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Re: What is your opinion on Secession?

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Emperior if the shoe was on the other foot and we lived in the south and the north wanted to seceed I would personally drive them to the african union office or anywhere they want. :mrgreen:
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Re: What is your opinion on Secession?

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Cumar-Labasuul wrote:Emperior if the shoe was on the other foot and we lived in the south and the north wanted to seceed I would personally drive them to the african union office or anywhere they want. :mrgreen:

walahi me to maalintay ku dhawaaqaan ayaan oodhan laha naga la tagga buuqiina iyo calacaalkiina watan eeh na dhaafa :mrgreen:

laakin inaku waanu ka caqli fiicanahay :mrgreen:
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Re: What is your opinion on Secession?

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The_Emperior5 wrote:
Cumar-Labasuul wrote:Emperior if the shoe was on the other foot and we lived in the south and the north wanted to seceed I would personally drive them to the african union office or anywhere they want. :mrgreen:

walahi me to maalintay ku dhawaaqaan ayaan oodhan laha naga la tagga buuqiina iyo calacaalkiina watan eeh na dhaafa :mrgreen:

laakin inaku waanu ka caqli fiicanahay :mrgreen:
:lol: :lol: Walle waa runtaa, beerahaana mid ayaan soo iibsan lahaa, xeebta agteedana villa ayaan ka dhisan lahaa, inan jaariyad na waan so qabsan lahaa.
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Re: What is your opinion on Secession?

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I support Ogaden secession from Ethiopia but i oppose Somaliland secession from Xamar!!! :evil:
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Re: What is your opinion on Secession?

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The_Emperior5 wrote:
Ka darag wrote:NEWAYS IM GOING TO SHITLAND NXT SUMMA :lol: :lol: :up:

Horta whats wrong with you beryahan abtiyo you been so negetive :|
IM NOT NEGATIVE..IT'S A GOOD SHITLAND DEE ..IM JUST BEING HONEST ABTI :|
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Re: What is your opinion on Secession?

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Abdi_Som wrote:I support Ogaden secession from Ethiopia but i oppose Somaliland secession from Xamar!!! :evil:

why maxaad uu kala jecleyssatay :up:
I support ogaden secession from Ethiopia
i support somaliland secession from somalia :up:
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Re: What is your opinion on Secession?

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Ka darag wrote:
The_Emperior5 wrote:
Ka darag wrote:NEWAYS IM GOING TO SHITLAND NXT SUMMA :lol: :lol: :up:

Horta whats wrong with you beryahan abtiyo you been so negetive :|
IM NOT NEGATIVE..IT'S A GOOD SHITLAND DEE ..IM JUST BEING HONEST ABTI :|
africa aint that bad :lol:
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Re: What is your opinion on Secession?

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IM NOT NEGATIVE..IT'S A GOOD SHITLAND DEE ..IM JUST BEING HONEST ABTI
oke abtiyo sannadka danbe weynu is raacayna laakin wadanka hanaga cayin :P :mrgreen:
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Re: What is your opinion on Secession?

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IM NOT NEGATIVE..IT'S A GOOD SHITLAND DEE ..IM JUST BEING HONEST ABTI :|[/quote]
africa aint that bad :lol:[/quote]
I KNOW WHAT SHITLAND IS LIKE...REMEMBER I'VE BEEN THERE..NEWAYS CANT WAIT :clap: :clap:

I MISS THE FOOD HERE...............U CNT GET EVERYTHING U GET HERE, THERE. :|
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Re: What is your opinion on Secession?

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Captain24 wrote:
Crazy Cat Lady wrote:It would set a dangerous precedent around the world, imagine every tiny group slighted by the central govt demanding secession! If Somaliland is recognized I give up on life.
Nice to see you are a dooro. I always though you were a Lander :lol:
adiga every qashin for you is darood.. :|
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Re: What is your opinion on Secession?

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Cumar,

Secession can work but it has to be done in a proper way not like it was done in 1992 by Abdirahman tur (AUN) who later on was against it.

