Your suggestions on how to give/claim back stolen property

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voltage maxaa Alpha ku boodaysa? He said that his father has a home in xamar (given to him as an employee of the government) that is currently occupied, and the squatters are not people who owned that house/land before it was nationalized. He wants to also know if the nationalized land was compensated by the government, to understand if people who previously owned the land before nationalization can still have a legitimate claim to the land. So from my view it was a personal concern of his, that relates to this topic. I don't believe Alpha was even aware of such a thing as people who claim land that was nationalized. Even though this is all theoretical, and we have no clue people claiming land before nationalization.

I think the general case is documents during the time of government proving ownership is given first priority. I don't believe people claiming something as far back as 60's or before will be taken seriously. It's like people in the usa claiming land taken from them through deceptive means by railroad companies a hundred years, it just doesn't hold sound anymore. Or in Russia land seized by the Communist regime from the rich being contested for. Also, we have to judge by the law of the land, and if there is such a thing as an expiration to a claim. Otherwise people all over somalia will claim clan lands stolen from them decades ago.

As for Nationalized land, I think no one will take that seriously, otherwise anyone can forge documents, and pay off people to vouche for them owning prior to nationalization.

I really believe that it is going to be pretty simple, and as most governments, ICU, Alshabab, and the current government will do. Anyone who has a legitamate deed will get that house back, and squatters will be evicted. Now will this cause problems yes. Squatters need somewhere to go, and hopefully something will be worked out. A lot of people have just rented out their properties for the time being.
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Re: Your suggestions on how to give/claim back stolen proper

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Perfect_Order wrote:voltage maxaa Alpha ku boodaysa? He said that his father has a home in xamar (given to him as an employee of the government) that is currently occupied, and the squatters are not people who owned that house/land before it was nationalized. He wants to also know if the nationalized land was compensated by the government, to understand if people who previously owned the land before nationalization can still have a legitimate claim to the land. So from my view it was a personal concern of his, that relates to this topic. I don't believe Alpha was even aware of such a thing as people who claim land that was nationalized. Even though this is all theoretical, and we have no clue people claiming land before nationalization.

I think the general case is documents during the time of government proving ownership is given first priority. I don't believe people claiming something as far back as 60's or before will be taken seriously. It's like people in the usa claiming land taken from them through deceptive means by railroad companies a hundred years, it just doesn't hold sound anymore. Or in Russia land seized by the Communist regime from the rich being contested for. Also, we have to judge by the law of the land, and if there is such a thing as an expiration to a claim. Otherwise people all over somalia will claim clan lands stolen from them decades ago.

As for Nationalized land, I think no one will take that seriously, otherwise anyone can forge documents, and pay off people to vouche for them owning prior to nationalization.

I really believe that it is going to be pretty simple, and as most governments, ICU, Alshabab, and the current government will do. Anyone who has a legitamate deed will get that house back, and squatters will be evicted. Now will this cause problems yes. Squatters need somewhere to go, and hopefully something will be worked out. A lot of people have just rented out their properties for the time being.
Actually,the Alpha`s dad theory was a hypothetical scenario established by greenday as an example.
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Alphanumeric wrote:Daf,

"Open your mouth and let me count your teeth"? :lol: Man, I don't know what's wrong with this guy. He's not even saying anything of substance, but accusing me of some phantom crime. If he were to actually address me appropriately, wanting civil dialogue with clear and acceptable substance, I'd be willing. But this dude's on something else, hellbent on creating an atmosphere of animosity. Why? I have no clue.
SMH...you're not fooling anyone. You pretend to be someone you're not and act like u don't understand anything, but I can see right through your little act. I dunno why I've never realized it til right now.
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yungnfresh wrote:
Alphanumeric wrote:Daf,

"Open your mouth and let me count your teeth"? :lol: Man, I don't know what's wrong with this guy. He's not even saying anything of substance, but accusing me of some phantom crime. If he were to actually address me appropriately, wanting civil dialogue with clear and acceptable substance, I'd be willing. But this dude's on something else, hellbent on creating an atmosphere of animosity. Why? I have no clue.
SMH...you're not fooling anyone. You pretend to be someone you're not and act like u don't understand anything, but I can see right through your little act. I dunno why I've never realized it til right now.
Amazing. People comin' out the woodworks, eh? What's your take on me, if you know me so well? G'head, get your jabs in.
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Re: Your suggestions on how to give/claim back stolen proper

