Qabil Lives Matter (War Dadkani Waa Imtixaan)

[Zizzz]

For a moment I thought I had come to a right wing white supremacist site. Lots of people in here sounding like the fear mongers in the west who always claim "the muslims will take over". The bigotry and hypocrisy is too damn high

[LobsterUnit]

10 page thriller Baan idin dhex dhigay.lol.

[RoobleAlWaliid]

Another Bantu related thread .... they never end LMFAO

[TheMightyNomad]

This thread reminds me of this song just change "white" to "Somali"

HAHAHAHA!


Africa for the Africans and Asia for the Asians.. WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYONE!!

But they got a point white people in less than decade will be a minority in their countries. Every scum from every corner of the earth comes to their land.

Say Adios to Europeans soon!

[TheMightyNomad]

Do you really think that they will just leave Somalia and pack their bags to a land they've never known , without the slightest protest ?. "peacefully" deporting thousands of people from a land they have called home for generations will only happen if force is applied and a lot blood is spilled. Farms , businesses and homes are at stake here , a peaceful solution is not a realistic one , and trying to contain them in their own state so they dont spread is akin to what the Nazis did to the Jews in Warsaw and what Israelis are doing to Palestinians , it is unacceptable from a Human and Islamic perspective

It is a huge possibility for them to leave as the incentives are there and as to disprove your assertions tens of thousands already have returned.
Actually they own Zero land and zero businesses if you watched the video and article i posted it is apperant, they have no property or farm land.
So what will the majority of them leave behind when they have nothing to begin with?

[b]Prior to the United States' agreement to accommodate Bantu refugees from Somalia, attempts were made to resettle the refugees to their ancestral homes in southeastern Africa. Before the prospect of emigrating to America was raised, this was actually the preference of the Bantus themselves. In fact, many Bantus voluntarily left the UN camps where they were staying, to seek refuge in Tanzania. Such a return to their ancestral homeland represented the fulfillment of a two-century old dream[/b]

it is indeed ironic that you are imparicly trying to link this preposition to jews of isreal

Ironically you are probably anti Israel for the fact that they are doing that to Muslim Palestinians , yet you are reserving that kind of treatment towards BantuS who are also MUSLIM . can you see the absurdity here

Again, you contradict yourself You are indeed trying to be make it ironic by using an ironic example. The jews are pract example of people who were elocated peacefully elsewhere, since they had no land were persecuted and marginalized in Europe & had no future there. So they were sent back to their homeland and they actually called for it & pushed for it with the help of european communities. Now I would make the argument that unlike the Jews, the bantus will not Steal land or subjugate a different ethnic group as tanzania & mozambique is a bantu country.
At the same time they will only be relocated to land they were taken from

By the late 2000s, the situation in Tanzania had improved, and the Tanzanian government began granting Bantus citizenship and allocating them land in areas of Tanzania where their ancestors are known to have been taken from as slaves

Totally unrelated!!

Not only that everyone has agreed they dont want to force anything yet you keep asserting it and bringing up unrelated examples. Unlike The jews and palestine. The palestinians & some section of the jews are indeed considered indegenous to that land tied their historically culturally & religiously. You trying to tie bridge between bantus a group with zero property land or farms, zero indegenous culturally historical connection to the land a group who came in the late 19century to 20century by foreign forces with the palestinians.

A group who has conflicting political resource,property, historical,cultural & ethnic issue with another segment of the population, Who has zero incentives to actually stay. like the qoute from the article i posted many wish nothing but to return to their ancestral homeland as it is consider a golden dream for them.

Who are you to deny them of that?

I agree with you when it comes to immigrants from other nations , i personally don't want to see Somalis becoming a minority in Somalia , but there's a difference between pre independence Somalia immigrants/captives and post independence ones , i will support the deportation of any non ethnic Somali who migrated to Somalia post 1960 , but if the said persons parents and grand parents lived in Somalia before that time they should have a right to full citizenship.

