyve been trying to claim Hararge and Eritrea. Its been entrenched in their minds since they were young when they used to read stories about their ancestors. I would call it branwashing, I could see why they fought so hard to keep Eritrea and pretty much bunkrupted the country. And theyre still scheming to take Eritrea with the US help.

Unlike Tigrayans, Amharas seem to have this mentality the most. And if there was a regional war, do you really ,think Somaliland, a population of 4 million with a poorly trained army and no international friends would ever take on tens of millions of Habeshas who think its their god given right to reestablish their former empire. Amharas are hungry people who have no respect for other cultures and they have entitlement issues, and they feel like if they controlled the country, they could easily unite Eritrea and Somaliland with Ethiopia and restore Amhara pride. Tigrayans are smaller ethnic group who know their limits and atleast seem to have respect for Somalilanders. Your people better hope in these hypothetical civil wars, its the Oromos who come on top and not the Amharas because if they did restore the Amhara regime, they would try their best to take coastal countries that was once apart of Aksum. Tigrayan rule as much as we despise them, is the better of three evils.

In your dreams...

Somaliland, Djibouti, K5 and Somalia were never under any habashi empire. Stop making up history. In fact, apart from a small section of northern Ethiopia and Eritrea, the habashis never ruled anything. Please stop making up fake history.

:lol I thought you guys were well read. The Habeshas endgame has always been to restore their old empire, or atleast regions that holds current geopolitical importance like Eritrea, Djibouti. Its always been their main goal. Thats why habeshas hate Islam so much because they blame islamic/Arab expansionism for their isolation as much of their coastal territories became target for the various islamic empires that would try to conquer and convert them just like in sudan which used to belong to the same Christian sect. Habeshas werent always landlocked midgets. They were for hundreds of years the vikings of the red sea.

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/ent ... ite_Empire

[JSL3000]

Ahmed Guray was from saylac, somaliland xabeshi still have nightmares about him check out haile salassie memiors so don't underestimate us.

Imam Ahmed Ibn Ibrahim better known as "Ahmed Gurey/gragn" who was ethnic Somali general who conquered Abyssinia (Ethiopia) in 16th century.

"By the summer at 1532 the Imams well armed troops had overrun almost all Ethiopia,s eastern and southern provinces, among them Dawaro, Bali, Hadeya, Ganz, waj, Fatager and Ifat." (Richard Pankhurst 2001:87)

The Ethiopians were forced to ask for help from the Portuguese, who landed at the port of Massawa on February 10, 1541 in the reign of the emperor Gelawdewos .

If ethiopia every dare attack djibouti and somaliland it will be total jihad against there terrority this time it won't be so lucky around.we all know who run to foreigners at the end of day.xabeshi is forever weak.

http://www.ukessays.com/essays/history/ ... z3vB6onO93

[Hararboy]

Ahmed Guray was from saylac, somaliland xabeshi still have nightmares about him check out haile salassie memiors so don't underestimate us.

Imam Ahmed Ibn Ibrahim better known as "Ahmed Gurey/gragn" who was ethnic Somali general who conquered Abyssinia (Ethiopia) in 16th century.

"By the summer at 1532 the Imams well armed troops had overrun almost all Ethiopia,s eastern and southern provinces, among them Dawaro, Bali, Hadeya, Ganz, waj, Fatager and Ifat." (Richard Pankhurst 2001:87)

The Ethiopians were forced to ask for help from the Portuguese, who landed at the port of Massawa on February 10, 1541 in the reign of the emperor Gelawdewos .

If ethiopia every dare attack djibouti and somaliland it will be total jihad against there terrority this time it won't be so lucky around.

http://www.ukessays.com/essays/history/ ... z3vB6onO93

They didnt control Somaliland, perhaps they just had a little bit of influence in that area tho. These history books I read are sometimes filled with errors.

[MarsinQorahay]

Ahmed Guray was from saylac, somaliland xabeshi still have nightmares about him check out haile salassie memiors so don't underestimate us.

Imam Ahmed Ibn Ibrahim better known as "Ahmed Gurey/gragn" who was ethnic Somali general who conquered Abyssinia (Ethiopia) in 16th century.

"By the summer at 1532 the Imams well armed troops had overrun almost all Ethiopia,s eastern and southern provinces, among them Dawaro, Bali, Hadeya, Ganz, waj, Fatager and Ifat." (Richard Pankhurst 2001:87)

The Ethiopians were forced to ask for help from the Portuguese, who landed at the port of Massawa on February 10, 1541 in the reign of the emperor Gelawdewos .

If ethiopia every dare attack djibouti and somaliland it will be total jihad against there terrority this time it won't be so lucky around.

http://www.ukessays.com/essays/history/ ... z3vB6onO93

you have already surrendered, why dont you start with those ethiopian ''diplomat'' generals who enjoys the fruit of hargeisa?

[JSL3000]

Ahmed Guray was from saylac, somaliland xabeshi still have nightmares about him check out haile salassie memiors so don't underestimate us.

you have already surrendered, why dont you start with those ethiopian ''diplomat'' generals who enjoys the fruit of hargeisa?

Marshin it's you cagdheers under xabeshi and kenyatti enslavement so go that way

[MarsinQorahay]

Ahmed Guray was from saylac, somaliland xabeshi still have nightmares about him check out haile salassie memiors so don't underestimate us.

you have already surrendered, why dont you start with those ethiopian ''diplomat'' generals who enjoys the fruit of hargeisa?

Marshin it's you cagdheers under xabeshi and kenyatti enslavement so go that way

Are you denying that Ethiopia indirectly controls the politics of all somalis including somaliland?

Get back to your sense you delusional little boy.

[JSL3000]

you have already surrendered, why dont you start with those ethiopian ''diplomat'' generals who enjoys the fruit of hargeisa?

Cagdheer I know you want to save your xabeshi master, but your going to have to proved it or shut up don't have time for conspiracy theories like waagacusub

[MarsinQorahay]

Sxb, we fought and still fight against them xabashis unlike your coward little idoors who never raised a finger against their different masters.
History speaks for itself.

[JSL3000]

Sxb, we fought and still fight against them xabashis unlike your coward little idoors who never raised a finger against their different masters.
History speaks for itself.

I don't call fighting for your qabiil "ogadeen" a fight, I call that ignorance, and maybe, if ogadeen didn't fight for just one particular group we would've have gotten involved already but just to save your hill billy asses, no way.

[MarsinQorahay]

Sxb, we fought and still fight against them xabashis unlike your coward little idoors who never raised a finger against their different masters.
History speaks for itself.

I don't call fighting for your qabiil "ogadeen" a fight, I call that ignorance.

[JSL3000]

Silly hillbilly cagdheer