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Re: No more S/land Somalia talks
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:23 am
by Executive
greenday wrote:Executive wrote:greenday wrote:Sounds fair, PL is just a mamuul gobleed or maybe Galmudug and Ahlusuna should get men there too

Somaliland just wants to keep Dhulbahante and Warsangeli out of the wadahadle. Puntland should be involved and so should Khaatumo cause it concerns their region.
You have a dhulbahante, and all darood qabiils in the TFG, you cant be represented twice

Do all PL politicians want to leave the TFG and they can have their share as PL?
We are not represented at all in the talks.
Re: No more S/land Somalia talks
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:25 am
by greenday
Who gets represented every single time

having every qabiil present in each meeting is impossible

Re: No more S/land Somalia talks
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:31 am
by Executive
^ In that case Why do you have an opinion on who should get represented and who shouldn't?
Siilaanyo was smart when he picked his technical committee. Sh Sharif wasn't.
Re: No more S/land Somalia talks
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:36 am
by greenday
Shriif picked who he thought would bring the best result for "Somalia", you think being smart is getting people only PL are happy with? he picked a committee from Darood, Dir, Banadiri, Raxanweyn and Hawiye to include most people, marka how can you guys complain? everyone gets 1 you guys get 3, how does that logic work

Re: No more S/land Somalia talks
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:45 am
by Executive
greenday wrote:Shriif picked who he thought would bring the best result for "Somalia", you think being smart is getting people only PL are happy with? he picked a committee from Darood, Dir, Banadiri, Raxanweyn and Hawiye to include most people, marka how can you guys complain? everyone gets 1 you guys get 3, how does that logic work

Again. we got Zero.
Re: No more S/land Somalia talks
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:48 am
by original dervish
the committee should be composed of people from the north.
Why should the tfg play the secessionists game, that all northerners want to secede.

Re: No more S/land Somalia talks
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:49 am
by greenday
Executive wrote:greenday wrote:Shriif picked who he thought would bring the best result for "Somalia", you think being smart is getting people only PL are happy with? he picked a committee from Darood, Dir, Banadiri, Raxanweyn and Hawiye to include most people, marka how can you guys complain? everyone gets 1 you guys get 3, how does that logic work

Again. we got Zero.
What do you mean you got zero, are you not darood

Re: No more S/land Somalia talks
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:00 am
by Executive
greenday wrote:Executive wrote:greenday wrote:Shriif picked who he thought would bring the best result for "Somalia", you think being smart is getting people only PL are happy with? he picked a committee from Darood, Dir, Banadiri, Raxanweyn and Hawiye to include most people, marka how can you guys complain? everyone gets 1 you guys get 3, how does that logic work

Again. we got Zero.
What do you mean you got zero, are you not darood

Somaliland does not engage with TFG, the main issues between Somaliland and Somalia is the dispute, conflict and fighting between Somaliland and Khaatumo. You will not solve any problems by over looking that issue .Do you see what I am trying to say? If our TFG minister was part of the talks perhaps something tangible could be achieved. Instead you have 1 Dhulbahante representing Somaliland and another Dhulbahante representing Puntland but both claiming the region and its people. This is just going to be counter-productive.
Re: No more S/land Somalia talks
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:10 am
by greenday
Who wants to talk about Khatuumo or PL? this talk is about weather they get recognition or stay

are you saying the people in the committee are not capable of telling SL, "you must leave the disrupted areas if you want to leave if it comes down to it

again this is not about a disputed regions!
Are dhulbanate, part of SL, Khatuumo or PL

Re: No more S/land Somalia talks
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:13 am
by Executive

smh
Re: No more S/land Somalia talks
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:14 am
by greenday
Bilaasha madaxa la runxee.
Re: No more S/land Somalia talks
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:16 am
by abdikarim86
greenday wrote:Who wants to talk about Khatuumo or PL? this talk is about weather they get recognition or stay

are you saying the people in the committee are not capable of telling SL, "you must leave the disrupted areas if you want to leave if it comes down to it

again this is not about a disputed regions!
Are dhulbanate, part of SL, Khatuumo or PL 
All 3
SSC exchanged for recognition is probably the most likely
thing acceptable to all parties.
Re: No more S/land Somalia talks
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:18 am
by Executive
abdikarim86 wrote:SSC exchanged for recognition is probably the most likely
thing acceptable to all parties.
I agree, but its very unlikely to happen.
Re: No more S/land Somalia talks
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:18 am
by original dervish
men, women and children are being killed in the, "disputed regions".
whole towns and cities are being besieged and bombarded in the, "disputed regions".
Thousands of civilians have been driven from their homes in the, "disputed regions".
now we have some jokers suggesting the, "disputed regions" are not the issue.
The "disputed regions" and the atrocities being committed there, must be the cornerstone of any discussions with the secessionists.
Re: No more S/land Somalia talks
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:21 am
by greenday
original dervish wrote:men, women and children are being killed in the, "disputed regions".
whole towns and cities are being besieged and bombarded in the, "disputed regions".
Thousands of civilians have been driven from their homes in the, "disputed regions".
now we have some jokers suggesting the, "disputed regions" are not the issue.
The "disputed regions" and the atrocities being committed there, must be the cornerstone of any discussions with the secessionists.
Men, women children have being dying in Somalia for how long

every little tuulo qola isku heysato