The the majority of bantus in Somalia have been there since at least the 18th century and were brought to Somalia as captives , they have no real connections to the nations they were abducted from and are pretty much assimilated into Somali culture and see themselves as part of Somalia , to deport them would be nothing short of cruelty. You have got to over look your Somali pride and see them for what they are HUMAN BEINGS like you , not just BANTU. Imagine you being in their position and having to leave a land in which you have so many memories , a land you have a deep connection with ?. Just imagining it would make you sad.

Actually all of this is incorrect and contradictory. First of all you say you dont want somalis to be minority then you try and push this forced integration & assimilation on people. You support non Ethnic post 1960s somalis to be deported ? Wtf you just fulfilled your own definition of ethnic cleansing oh the contradicting hypocrisy.

They never assimilated only tiny minute minority procentage post 1960s did that, since the bantu were marginalized heavily segregated and lived away on isolated somali clan owned farm land.

The many of them speak

These Bantu idioms belong to the separate Niger-Congo family, and include languages like Zigua and Mushunguli.[

They even have most of their cultural customs intact and tribal names. So i dont see what this assumption is based on. They are not African Americans most of them came in the late 19th & early 20th century and a procentage of the exploited the somali situation and migrated in to somali soiled.

They have a massive amount of connections to the nations they been abducted from they are not African Americans. Why do people confuse what happened in america to what happened since as earlier as my great grandfathers time? Amazing!!

Yes they are human beigns with choices and faults. The Sheer Arogance that you assume and never take in account what the majority bantu want and what somali clans whos land & property is at stake think about it.

Bantus have zero deep connections to somalia!! what are you smoking? the majority came in the 20th century. The memory of being taken from your home, discriminated, landless and slavery are you saying these are valuable dignifying memmories? Amazing

What would make me sad is to remain in a and i am foreign to and to remain in a land where im constantly remembered & identified by what i listed above.

I always see you defending Islamic morals passionately , well i think you should put them to practice and show some compassion towards your fellow Muslims and Humans beings , and just let them live peacefully side by side with their fellow countrymen and focus on how we can unite the people of Somalia instead of further dividing them.

Khayr baan kugu duceynaya :up

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This is what i dont understand, all you said was based on asumptions, misinfo and blind unproven accusations.

To say fellow muslims, when 50% to 30 prosent of them are christians or practice athiesm with bantu religious magic,spirt etc worshippers.

So are you trying to isolate and accomodate selective bantus who are muslim and discriminate revoke this false sense of empathy you push when it comes to the non Muslim bantus?

That my brother is outright Discrimination! to the fulllest.

Then also you are very contradictory , since you are against forced deportation , since forced anything is imoral to you & saciidAyanleh but here you are without consilidation of what the bantu majority wants and what somali majority wants, try to push & enact this forced assimilation and integration.

I would call it by your defintion a ethnic cleansing & identity erasure of southern somali clans & total lack or respect for bantu choices & culture.

Very Authoritarian & Self Righteous , since the only thing you displayd is that you frequently use Ad hominems , trigger words & pseudo religiosity.

[TheMightyNomad]

The sheer amazement that these psuedo religious and these social jusctice weasels are the pinacle of Hipocrisy.

You are as forceful authoritarian as the Extremist jews, and islamists you advocate against.

It is the dogma of either you are with me or you are Satans cousin.
The sheer nerve that you want Southern somali clans to not only forcefully without consideration give up their own clan owned farm land and property which they have owned since Ancient times, but also in a very authoritarian way incorporate a seperate group of people.
you say that you are against forced this & that and by forcing this and that. actively use triger words and ad hominems in a very self righteous in a way silence oppossition. In many ways i find the word racism lick much all other terminologies .These are political terms used to stall any form of plural disagreement, creating a third rail. Collapsing racism, oppression, civil rights, bias and homophobia is a tactic to give gravity to a neologism.

All we said was there should be a negotation between two parites when it comes to this issue, so we can find out what best beneficial for both parties.

