Mudulood and Sacad protest in support of massacre!!!

[Somali_4Life]

[quote="Gedo_Boy"]Are they Khawaarij too ?

When you can learn the basic foundations of your deen come back to me.[/quote]

If i said they were khawarij then i dont know my deen. They are not khawarij or munafiqeen,but pro-atheism/communism/satanism/secularism. Glorifying their leader is part of their culture.

[Luq_Ganane]

The only Hawiye in this thread that I'll give credit to who was anti Xabashi BEFORE the invasion and subsequent xasuuq is Somaliweyn. However all these other characters supported guys like Mohamed Dhere, Qeybadid etc. because they were from their clans. Not until those guys started MASSACRING and putting their own relatives through a holocost and human catastophrie that the UN says now has surpassed Darfur, did they say 'We distanced ourselves from the traitors'. I mean no friggin shid. If Barre did to Marexaan what the Hawiye warloards did to their own kin, I would be here every day cursing the 'evil Marexaan traitor'. However he is not, so I didn't take an Anti Hiiraale stance after his services to Marexaan people. At least I'm honest. Even Somaliweyn if he's an honest fellow will admit that plenty of Hawiye especially HG jumped on the 'Anti Eitho' bandwagon, after the systeamatic ethnic cleansing that started in April. Games don't fly with me.


Also how ironic that Barre as a Daarood, has more principle and class with regards to Hawiye then do Hawiye themselves? Theres hundreds of aspiring Hawiye warloards that are lining up to be the next Mohamed Dhere, Qeybadid etc. just at the wave of a finger by Abdullahi Yusuf. Pathetic

[smooth]

Gedo boy

The ilkayars outnumber any other subclan in this form, why is that you can't find a single person from your kinfolk that has the courage to distance themselfs from huurale? is it blasphemous to speak against the god-father ?

[Gedo_Boy]

When there is a clear reason to distance myself I will. If he collaborated w/ the now-defunct ARPCT like Qeybdiid and others then I would have distanced myself and I would have lost confidence in him.

Just like the ARPCT initiated hostility against the ICU, it was their fault and they bore the consequences for their actions.

The ICU was manipulated in initiating hostility against Hiiraale so it is the fault of the ICU and their mistake.

As for now, he is not even assisting the TFG in what they are doing in Xamar and has purposely refused to take part in that action even though it isn't even his region.

Do you know until now NOT even 1 member of the ICU has had something bad to say against Hiiraale?

And if he is so evil then why was the TFG even trying to kill him? Does that make sense?

So most of the people that want to personally attack him are doing so for hidden clan reasons and I can't respect that nor will I allow someone with those motives to try and sway my judgement.

[Somali_4Life]

He is using the ''if word'' like if barre hiraale was a prophet or divine person.

[Gedo_Boy]

No I say *if* because he never did it

i.e. he had more principle than to kidnap wadaads in Xamar and sell them in Djibouti

[Af_libaax]

Sadboi & Luq_Ganane

The irony here is since the name ilkoyar was bestowed to besha Sade their thoughts and fairness place in somali society has shrinked into clear practice of deceit , isn't few weeks ago Maslah Siyad & Abduqadir Masalah went Addis Abba to negotiate MaleZa about JuPPooyiN , Dear MaleZa Siyad barre supported your TPLF Now its your turn to support Marehan to occupy Juppooyin ! isn't that a petty malice against what your country is going through ?

Somalis are aware there are good decent Marehans who more patriot than any other somalis , but also those who are pretending Who LaLa and hidding behind the curtain will be same as Qayrdiid & Huraale !

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[sadeboi]

Its not surprising that such men as aflibaax and smooth try to criticize me,barre hiiraale, and beesha SADE while ignoring the post and what its about; the support of the massacre that is happening in Muqdishu by some Muqdisho residents. At least Somaliweyn addresses the post and clearly states that they don't really represent the over all clan view of the massacre that is happening in Muqdisho.

As for Barre, he fought with a standing ciidan, he fought in iidaale and diinsoor against the army of the ICU, and every SADE has made it clear that we supported him in that war against the ICU who attacked him. Unlike qeybdiid and co. who got money from the cia and attacked the wadaads and shiekhs in Muqdisho, and unlike qeybdiid and co. he refused to be a part of the massacre that is going in Muqdisho and said he has no business in going there and fighting in a civilian populated area, AND THAT WAS WHY HE LOST HIS MINSTER OF DEFENSE POSITION. And just like SH. SHARIF went to the AMERRICAN EMBASSY Barre went to Ethiopia to have talks. If you show us a veido or document showing Barre promising melez to support his cause in massacring Somali civilians we will disown him until then, keep Barre name out your filthy mouth.


