Do you have individual Somalis you admire

[HasanReerowHasan]

Lamagoodle,

Thanks for the information the Website. I read it through

Adali,
who the picture in your avater btw?

Reerawhassan,

it is not difficult to believe that ahmed gurey was marehan as many of his fighters were. There are other possibilites, but in my opinion, the claim of him being marehan is not farfetched and it has been with us for a long time. He could have been samaroon or Ogaden too, but the thing is we need some back ups and from the information we got his succeser was marehan the same person who married his widow. Anyway, I have not problem witht the clan of the person. He was ethnic Somali beyond doubt and that is what counts. We can omit his clan. No need to.

walaal, I swear I have no problem him being Mareexan. Why should I? I'm partially Mareexan. But let us be honest with each other sxb. I dont believe Imam Axmed Gurey was marexaan, Ogaden or Samaroon. I believe he was Asharaaf. actually that's what most people believe . Axmed Gurey's real name was "Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi" and his name sound more like "Asharaaf than a typical Somali.

[daiman]

Never heard that he was asharaaf. Yet another claim, but very unlikely claim. He was an ethnic somali and that is what the most historians agreed on. I am no longer bothered talking about his clan. That is pointless.
btw there is no suggestion that this was an arabic name just theauthor of futux alhabash was an Arabic and it is an arabic style to write ' reerawhassan ibnu(l) hassan ibnul daauud...
the son of hassan...fulaan fulaan..

algazi is not his last name or abtirsiiyo btw. it does not sound like it. It just means Ahmed ibrahiim, the warrior or milliatry leader or something like that.

ask native Arabic speakers. May be hyper can help us here.

[Adali]

The man on my avatar is the Professor Hirsi the head of Ahlu Sade in Central Somalia.

[HasanReerowHasan]

Daiman, sxb I would recommend that you read the book " Futuh Al-Habasha":(The Conquest of Abyssinia).
The author of the book was an eyewitness of several of the battles between Sheikh Axmed Gurey and the Abyssinians.

[daiman]

Reerawhassan,
you said that Axmed Gurey's real name was "Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi" and his name sound more like "Asharaaf than a typical Somali.
But this is just Arabic/Muslim style of addressing abtirsiinyo and the title of the person. It is not that the name is not Somali or typical somali style. It was an Arabic author (whether he was present at the battles or not).

Are you suggesting Ahmed, Ibrahim are not somali names? of course not. The way it is written was common and still common in arabic style.
are you saying alghazi is ashraaf name? but it does not enter here as a name but as the title of the Iman. He was never addressed ad sheikh??
alghazi means the commender or millitary leader etc. This is what it sounds to me is this: ahmaed the son-of Ibrahim, the Amer( the commander).

stick to you point.

[Shirib]

The man on my avatar is the Professor Hirsi the head of Ahlu Sade in Central Somalia.

What is he a professor of?

[CaliBurco]

The Daarood Conquerors

who's the dude that looks blind

The former President of Somaliland, the 3rd President of Somaliland overall and the 1st Gadabuursi conqueror of Daarood Lands.

[HasanReerowHasan]

Reerawhassan,
you said that Axmed Gurey's real name was "Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi" and his name sound more like "Asharaaf than a typical Somali.
But this is just Arabic/Muslim style of addressing abtirsiinyo and the title of the person. It is not that the name is not Somali or typical somali style. It was an Arabic author (whether he was present at the battles or not).

Are you suggesting Ahmed, Ibrahim are not somali names? of course not. The way it is written was common and still common in arabic style.
are you saying alghazi is ashraaf name? but it does not enter here as a name but as the title of the Iman. He was never addressed ad sheikh??
alghazi means the commender or millitary leader etc. This is what it sounds to me is this: ahmaed the son-of Ibrahim, the Amer( the commander).

stick to you point.

Sxb Axmed Gurey was given the title as Imam which means a "Religious leader". And sheikh is a "religious man", So when someone is Imam he is sheikh so madan garan?
And you have to understand that the identity and the Qabiil of the imam is a bit unknown. Because at the time of the Imam was born Adal was a multi-ethnic state comprising Somalis, cafar iyo carab.

The idea of him being Mareexan started probably Kacaanki.

[daiman]

Reerawhassan,

I am not advocating that he was marehan, just that he was an ethnic somali.

[NoAngst.]

I don't like warriors and warmongers that rules out people like Gurey and C. Xassan. I admire Aden Cadde (AUN), Cabdirashiid, Abwaan Cali Sugulle, Aw Kuku, Prof. Axmed Samatar, that women who ran a hospital near Marka all throughout the civil war era at great personal risk, can't remember her name now.

[daiman]

Non of the people you mentioned would have enjoyed the freedom they enjoyed if it was not Sayid Mohamed Abdulle hassas- a warrior, a politician and Muslim leader. As for ahmed gurey is a sympol of Somali history in the midd-ages

[eyes-only]

Cabdillahi Suldaan Timacadde (AUN)

He was one of the very few and true anti-qabiliste and he was so head of his time

Dadkaan la hadlayaa baan lahayn, dux iyo iimaane
Bal inay dalfoof tahay caqliga, dooni laga saaray
Wixii hore u soo daashaday, degashanaysaaye
Doc hadday u wada jeedsatooy, dhowrto danaheeda
Ooy duul walaala ah tahooy, duunka ka heshiiso
Dadka kama yaraateene ways, dabar jaraysaaye
...Dugsi maleh qabyaaladi waxay dumiso mooyaane..

I don't have much admiration for anyone but I like his poetry.

[Sagaashan]

Sayid Maxamad Cabdalla Xassan. of course without the qabiil filled tirades. Besides this dent on his record, He epitomize Somalis independent mind, superior mindset, and fighting to the bitter end for one's honor and religion. and the icing on the cake was to exemplify in a way for the the history books in the only mode of communication Somalis cherished then and and now: poetry. in a way, the late president Cabdirishid Sharma'arke (aun) might have had the Sayid in mind when he said that Somalis have two national treasures 'religion and poetry.'

[Khalid Ali]

Non of the people you mentioned would have enjoyed the freedom they enjoyed if it was not Sayid Mohamed Abdulle hassas- a warrior, a politician and Muslim leader. As for ahmed gurey is a sympol of Somali history in the midd-ages

Daiman Mohammad abdulla hassan was a coward he fled his wife Naado buraale and His sister and fled to imeey no way can he be compared to the legendary Ahmed ibrahim al ghazi the Imam who died in battle a true Mujahiid. Imam Ahmed fought in the highlands of Ethiopia. Mohammad abdulla hassan was no great leader other than his little jacburs. Mohammad Abdullah hassan died in 1921 , Somaliland and Somaliaa gained independence 39 years later SYL and SNL were successful.Ahmed ibrahim Al ghazi made the Ethiopians eat raw meat a true Mujahid may allah bless his soul.

[DarthSomali]

I admire the Hawiye Amiir Ahmed Gurey