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madaxweyne aadan cade janadii fardawsa aheeyd allaha siiyee wuxuu ahaa nin MUDULOOD cadde ah.


alla yaa raxma our greatest president ever janaddii allaha siiyo aamiin aamiin

Qabiilada Soomaliyeed markeey siyaasada barteen ayuu bur burey wax la yiraah magaca Somalia.

Siyaasada Somaliya waxaa majaraha u hayay waligeed reer Hiiraanka sida:

Labada nin ee u tartamayey madaxweynenimada Somaliya sanadkii 1960 waxeey kala ahaayeen:

Aadan Abdulle Osman (Lawyer @ Belet Wein, Hiiraan before he won the election) Ujeejeen, Mudulood
Sh. Ali Jimcaale (Lawyer @ Belet Wein, Hiiraan before he lost to Adan Cadde ) Xawaadle, Mayle Samaale

Sh. Ali Jimaale lost to Adan Cade thanks to Ceyr Parlment member (Abdulahi Maajoor )who gave his vote to Adan Cade after Majeerteen paid him some money.
Eventhough Adan Cade was from Hiiraan Hawiye his gov. was all Majeerteen.

And Abdulaahi Maajoor said late 1960th ( Anigaa Hawiye lugooyey) Saa nin Shaati Hawiye gashan balse Daarood u adeegaan codkeeygii siiyey.

Cabdulaahi Ciise was from Mudug Gaalkacyo, and Majeerteen and Mariixaan (Galgaduud) didn't gave him any seat to any HABARGIDIR and was brought to Hiiraan by late Sh. Ali Jimcaale and was given a seat that belongs to GAALOOS member
and was send to Mogadishu to become Prime minster.

None of those Hiiranians have done any goods to their birth /political place, they were Good Somali Politicians.

ILAHAY HA U NAXARIISTO MARXUUMKA.

''Saa nin Shaati Hawiye gashan balse Daarood u adeegaan codkeeygii siiyey''

Do not spread lies about the marxuum.

Hawiye had the majority of ministers

http://www.jiimonet.com/march07/dhismag ... ch2607.htm

Majerteen only hijacked the parlament and since the PM was the executive and the President only nominal there was nothing Adden Cadde could do to prevent this state abuse by Majerteen.

Also, the man was the only Somali man who did not had loyalty to a particular clan. Since he was an orphan at a young age he was brought up and educated by Italians, and because of this background he had more loyalty to the state than his clan. Ofcourse, this is an intellectual failure which many Hawiye statemen committed.

In pastoral society, clan is everything, as the Majerteen and consequently Mareexan understood. Why else would they misuse and abuse the state apparatus and turn the whole qaran into a vehicle to enhance their own interest instead of the General Interest of Somalis.

Hawiye people have always put National matters before Hawiye matters, Adden Cadde was no different then marxuum Cabdullahi Ciise.

Young Hawiyes need to learn from the ones before them. National Matters are ofcourse of paramount importance but Hawiye matters should not be neglected. Since history has proven that the state can be hijacked by particular clans we should make sure that Hawiye matters are solved first so that we can direct all focus on National Matters and safeguard the Somali state apparatus from predatory clans.

[quote="Somaliweyn"]''Saa nin Shaati Hawiye gashan balse Daarood u adeegaan codkeeygii siiyey''

Do not spread lies about the marxuum.

Hawiye had the majority of ministers

http://www.jiimonet.com/march07/dhismag ... ch2607.htm
[/quote]


Hawiye had majority of ministers? Darod ALWAYS had more

Darod had 5:
Cabdi/shid Cali Sharmarke -Ra’iisul wasaare ( Majeerteen)
Cali Garad Jamac -Wasirka Tacliinta (Dhulbahante)
Sheikh Cabdule Maxamud -Warshadaha & Ganacsiga (Mareexaan)
Cabdi/saaq Xaaji Xusseen -Wasirka A/Gudaha (Majeerteen)
Cusman Maxamed Ibrahim- -Wasirka A/Gudaha (Ogaadeen)

Hawiye had 3 ministers:
Cabdullahi Ciise Maxamed -Wasirka A/Dibadda (Habar Gidir)
Cali Maxamed Hiraabe -Wasiirka Warfaafinta (Abgaal)
Maxamud Axmed Maxamed -Wasiirka Caddaladda (Abgaal)

^^War sidan si isu dhaan qalbadda all ku fooraiye. . Qurun uyo qabiil baad habeenkii ku seexataa subixiina ku soo toostaa, Alla maxaan kaa yaabay!!.