You come with zero critical thinking only emotions & psuedo relgious bickering , you undermine the bantus intetions & aspirations to return to their homeland and then underming somali clans rights.
All for the sake of this fake contradicting morality.

No one claimed any racial superiorirty or disdain or hatred to bantu!!

Imagine if you and saciidayanleh were allowed to run somalia

it would be just like todays sweden


Listen to here at 2:24

The politicians told us that there is no such thing as a swedish culture. No Swedish tradition worth mentioning. That we swedes should be greateful that soo many people with real culture and real traditions came to us. Marla salyyn the later Prime minister leader of the social democrats said in year 2002 with a magazine eurotalk, she was asked what is swedish culture, she said i often had that question but i cant think of what swedish culture is. Thats what makes us swedes so envious of immigrants. You have a culture and a identity something that ties you together, what do we have? we have mid summers eve and such corny things. She also said that swedes must integrate into the the new sweden, the old sweden is not coming back

This is the kind of level of self hating spewel and disdain for your own you try to enact on others , while hiding behind minority groups, triggers words as a shield from legit criticism.

Sweden is literally what Twitter & Tumblr would be if came to life!

Listen here none of you are moral superiors or seekers of social justice or any of that. Just people with inferiority complex and self hating egocentrics masqueraded as pure hearted empathy & considerate to others. just outright short sided, populistic ,willing to do and say anything to gain their own personal carrier and getting power.

[HannibalBarrcas]

For a moment I thought I had come to a right wing white supremacist site. Lots of people in here sounding like the fear mongers in the west who always claim "the muslims will take over". The bigotry and hypocrisy is too damn high

Lots of people here also sound like social justice workers who grew up in the diaspora, there's no reason for the Bantu to not want to return to their homeland. Somalia isn't a rich country, it isn't a beacon for stability, they've already been given the okay to return back to their native countries so I fail to see why they don't.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Lol You guys are too soft. If it were up to me, I would push bantus out of kenya let alone Somalia. Ancient Somalis and their Rendille cousins have lived in East Africa for millenia. The bantus only arrived in the early middle ages.

[TheMightyNomad]

Yeah? Thank you for that lesson

Is there a reason why you shy away from clear/direct speech?

I Am Canadian.

Don't encourage Kaafiye. SonOfANomad is at least probably a troll, whereas Kaafiye is a rare breed of hatred, arrogance and absolutism.

MY MY! Seems like you are ordering her, very authoritarian i wouldnt expect this from the wordly secular liberal Saint Saciid. All these personal attacks amount to nada, only shows your incompetence & the very fact that you are trumendously bigoted.

Walaal i want to know more about your self righteous journey on this forum. bless me with it some of this #BeingOppressedMatters

[Leftist]

Kaafiye/Mailman

Looky here, youngin. If you proudly admit to being a Islamic Supremacist(your own words, quoting you verbatim), then why are you denying being a racist?

Faraax O'Jaamac alive do you have some serious maskax issues: "I want to say and write racist things that would make the KKK and Neo-Nazis blush, but don't dare call me a racist!!!"

You are a racist. Your words, your posts, your writing all damn you as a bigoted racist. I mean, that's just basic facts. Why do you think people as different as myself, Shaykh Hyper, SaciidAyanleh, Makavelli, Alpharabius all see you as racist-to-the-core? You complain of character assasination as if you're a politician who complains of being called corrupt when he is caught red-handing embezzling public funds. What benefit does anybody gain from "besmirching" your bigoted-racist-takfiri online persona/avatar? No benefit.

The reason people call you takfiri is because you ARE(ie, in fact) a takfiri based on your posts where you make/made takfiir on a number of Somali-netters.