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Alphanumeric wrote:
yungnfresh wrote:
Alphanumeric wrote:Daf,

"Open your mouth and let me count your teeth"? :lol: Man, I don't know what's wrong with this guy. He's not even saying anything of substance, but accusing me of some phantom crime. If he were to actually address me appropriately, wanting civil dialogue with clear and acceptable substance, I'd be willing. But this dude's on something else, hellbent on creating an atmosphere of animosity. Why? I have no clue.
SMH...you're not fooling anyone. You pretend to be someone you're not and act like u don't understand anything, but I can see right through your little act. I dunno why I've never realized it til right now.
Amazing. People comin' out the woodworks, eh? What's your take on me, if you know me so well? G'head, get your jabs in.
The way u were able to understand that Somali saying perfectly, and here I was thinking u didn't know Somali cuz u never use it...can't believe u Alpha :lol:
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:lol:

Thought I made an enemy out of you for a second. I can read Somali, just takes me a minute or two to decipher it.


Beans,

I raised it, not green. She simply reversed the roles in her scenario.

PO,

The house was built, not given. My question is about the land beneath it.
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Re: Your suggestions on how to give/claim back stolen proper

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You know me better than that bro, ur good peoples :lol:

How come u never type in Somali tho?! I'm genuinely surprised, I thought u didn't know a lick.
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Re: Your suggestions on how to give/claim back stolen proper

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I have, a couple times. Just takes me a while lol.
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U raised as an example Alpha? Sorry,just saw her reserved scenario.


Yung,u had him good runtii,could have made him sweat a little.
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Beans wrote:U raised as an example Alpha? Sorry,just saw her reserved scenario.
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Alphanumeric wrote:I have, a couple times. Just takes me a while lol.
Let's put it to the test...let me know if u can understand this maahmaah

"Nin nasishiis iyo dhalaal dhaqidiis hor-dhacaad kuma dheeraado"?


Beans, I was going to but I felt bad after seeing his response cuz it seemed like I pissed him off :lol:
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Alpha that land and home are your families. Aint no one going to claim ancestral land in the Capitol of the country.
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Re: Your suggestions on how to give/claim back stolen proper

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Perfect_Order wrote:
Beans wrote:U raised as an example Alpha? Sorry,just saw her reserved scenario.
:P
He did too!

Oh :(



Yung, I know. :lol: Wadno xanuun.

Nasishiis? Is that even a word.
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Re: Your suggestions on how to give/claim back stolen proper

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yungnfresh wrote:
Alphanumeric wrote:I have, a couple times. Just takes me a while lol.
Let's put it to the test...let me know if u can understand this maahmaah

"Nin nasishiis iyo dhalaal dhaqidiis hor-dhacaad kuma dheeraado"?
A man doesn't stray far from the washing of his breast and swimming in the past?

I never understood maahmaahs :lol:
Perfect_Order wrote:Alpha that land and home are your families. Aint no one going to claim ancestral land in the Capitol of the country.
:lol: Alright. That's really all I wanted to know. I don't know what all this fuss is about.
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Re: Your suggestions on how to give/claim back stolen proper

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Alphanumeric wrote:
yungnfresh wrote:
Alphanumeric wrote:I have, a couple times. Just takes me a while lol.
Let's put it to the test...let me know if u can understand this maahmaah

"Nin nasishiis iyo dhalaal dhaqidiis hor-dhacaad kuma dheeraado"?
A man doesn't stray far from the washing of his breast and swimming in the past?

I never understood maahmaahs :lol:
The bad news: that's not what it means.

The good news: it doesn't mean anything cuz I made it up, including some of the words in it :lol: I just wanted to see what absurd abstract meaning could be derived from gibberish, and u didn't disappoint :lol: :up:

Beans :lol:
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