I thought the late pres was badicade?

Go read the cabinetlist on the website..

You are talking about when marxuum Shermaarke became president and Adden Cadde stepped down. Then Daarod had 5 and Hawiye had 3, before that it was always Hawiye had the majority of ministers.

[quote="Somaliweyn"]Go read the cabinetlist on the website..

You are talking about when marxuum Shermaarke became president and Adden Cadde stepped down. Then Daarod had 5 and Hawiye had 3, before that it was always Hawiye had the majority of ministers.[/quote]


really??? i knew you would say such thing, so i actually used the minister composition while aden cade was president, the FIRST one in 1960,

CHECK MATE

You are poor at chess man. And you need to update your reading skills too


July 22/1960

Both President and PM aside,

you get 4 Hawiye ministers:

-Abdullahi Ciise Maxamud
Wasiirka A/Dibadda

-Sheikh Cali Jimcale
Cafimaadka & Shaqada

-Cali Maxamed Hirawe
Wasiirka Warfaafinta

-Mohamud Axmed Maxamed
Wasiirka Caddaaladda

You forgot the great Sheikh Cali Jimcale in your counting.

[quote="Somaliweyn"]You are poor at chess man. And you need to update your reading skills too


July 22/1960

Both President and PM aside,

you get 4 Hawiye ministers:

-Abdullahi Ciise Maxamud
Wasiirka A/Dibadda

-Sheikh Cali Jimcale
Cafimaadka & Shaqada

-Cali Maxamed Hirawe
Wasiirka Warfaafinta

-Mohamud Axmed Maxamed
Wasiirka Caddaaladda

You forgot the great Sheikh Cali Jimcale in your counting.[/quote]


cali jimcaale is XAWAADLE, that aint hawiye..you can't bring me the bullshit you tell others, you might as well add JAREERWEYN to hawiye then since caydiid gave them "kamasle hawiye" title. xawaadle is like garre and others, hawiye maaha...if you will tell me there is no clear structure of hawiye then we will start a debate here and now but you can't sell me xawaadle is hawiye because he is a cousin "mayle samaale" of hawiye...so????? why isn't duduble considered habar gidir then since he is a cousin of madarkicis??????

even if you add xawaadle, darood had more then you still but as things stand:


Darood had 5 (FIVE)

Hawiye proper had 3 (THREE)

I love the way Darod people make themselve wise that Hawadle, Gaaljecel, Sheikhaal etc are not Hawiye while these subclans consider themselves as Hawiye

Hawadle has proven where their loyalty lies during 1991 civil war. They played an instrumental role during the roll back of the Faqash regime.

DS,

How much of those 5 Darood were MJ?

[quote="zackabdul"]DS,

How much of those 5 Darood were MJ?[/quote]


Cabdi/shid Cali Sharmarke -Ra’iisul wasaare ( Majeerteen)
Cali Garad Jamac -Wasirka Tacliinta (Dhulbahante)
Sheikh Cabdule Maxamud -Warshadaha & Ganacsiga (Mareexaan)
Cabdi/saaq Xaaji Xusseen -Wasirka A/Gudaha (Majeerteen)
Cusman Maxamed Ibrahim- -Wasirka Arimaha Soomaalida (Saddaxda maqan) (Ogaadeen)

DS,

Do Hawiye have abtiris? I'm too shy to ask my grandmother whose sleeping in the next room... I don't like to talk about qabil with her...

first goverment madaxweyne alla yaa raxma aadan cade

hawiye 4 wasiir
wasiirka arimaha dibada
abdulahi ciise alla yaa raxma
wasiirka warfaafinta cali hiraabe
wasiirka caafimaadka
sheekh cali jimcaale
wasiirka cadaalada
maxamuud axmed maxamed


wasiirada 4 darood

Cali Garad Jamac
Wasirka Tacliinta

Sheikh Cabdule Maxamud
Warshadaha & Ganacsiga

Cabdi/saaq Xaaji Xusseen
Wasirka A/Gudaha

Cusman Maxamed Ibrahim
Wasirka Arimaha Soomaalida (Saddaxda maqan) NFD. Jabuti Ogadenya

waa 4 and 4 wax ay darood badsadeen ma jirin markaa raiiisal wasaaraha haku xisaabin isaga maaha wasiir.