The reason people call you racist is because you ARE(ie, in fact) a racist based on your posts which are drenched in the stench of naked bigotry & racism

So what I'm wondering is: you proudly admit to being a Islamic supremacist and a takfiri, but you deny being a racist? Why? You clearly-hold racist beliefs, so why deny it? is because of political correctness? Is because of embarassment? Are you ashamed of adhering to reactionary beliefs(both religious & race-based) and subscribing to bigotry? Are you embarrassed to be lumped together with the KKK and Neo-Nazis ? Newsflash: You're even more racist than them, as Hyperactive noted earlier in the thread. The KKK never called for the forcible expulsion of AA back to Africa, they, just like you, want to enforce race-segregation, so that black & white don't mix and "miscegenate"; you, however, called(and still call for) the forcible expulsion of Somali-Muslims who have been living in Somalia FOR CENTURIES. That makes you objectively worse than the KKK.

Here's the thing: If you don't want to be called a racist, then stop holding racist beliefs, it's that simple. and if you can't do that, IF racism, just like religious supremacy(fuck that noise), has penetrated your very core and twisted itself in your psyche and consciousness, to the point that you can't see a Bantu without getting a jolt of acid-reflux, well for the love of Jaamac, can you at least refrain from EXPRESSING those deeply-embedded racist beliefs?

"Waah, waaah, stop calling me a racist; I only want to uproot millions of peaceful Somalis who have been living in Somalia for centuries and send them to Congo and Swaziland where Shaka Zulu-ass n99as will meet them and soo-dhaweeyay them. I do not want my children to have a nose that is wider than 1.5 centimeter or hair that is kinky, and because of that, the jareers have got to go; The racial & phenotypal purity of my children is at stake here and I cannot risk having a jareer/adoon in my desceadnants , but I'm not a racist, STOP CALLING ME A RACIST OR I WILL MAKE HABAAR AGAINST YOU"

[Kaafiye]

Leftist

Nice job repeating yourself for several paragraphs. Is this how juvenile your arguments have become lately? Yes, I'm an Islamic supremacist. No I'm not a racist. No I'm not a Takfiri, and I've denied being so on several occasions.

Now I don't want to repeat myself, but if you want to know what my position is, then feel free to read my previous posts. Otherwise, piss off.

[TheblueNwhite]

Some ppl do not know when to take a L.

[iandi]

According to this documentary Somalia owes a major debt of gratitute to the bantus for what small measure of stability exists today. imagine these soldiers from far off lands fighting and dying in this strange place........and for what? Can someone from the somali cultural separatists on this website tell me why these young men from these other armies are fighting and dying for in somalia?

[TheMightyNomad]

According to this documentary Somalia owes a major debt of gratitute to the bantus for what small measure of stability exists today. imagine these soldiers from far off lands fighting and dying in this strange place........and for what? Can someone from the somali cultural separatists on this website tell me why these young men from these other armies are fighting and dying for in somalia?

Those Amisom people, who killed more somalis then alshabab has. OFC the media is going to say that, they own it. They will broadcast soo much propaganda as they want. They have raped countless of somali women and exploited them. But anyways that is besides the point , we are not speaking of Amisom bastards the only job they do is eat donuts and get fat.

Look through the threads on amisom on this site you will find your answer.

There is no seperatists , all we were discussing is the issue between bantus from slavery and somali clans. The Bantus themselves according to major new outlets want to return back to their homeland and no one takes that into consideration. They have zero land ownership, zero property and they have been segregated & marginalized ever since there arrival. So i dont know what is there to seperate.

So now the discussion was about granting the bantus their wish to return to their homeland , since tanzania and mozambique said they will grant them land & property and citenzenship to any returnee. Thousands of people alreadu have taken them up on that. then there is also the huge conflict that may evolve between somali clans and bantus if you force this assimilation & integration. Somali clans dont want to give up there land or intermingle with bantus. They have every right to not do it and the lack of consideration of bantu resettlement back in their homeland is also an issue. Clearly from the report its golden dream of theirs.

its more complex then some racist supremacist agenda you guys try to make it. but hey fuck logic or facts. Bunch of amisom people Raping somali women and killing somalis while they get fat eating donuts have some relevance to this . Its not the somali army that engages takes the most damage its not the somali army that somali army that get paid bread crums but fight with bravery & dignity. Fuck that lets praise bantus from Uganda

[Rambie]

Gosh, this thread is still going.