The proper way of doing a break up:

1. Free and Fair Referendum on the Union between Konfur and Wuuqoyi - A Vote for and against it to be held in the North and South with ordinary citizens voting on the issue.

2. If the break up vote wins, then the issue becomes on dividing the costs and assets of the Union between the two future nations. All the debts and assets are to be split among the two.

3. A demarcation of borders would have to be established along with resolving issues of citizenship, property rights of citizens in both areas etc.



The reason why Somaliland has not received recognition is that it had no input from the other half of the Union and a significant number of groups in the North opposed it. There is a difference between Odeeyaal of a qabiil meeting under a tree and holding a referendum all over Somalia on the issue.

So I am for splitting up Somalia if it occurs in a fair and transparent manner. Its an insult to see SOmalia now divided into MiniStates that are at each other's throats and are being played against each other by the Ethiopians. We shouldn't go from Somaliweyn to Xabashiweyn.
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Re: What is your opinion on Secession?

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What is your opinion on Secession?


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Re: What is your opinion on Secession?

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AbdiWahab252 wrote:Cumar,

Secession can work but it has to be done in a proper way not like it was done in 1992 by Abdirahman tur (AUN) who later on was against it.

The proper way of doing a break up:

1. Free and Fair Referendum on the Union between Konfur and Wuuqoyi - A Vote for and against it to be held in the North and South with ordinary citizens voting on the issue.

2. If the break up vote wins, then the issue becomes on dividing the costs and assets of the Union between the two future nations. All the debts and assets are to be split among the two.


3. A demarcation of borders would have to be established along with resolving issues of citizenship, property rights of citizens in both areas etc.




The reason why Somaliland has not received recognition is that it had no input from the other half of the Union and a significant number of groups in the North opposed it. There is a difference between Odeeyaal of a qabiil meeting under a tree and holding a referendum all over Somalia on the issue.

So I am for splitting up Somalia if it occurs in a fair and transparent manner. Its an insult to see SOmalia now divided into MiniStates that are at each other's throats and are being played against each other by the Ethiopians. We shouldn't go from Somaliweyn to Xabashiweyn.
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Re: What is your opinion on Secession?

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AbdiWahab252 wrote:Cumar,

Secession can work but it has to be done in a proper way not like it was done in 1992 by Abdirahman tur (AUN) who later on was against it.

The proper way of doing a break up:

1. Free and Fair Referendum on the Union between Konfur and Wuuqoyi - A Vote for and against it to be held in the North and South with ordinary citizens voting on the issue.

2. If the break up vote wins, then the issue becomes on dividing the costs and assets of the Union between the two future nations. All the debts and assets are to be split among the two.

3. A demarcation of borders would have to be established along with resolving issues of citizenship, property rights of citizens in both areas etc.



The reason why Somaliland has not received recognition is that it had no input from the other half of the Union and a significant number of groups in the North opposed it. There is a difference between Odeeyaal of a qabiil meeting under a tree and holding a referendum all over Somalia on the issue.

So I am for splitting up Somalia if it occurs in a fair and transparent manner. Its an insult to see SOmalia now divided into MiniStates that are at each other's throats and are being played against each other by the Ethiopians. We shouldn't go from Somaliweyn to Xabashiweyn.



Abdiwahab if a referendum is held it will be only held in Somaliland because it’s the decision of the people of Somaliland they decide there destiny not Somalia.
When Eritrea was breaking off , the Eritrean people voted for an independent Eritrea , The people of Ethiopia where never asked to vote for Ertirea independence or not
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Re: What is your opinion on Secession?

Post by Cumar-Labasuul »

Abdiwahab
I agree with your post that the only way to get recognition is for it to be agreed by both governments, the one in xamar and the one in hargeysa. However what happens if the majority of the people in the north vote for secession and the majority of the rest of somalia votes against secession therefore secession being rejected, what happens then will those that voted for secession be forced to stay with somalia?
Btw I agree that ethiopia is using us against each other but before we blame ethiopia we should blame ourselves, I mean no one told us to pick up a gun and fight each other.
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