Tan kale, its not in Kismayo, Baardheere, or Cabudwaaq that this demo is going on.


Somali4life everyone knows your not habergider so need to answer to such a incompetent.

[Luq_Ganane]

^^

Af Libax,

Marexaan had Kismayo since 1992 when SNF captured it, then we replaced the SNF leader Morgan after he acted up and Barre came in '99. Then Marexaan Itixaad who renamed themselves ICU allied with Sh Turki, that included the current leader of Kismayo right now, Abdirazak Taano and the ICU Marexaan leader Bashir Jalato came. After the Tigray spoon fed Majerten Kismayo under Afgudud, we just stayed patient, and waited till the Tigray left, and when they did we kicked Afgudud and his coalition out of the city in a pair of 5 minute battles a couple of months apart. You can chose to beleive what you want to believe, or acknowledge the facts. The Marexaan/Barre agreement with Tigray is built on Non-Agression as we have identified them as the ONLY threat to our interests in Somalia. The day Marexaan use Tigray soldiers the way other groups are to fight OTHER Somalis, then I will draw the line right there. Anyway all this is mute, as while I know how destructive the Hawiye warloardism was to Somalia, and how it weakened it to the point of the occupation being possible, I'm still mature and man enough to admit that what is going on in Mogadishu is a SOMALI not Hawiye problem, and is a big determiner of Somalias future.

[AbdiWahab252]

I wonder if Mr. Hiiraale knows that he has a strong following on SomaliNet

This Hawiye vs. Marexan squabbles need to end because it only exists in the CYBERWORLD.

I have yet to see it in real life and I am an expert in Fahdi ku diirir.

[Luq_Ganane]

^^

A/wahab,

Somalinet is home to just kids who learned qabil, politics and that stuff on this very site. What do you expect?

[AbdiWahab252]

Luq,

I love how they believe that there is strong unity, love and support for each other inside different qabiils. They speak in certain terms as if they were articulating the policy of their qabils with certainty.

Alas, better qabiil bashing instead of joining Beelaha Crips iyo Blood

[sadeboi]

A/wahab we have no problems with Hawiye, lakiin we can't just sit comfortably behind our screens while people criticize Barre for no reason and compare him to men who are at the forefront of the massacre that is happening in Muqdisho.

They could have just said, hey we don't support them and we don't support anyone who is a part of such a thing so don't generalize sacad and mudulood like somaliweyn did, but no they had to speak of Barre and "ilkoyar" as if it pertained to the subject matter.

[AbdiWahab252]

SadeBoi,

That being said, why did u post the this topic with this headline:

Mudulood and Sacad protest in support of massacre!!!


Barre Hiiraale to me is not my enemy nor are Marexan in general. I just go off on them sometimes to get back at some Marexan posters who do the same.

In real life, I don't have any qualms with them.

[Luq_Ganane]

^^

A/Wahab,

Any logical Hawiye should have nothing but respect for Marexaan. Infact that ist he case whether it is in Somalia, here or anywhere else. Even in today's politics, Marexaan if they wanted to, could have gotten in on the bloobath in Xamar, but are not involved at all. There are ZERO Marexaan in the TFG militias in Xamar, while theres plenty of Marexaan Shabab and others. Barre himself, right after the Diinsoor/Idaale battles just walked away and said I'm done. He was a bitter man who felt BETRAYED because guys like Dahir Awies, Sh Turki etc. took a hostile stance after he did so much for them. The Isbahaysi to "fight terrorism". Barre never joined, and refused several times to hand over Sh Turki while he was holed up in Ras Kamboni. This stupid idiot Af Doqon, is comparing Qeybadid a man who handed in hiw OWN wadaado to a man like Barre who wouldn't hand wadaado from other qabils let alone his own. Then you have a guy like Somaliweyn who compares Barre to Muuse Suudi, Mohamed Dhere etc. Complete nonsense.

Anyway as I said earlier, whether in Somalia and other places the Marexaan/Hawiye beef was long done with. It ended in the early '90s, and Hawiye didn't even have any issues with Marexaan other then the fact that they wanted their 'city back'. They got it, there was a war, and it ended. MR and HG are still living side by side in Galgudud so don't think theres a beef, but you just have some cuqdad filled kids on Somalinet, who are still green behind the ears in politics.