How many Somali murtads are there?

[Unclebin-]

[I testify that] there is no god (ilah) but God (Allah), and [I testify that] Muhammad is the messenger of God.


Alluring

Why are you following me around? Sheik ibn Abdulwahab credibilty was at stake... Renounce him with one simple statement....

[Alluring]

I hope he didn't, because you have to be really sick to utter those words. People can judge individuals based on actions, but in reality ALLAH SWT is perfection, therefore the Quran can NEVER be outdated.

[Alluring]

A man can not tell me how to live my life, and it seems as though you are worshipping him, Unclebin. I only worship ALLAH SWT! Now excuse yourself that way >>>>>

[Luq_Ganane]

[quote="PosH"]I don't remember him saying that at all, and, if he did, that's undefendable.[/quote]


He said we cannot govern based on something that was brought down 1400 years ago. Quit the games walaal.

[Shirib]

Here' his exact quote

"You cant rule a modern state on a decree preached upon 1400+ years ago."

Others have said that we are not ready for Islamic Sharia but this guy has said the Qu'ran and Sunnah were preached 1400 years ago and are not fit to be used today. Thats BLASPHEMY.

Still I asked him to explain himself and he replied

"Religion has no role to play in the public sphere:

The guy isn't against how you use Islamic Sharia or when but against the whole thing. We are Muslim and Islamic Sharia should be used you can't completely say no to it.


I asked him if he was Muslim because he sounded fanatical and he reponded

"I am Wacbudhan"

I asked him if Wacbudhan was his religion and he responded

"I am wacbudhan nooh. iska faham!"

There's a big diference between Twisted's stand on Shariah and that of Luq and
NoAngst is saying.

While Luq and NoAngst say the time isn't right Twisted says the Sharia is outdated and should NEVER be used.

Posh and co how the hell do you guys defend this guy?


He has also previously said "Lets have our own culture and if possible our own religion"


Are Twisted's words not BLASPHEMOUS towards Islam

[PosH]

[quote="Luq_Ganane"][quote="PosH"]I don't remember him saying that at all, and, if he did, that's undefendable.[/quote]


He said we cannot govern based on something that was brought down 1400 years ago. Quit the games walaal.[/quote]

Did he say, VERBATIM, that the Quran was outdated or was that something you deduced from his comments?

Again, we interpreted his comments differently. I think he has an issue with how Sharia Law would be applied and you think he has an issue with the Quran PERIOD.

And what game should I quit playing?! :s

[Luq_Ganane]

Posh read Shirib's post above. If you still don't get it after that, then to each his own.

[PosH]

[quote="Shirib"]
"Religion has no role to play in the public sphere:
[/quote]

I think that religion and politics shouldn't mix.

Religion is a personal issue between an individual and God. Shaikhs shouldn't try to govern the lives of others and should stick to their realm ( the Mosque). I guess you can deduce what you want from my comments and conclude what you wish. Good day to you all.

[Twisted_Logic]

None-Sense Thread a waste of time. Yes I am a Somali and Yes I am a Muslim. Move on and go on with your lives.

ps

Thanks to Posh and other who have supported me.

[Unclebin-]

Thats good for you.... But you can't back your claims so what credibility do you have when you insult a shuyukh and can't bring evidence?



Anyhow here is twisted logic....

"Religion has no role to play in the public sphere. Just look at Saudi Arabia. Leave it at home"

"I agree. If the socalled qalifah couldnt implement shariah law 100% who are we to do it?"

"In the meantime lets sip Jack Daniels and club in Suuq Bacaad!"

"Exactly man. I had this turkish roommate and he prays in turkish. i tried to do the same thing in Somali but i couldnt read the tafsir well, so i gave up. We should start our own somali prayin commitee to protect the sanctity of the somali language. a$$-whipes want to colonize us through cultural supression. Unite!"

"Does God care what language you speak? if so aint that discrimination?..... a racist one?"

"carabta caadi ma aha! look what a brainwashin machine they turned you into!"

Plus he denied answering are you muslim..............

Prays salat in SOMALI?

THINKS WE ARE BRAINWASHED? LOOOOOL

[Twisted_Logic]

[quote="PosH"][quote="Shirib"]
"Religion has no role to play in the public sphere:
[/quote]

I think that religion and politics shouldn't mix.

Religion is a personal issue between an individual and God. Shaikhs shouldn't try to govern the lives of others and should stick to their realm ( the Mosque). I guess you can deduce what you want from my comments and conclude what you wish. Good day to you all.[/quote]

Exactly! That is my stand too. Now watch others label you a Kuffar and infidel!

[Unclebin-]

Twisted DO you make your prayers in Arabic or Somali?

Clearly this simple If say somali I apologize... if not you are a murtad.

[Unclebin-]

Sheiks should stick to there own realm? Wallahi this is crazy.

[Twisted_Logic]

[quote="Unclebin-"]Thats good for you.... But you can't back your claims so what credibility do you have when you insult a shuyukh and can't bring evidence?



Anyhow here is twisted logic....

"Religion has no role to play in the public sphere. Just look at Saudi Arabia. Leave it at home"

"I agree. If the socalled qalifah couldnt implement shariah law 100% who are we to do it?"

"In the meantime lets sip Jack Daniels and club in Suuq Bacaad!"

"Exactly man. I had this turkish roommate and he prays in turkish. i tried to do the same thing in Somali but i couldnt read the tafsir well, so i gave up. We should start our own somali prayin commitee to protect the sanctity of the somali language. a$$-whipes want to colonize us through cultural supression. Unite!"

"Does God care what language you speak? if so aint that discrimination?..... a racist one?"

"carabta caadi ma aha! look what a brainwashin machine they turned you into!"

Plus he denied answering are you muslim..............

Prays salat in SOMALI?

THINKS WE ARE BRAINWASHED? LOOOOOL[/quote]


"Exactly man. I had this turkish roommate and he prays in turkish. i tried to do the same thing in Somali but i couldnt read the tafsir well, so i gave up. We should start our own somali prayin commitee to protect the sanctity of the somali language. a$$-whipes want to colonize us through cultural supression. Unite!"

That statment was a joke and every sane mind can see that.

[Twisted_Logic]

[quote="Unclebin-"]Twisted DO you make your prayers in Arabic or Somali?

Clearly this simple If say somali I apologize... if not you are a murtad.[/quote]

WTF is Murtad anyway?